Who listens to Ben Shapiro?

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Anonymous wrote:He's been caught rigging Facebook's clicking and sharing to seem exponentially more popular than he really is. Safe bet he does the same on iTunes.

Is this like getting R organizations to buy a ton of books to get them on the NYT Best Seller list... even though they hate the NYT?

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I don't want to start a new thread but what are your guys opinions on Rising (by the hill)? It stars Krystal Ball (former msnbc host) and Saagar Enjeti (conservative think-tank guy)

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Anonymous wrote:In the ongoing attempt to keep my kids from turning into loony-tune leftists at the hands of their "education," I find people like Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh and Dennis Prager to be very helpful. They know how to present material to appeal to teens and are smart enough to shut down any liberal/ leftist position.

Wow, are there books in your world?

+1 Parenting fail.

Well, since you guys brought up books... Ben just published a new one:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48929883-how-to-destroy-america-in-three-easy-steps

"Traditional areas of civic agreement are vanishing. We can’t agree on what makes America special. We can’t even agree that America is special. We’re coming to the point that we can’t even agree what the word America itself means. “Disintegrationists” say we’re stronger together, but their assault on America’s history, philosophy, and culture will only tear us apart."

Here's a traditional area of civic agreement: doing your part to stop spreading germs.

There is more than one way to do that, along with side effects of actions that must be considered. You are illustrating Ben's point that just because we don't agree on "the how", your take is that those that don't agree with you simply do not want to stop the spread of germs.

Is there a secret right wing alternative to stopping the spread of coronavirus that is being assiduously practiced behind my back? I don't think so. People are choosing to ignore the recognized methods.

Ben's point is specifically that we can't agree on what makes America special or if it is special at all. It's right there in black and white. Its absurd to think that your children benefit from somebody convincing them of this. Instead, they should be reading history and making their own judgments about it. You want them to be indoctrinated into conservatism, instead of forming their own opinions based on a solid knowledge of our history.

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Anonymous wrote:In the ongoing attempt to keep my kids from turning into loony-tune leftists at the hands of their "education," I find people like Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh and Dennis Prager to be very helpful. They know how to present material to appeal to teens and are smart enough to shut down any liberal/ leftist position.

Wow, are there books in your world?

+1 Parenting fail.

Well, since you guys brought up books... Ben just published a new one:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48929883-how-to-destroy-america-in-three-easy-steps

"Traditional areas of civic agreement are vanishing. We can’t agree on what makes America special. We can’t even agree that America is special. We’re coming to the point that we can’t even agree what the word America itself means. “Disintegrationists” say we’re stronger together, but their assault on America’s history, philosophy, and culture will only tear us apart."

Here's a traditional area of civic agreement: doing your part to stop spreading germs.

There is more than one way to do that, along with side effects of actions that must be considered. You are illustrating Ben's point that just because we don't agree on "the how", your take is that those that don't agree with you simply do not want to stop the spread of germs.

Is there a secret right wing alternative to stopping the spread of coronavirus that is being assiduously practiced behind my back? I don't think so. People are choosing to ignore the recognized methods.

Ben's point is specifically that we can't agree on what makes America special or if it is special at all. It's right there in black and white. Its absurd to think that your children benefit from somebody convincing them of this. Instead, they should be reading history and making their own judgments about it. You want them to be indoctrinated into conservatism, instead of forming their own opinions based on a solid knowledge of our history.

Are you saying that this is not true? Is it not true that Democrats now ridicule American Exceptionalism? Is it not true that it is a Democratic refrain that America was never great? Is it not true that Democrats, through efforts like the 1619 project, cast the US as being founded on the original sin of slavery and is it not true that through supporting movements like BLM, the proposed solution is to tear it all down "root and branch" and rebuilt from the ground up? This is simply an observation of fact, my children don't have to be convinced of it. They are inculcated by their schools to be ashamed of their country, to see patriotism and nationalism as evil devices of the right. What I've had to do is teach my kids to be proud of this great nation, to teach them that despite its many flaws, it is the best country to have ever been created by man. Of all the classes they take, civics and history are the only ones I do study sessions with them, to ensure that they see not only the mistakes we've made in our past, but also marvel at the genius of the men that formed our government and set in motion the course of history that leads to the present, with all of our achievements and faults.

