Times Hgher Education Top 50 Universities in the World

Anonymous
Thank you for making my point. Neither is a top 50 nationally nor globally. Full stop.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Let me correct your lists:
Anonymous wrote:Here are other rankings:

QS Top Universities

1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
2 Stanford University
3 Harvard University
4 California Institute of Technology (Caltech)
5 University of Oxford
6 ETH Zurich - Swiss Federal Institute of Technology
7 University of Cambridge
8 Imperial College London
9 University of Chicago
10 UCL
152 University of Maryland
247 University of Virginia


Academic Ranking of World Universities

1 Harvard University
2 Stanford University
3 University of Cambridge
4 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
5 University of California, Berkeley
6 Princeton University
7 Columbia University
8 California Institute of Technology (Caltech)
9 University of Oxford
10 University of Chicago
53 University of Maryland
151-200 University of Virginia


USNWR

1 Harvard University
2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
3 Stanford University
4 University of California, Berkeley
5 University of Oxford
6 California Institute of Technology (Caltech)
7 Columbia
8 Princeton
9 University of Cambridge
10 University of Washington
51 University of Maryland
107 University of Virginia



What is the criteria? Why would UC Berkeley and UW rank so high, and UVA so low? That seems odd.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let me correct your lists:
Anonymous wrote:Here are other rankings:

QS Top Universities

1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
2 Stanford University
3 Harvard University
4 California Institute of Technology (Caltech)
5 University of Oxford
6 ETH Zurich - Swiss Federal Institute of Technology
7 University of Cambridge
8 Imperial College London
9 University of Chicago
10 UCL
152 University of Maryland
247 University of Virginia


Academic Ranking of World Universities

1 Harvard University
2 Stanford University
3 University of Cambridge
4 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
5 University of California, Berkeley
6 Princeton University
7 Columbia University
8 California Institute of Technology (Caltech)
9 University of Oxford
10 University of Chicago
53 University of Maryland
151-200 University of Virginia


USNWR

1 Harvard University
2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
3 Stanford University
4 University of California, Berkeley
5 University of Oxford
6 California Institute of Technology (Caltech)
7 Columbia
8 Princeton
9 University of Cambridge
10 University of Washington
51 University of Maryland
107 University of Virginia



What is the criteria? Why would UC Berkeley and UW rank so high, and UVA so low? That seems odd.


Because no one cares about uva outside of va.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let me correct your lists:
Anonymous wrote:Here are other rankings:

QS Top Universities

1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
2 Stanford University
3 Harvard University
4 California Institute of Technology (Caltech)
5 University of Oxford
6 ETH Zurich - Swiss Federal Institute of Technology
7 University of Cambridge
8 Imperial College London
9 University of Chicago
10 UCL
152 University of Maryland
247 University of Virginia


Academic Ranking of World Universities

1 Harvard University
2 Stanford University
3 University of Cambridge
4 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
5 University of California, Berkeley
6 Princeton University
7 Columbia University
8 California Institute of Technology (Caltech)
9 University of Oxford
10 University of Chicago
53 University of Maryland
151-200 University of Virginia


USNWR

1 Harvard University
2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
3 Stanford University
4 University of California, Berkeley
5 University of Oxford
6 California Institute of Technology (Caltech)
7 Columbia
8 Princeton
9 University of Cambridge
10 University of Washington
51 University of Maryland
107 University of Virginia



No one cares about UVA outside of Virginia.


Guess the 29,000 out-of-state applicants to UVA this year didn't get your memo.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let me correct your lists:
Anonymous wrote:Here are other rankings:

QS Top Universities

1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
2 Stanford University
3 Harvard University
4 California Institute of Technology (Caltech)
5 University of Oxford
6 ETH Zurich - Swiss Federal Institute of Technology
7 University of Cambridge
8 Imperial College London
9 University of Chicago
10 UCL
152 University of Maryland
247 University of Virginia


Academic Ranking of World Universities

1 Harvard University
2 Stanford University
3 University of Cambridge
4 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
5 University of California, Berkeley
6 Princeton University
7 Columbia University
8 California Institute of Technology (Caltech)
9 University of Oxford
10 University of Chicago
53 University of Maryland
151-200 University of Virginia


USNWR

1 Harvard University
2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
3 Stanford University
4 University of California, Berkeley
5 University of Oxford
6 California Institute of Technology (Caltech)
7 Columbia
8 Princeton
9 University of Cambridge
10 University of Washington
51 University of Maryland
107 University of Virginia



What is the criteria? Why would UC Berkeley and UW rank so high, and UVA so low? That seems odd.


