Most Overrated High School Cluster
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Anonymous
or you could look at something objective like test scores, but those are racist now |
Anonymous
Rockville HS has an IB program. The likely-soon-to-be-former Magruder HS does not, and neither does Quince Orchard HS. |
Anonymous
These are the W's which are synonymous with segregation. They have almost <5% (read 0) Hispanic or black students. They have no FARMs students even though the county is 35% FARMS. Their boundaries are gerrymandered to achieve this end. They claim they're the good schools, but reality is the test score by demographic group >5% is about the same as every other MCPS school. This is why they're overrated. |
Anonymous
Agree 100%. |
Anonymous
What’s wrong with the PP’s comment? If an area (County) is all White, then it’s schools are all White. MoCo is a demographically diverse county, but the demographic ratio at the W schools does not reflect the demographic ratio of the county. So the PP has a good point. The reason why MCPS is doing the boundary study is to address these mostly White W schools (ie segregation). |
Anonymous
Perhaps, but many schools exclude a large percentage of low SES groups by gerrymandering their boundaries. The county has a huge Hispanic population but W's, for example, have almost no Hispanic students. This is by design and needs to be addressed. |
Anonymous
Open neighborhood schools are not segregation. While there are racist origins to some of the alignments they are now open to all if they can afford them. The wealth gap is the current primary reason and MCPS aren't going to fix that over night. Pragmatically there isn't many good options without breaking down the neighborhood concept which most people in the county disprove doing. Even if they did make it break down the neighborhood alignment concept like San Fran did, Rich people will redefine what is desirable and push poor people out what ever floats to the top of the pile. The problem is the power dynamic that people with money have options and poor people have to take what they are given. And when something is desirable poor people don't have anyway to hold on to it except complain to the people who are in charge...who are often rich themselves. Notice how the former poor part of Silver Spring that was attached to BCC is now the most expensive part of silver spring and almost none of the historical black community is left. The board knows this and while there will be some teeth added by the boundary study, I would bet large sums of money that the Ws wont turn into the DCC after it. |
Anonymous
PP says that as though there were no relationship between "if they can afford them" and racism, and no relationship between the housing types in the "neighborhood concept" and racism. Something for the neighborhood-defenders to think about - Donald Trump is on your side: "The Suburban Housewives of America must read this article. Biden will destroy your neighborhood and your American Dream. I will preserve it, and make it even better!" "I am happy to inform all of the people living their Suburban Lifestyle Dream that you will no longer be bothered or financially hurt by having low income housing built in your neighborhood..." |
Anonymous
You’re not answering my question. You are just focusing on segregation. Either way, W schools are predominantly White which does not reflect the demographic ratio of MoCo. Would love to see a BLM sign at these W schools. |
Anonymous
I agreed with you, Neighborhood schools don't reflect the county, they reflect the neighborhood. Almost none to none of the schools match the aggregated county statistics. That doesn't mean they are bad it just means that people cluster for a host of reasons with only a few of them being bad. Yes the real money is on the west half of the county and yes most of those people want very little to do with unwashed masses (tongue in cheek). I am not sure how you expect the school system to fix that. My point is while a feel good win for some would be to force poor kids into those schools via long bus rides and what not might seem like a win. I am not sure it is a sustainable solution that wont correct it's self in short order or have secondary effects like gentrifying currently affordable close in areas that get designated W aligned as middle class parents flock to them as the consortium as the FARM and ESOL rates continue to rise in the eastern county. |
Anonymous
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I agreed with you, Neighborhood schools don't reflect the county, they reflect the neighborhood. Almost none to none of the schools county wide match the aggregated county statistics. That doesn't mean they are bad it just means that people cluster for a host of reasons with only a few of them being bad. Yes the real money is on the west half of the county and yes most of those people want very little to do with unwashed masses (tongue in cheek). I am not sure how you expect the school system to fix that. My point is while a feel good win for some would be to force poor kids into these schools via long bus rides and what not and it might seem like a win. I am not sure it is a sustainable solution that wont correct it's self in short order or have secondary effects like gentrifying currently affordable close in areas that get designated W aligned. When middle class parents flock to them as the consortium have their FARM and ESOL rates continue to rise in the eastern county, it isn't the rich people pushing the poor people to the side, it is the middle class hogging the life boats.
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Anonymous
I would argue that education at the W's is already the same as any DCC school judging from the test averages by racial cohort. The difference is they have fewer low-icome students which boosts their overall test average. The argument that these are neighborhood schools is also false since the boundaries aren't compact and appear gerrymandered. The real issue for me is the lack of diversity. I feel this fosters the many racial incidents posted about here. This is why we need to desegregate these schools. |
Anonymous
I don't have much patience with the idea that there are only two options (1) continue the current boundaries that maintain segregated schools, OR (2) "force poor kids via long bus rides and whatnot" The current boundaries were not handed down from Mt. Sinai engraved on stone tablets. In some cases, boundary changes would increase geographic proximity AND decrease segregation. |
Anonymous
The rich has the time, money and political connections to influence how school boundaries are drawn. When Bayard Rustin Elementary school was about to open and MCPS was deciding on what area/neighborhood should be part of this school. Residents from Fallsgrove came out in masses to protest to keep their kids at Ritchie Park ES instead of moving to a lower FARM school. Keep in mind that Fallsgrove community is co prized of $1+ M single homes. Guess where those kids ended up going to school at? |
Anonymous
They are not all predominantly white. Why do you keep ignoring the statistics? |