Gee I don’t know.....maybe because they are objectively better colleges?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Thank you for making my point. Neither is a top 50 nationally nor globally. Full stop.


"Full stop." Very British. I am guessing you are the person who didn't like it when Oxford was questioned as #1 on the list.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you for making my point. Neither is a top 50 nationally nor globally. Full stop.


"Full stop." Very British. I am guessing you are the person who didn't like it when Oxford was questioned as #1 on the list.


Ha ha. I am not the full stop poster but I was the quibble poster. The person who was eye rolling on THE naming Oxford as number one annoyed me because it’s not like the other rankings were so different. I’m American as apple pie and have no affiliation with Oxford.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you for making my point. Neither is a top 50 nationally nor globally. Full stop.


"Full stop." Very British. I am guessing you are the person who didn't like it when Oxford was questioned as #1 on the list.


Ha ha. I am not the full stop poster but I was the quibble poster. The person who was eye rolling on THE naming Oxford as number one annoyed me because it’s not like the other rankings were so different. I’m American as apple pie and have no affiliation with Oxford.


The others rankings all have Oxford behind Harvard, MIT, and Stanford. I think that is closer to the current consensus in academia if you are looking at quality of faculty, research, and influence.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you for making my point. Neither is a top 50 nationally nor globally. Full stop.


"Full stop." Very British. I am guessing you are the person who didn't like it when Oxford was questioned as #1 on the list.


Ha ha. I am not the full stop poster but I was the quibble poster. The person who was eye rolling on THE naming Oxford as number one annoyed me because it’s not like the other rankings were so different. I’m American as apple pie and have no affiliation with Oxford.


The others rankings all have Oxford behind Harvard, MIT, and Stanford. I think that is closer to the current consensus in academia if you are looking at quality of faculty, research, and influence.


Oh Jesus give it a rest.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you for making my point. Neither is a top 50 nationally nor globally. Full stop.


"Full stop." Very British. I am guessing you are the person who didn't like it when Oxford was questioned as #1 on the list.


Ha ha. I am not the full stop poster but I was the quibble poster. The person who was eye rolling on THE naming Oxford as number one annoyed me because it’s not like the other rankings were so different. I’m American as apple pie and have no affiliation with Oxford.


The others rankings all have Oxford behind Harvard, MIT, and Stanford. I think that is closer to the current consensus in academia if you are looking at quality of faculty, research, and influence.


Oh Jesus give it a rest.


No.
Anonymous
Then be smarter.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:And another approach:

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020college-guide

Welcome to the Washington Monthly’s annual College Guide and Rankings, where we rate schools based on what they do for the country. It’s our answer to U.S. News & World Report, which relies on crude and easily manipulated measures of wealth, exclusivity, and prestige.

We rank four-year schools (national universities, liberal arts colleges, baccalaureate colleges, and master’s universities) based on their contribution to the public good in three broad categories: social mobility, research, and providing opportunities for public service. We also rank Best Bang for the Buck colleges, which help non-wealthy students obtain marketable degrees at affordable prices.


Wish they made the lists sortable!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let me correct your lists:
Anonymous wrote:Here are other rankings:

QS Top Universities

1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
2 Stanford University
3 Harvard University
4 California Institute of Technology (Caltech)
5 University of Oxford
6 ETH Zurich - Swiss Federal Institute of Technology
7 University of Cambridge
8 Imperial College London
9 University of Chicago
10 UCL
152 University of Maryland
247 University of Virginia


Academic Ranking of World Universities

1 Harvard University
2 Stanford University
3 University of Cambridge
4 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
5 University of California, Berkeley
6 Princeton University
7 Columbia University
8 California Institute of Technology (Caltech)
9 University of Oxford
10 University of Chicago
53 University of Maryland
151-200 University of Virginia


USNWR

1 Harvard University
2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
3 Stanford University
4 University of California, Berkeley
5 University of Oxford
6 California Institute of Technology (Caltech)
7 Columbia
8 Princeton
9 University of Cambridge
10 University of Washington
51 University of Maryland
107 University of Virginia



What is the criteria? Why would UC Berkeley and UW rank so high, and UVA so low? That seems odd.


There is usually a significant component of these rankings that is based on the volume, quality, and influence of research and publications coming from these universities. UVA isn't as strong across the board as a school like Berkeley. This isn't really relevant to the quality of undergraduate education in my opinion.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let me correct your lists:
Anonymous wrote:Here are other rankings:

QS Top Universities

1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
2 Stanford University
3 Harvard University
4 California Institute of Technology (Caltech)
5 University of Oxford
6 ETH Zurich - Swiss Federal Institute of Technology
7 University of Cambridge
8 Imperial College London
9 University of Chicago
10 UCL
152 University of Maryland
247 University of Virginia


Academic Ranking of World Universities

1 Harvard University
2 Stanford University
3 University of Cambridge
4 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
5 University of California, Berkeley
6 Princeton University
7 Columbia University
8 California Institute of Technology (Caltech)
9 University of Oxford
10 University of Chicago
53 University of Maryland
151-200 University of Virginia


USNWR

1 Harvard University
2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
3 Stanford University
4 University of California, Berkeley
5 University of Oxford
6 California Institute of Technology (Caltech)
7 Columbia
8 Princeton
9 University of Cambridge
10 University of Washington
51 University of Maryland
107 University of Virginia



What is the criteria? Why would UC Berkeley and UW rank so high, and UVA so low? That seems odd.


There is usually a significant component of these rankings that is based on the volume, quality, and influence of research and publications coming from these universities. UVA isn't as strong across the board as a school like Berkeley. This isn't really relevant to the quality of undergraduate education in my opinion.


Poor job at research does not mean great job at teaching undergraduate students just like bad job at research doesn't necessarily mean great job at teaching undergraduate students. Lot of research means more opportunities for undergrad to gain research experience and having professors with great reputations such as Nobel laureates. For example, Berkeley I think has the most number of Nobel laureates of all the universities which is impressive for a state university.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let me correct your lists:
Anonymous wrote:Here are other rankings:

QS Top Universities

1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
2 Stanford University
3 Harvard University
4 California Institute of Technology (Caltech)
5 University of Oxford
6 ETH Zurich - Swiss Federal Institute of Technology
7 University of Cambridge
8 Imperial College London
9 University of Chicago
10 UCL
152 University of Maryland
247 University of Virginia


Academic Ranking of World Universities

1 Harvard University
2 Stanford University
3 University of Cambridge
4 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
5 University of California, Berkeley
6 Princeton University
7 Columbia University
8 California Institute of Technology (Caltech)
9 University of Oxford
10 University of Chicago
53 University of Maryland
151-200 University of Virginia


USNWR

1 Harvard University
2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
3 Stanford University
4 University of California, Berkeley
5 University of Oxford
6 California Institute of Technology (Caltech)
7 Columbia
8 Princeton
9 University of Cambridge
10 University of Washington
51 University of Maryland
107 University of Virginia



What is the criteria? Why would UC Berkeley and UW rank so high, and UVA so low? That seems odd.


There is usually a significant component of these rankings that is based on the volume, quality, and influence of research and publications coming from these universities. UVA isn't as strong across the board as a school like Berkeley. This isn't really relevant to the quality of undergraduate education in my opinion.


Poor job at research does not mean great job at teaching undergraduate students just like bad job at research doesn't necessarily mean great job at teaching undergraduate students. Lot of research means more opportunities for undergrad to gain research experience and having professors with great reputations such as Nobel laureates. For example, Berkeley I think has the most number of Nobel laureates of all the universities which is impressive for a state university.


If you look at Berkeley undergraduate ratings of teachers on websites like Niche, they don't seem relatively satisfied. Having a Nobel laureate you either don't see or only see in a huge lecture hall doesn't cut it.
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