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Anonymous wrote:In the ongoing attempt to keep my kids from turning into loony-tune leftists at the hands of their "education," I find people like Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh and Dennis Prager to be very helpful. They know how to present material to appeal to teens and are smart enough to shut down any liberal/ leftist position.

Wow, are there books in your world?

+1 Parenting fail.

Well, since you guys brought up books... Ben just published a new one:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48929883-how-to-destroy-america-in-three-easy-steps

"Traditional areas of civic agreement are vanishing. We can’t agree on what makes America special. We can’t even agree that America is special. We’re coming to the point that we can’t even agree what the word America itself means. “Disintegrationists” say we’re stronger together, but their assault on America’s history, philosophy, and culture will only tear us apart."

Here's a traditional area of civic agreement: doing your part to stop spreading germs.

There is more than one way to do that, along with side effects of actions that must be considered. You are illustrating Ben's point that just because we don't agree on "the how", your take is that those that don't agree with you simply do not want to stop the spread of germs.

Is there a secret right wing alternative to stopping the spread of coronavirus that is being assiduously practiced behind my back? I don't think so. People are choosing to ignore the recognized methods.

Ben's point is specifically that we can't agree on what makes America special or if it is special at all. It's right there in black and white. Its absurd to think that your children benefit from somebody convincing them of this. Instead, they should be reading history and making their own judgments about it. You want them to be indoctrinated into conservatism, instead of forming their own opinions based on a solid knowledge of our history.

Are you saying that this is not true? Is it not true that Democrats now ridicule American Exceptionalism? Is it not true that it is a Democratic refrain that America was never great? Is it not true that Democrats, through efforts like the 1619 project, cast the US as being founded on the original sin of slavery and is it not true that through supporting movements like BLM, the proposed solution is to tear it all down "root and branch" and rebuilt from the ground up? This is simply an observation of fact, my children don't have to be convinced of it. They are inculcated by their schools to be ashamed of their country, to see patriotism and nationalism as evil devices of the right. What I've had to do is teach my kids to be proud of this great nation, to teach them that despite its many flaws, it is the best country to have ever been created by man. Of all the classes they take, civics and history are the only ones I do study sessions with them, to ensure that they see not only the mistakes we've made in our past, but also marvel at the genius of the men that formed our government and set in motion the course of history that leads to the present, with all of our achievements and faults.

The last Democratic president persistently affirmed American exceptionalism throughout his career, so yes, Ben Shapiro is wrong. I say that as a person who thinks American Exceptionalism is at best silly and often actively pernicious. I generally vote for Democrats, but I don't think my views on this are particularly well represented by those people I vote for.

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Anonymous wrote:In the ongoing attempt to keep my kids from turning into loony-tune leftists at the hands of their "education," I find people like Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh and Dennis Prager to be very helpful. They know how to present material to appeal to teens and are smart enough to shut down any liberal/ leftist position.

Wow, are there books in your world?

+1 Parenting fail.

Well, since you guys brought up books... Ben just published a new one:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48929883-how-to-destroy-america-in-three-easy-steps

"Traditional areas of civic agreement are vanishing. We can’t agree on what makes America special. We can’t even agree that America is special. We’re coming to the point that we can’t even agree what the word America itself means. “Disintegrationists” say we’re stronger together, but their assault on America’s history, philosophy, and culture will only tear us apart."

Here's a traditional area of civic agreement: doing your part to stop spreading germs.

There is more than one way to do that, along with side effects of actions that must be considered. You are illustrating Ben's point that just because we don't agree on "the how", your take is that those that don't agree with you simply do not want to stop the spread of germs.

Is there a secret right wing alternative to stopping the spread of coronavirus that is being assiduously practiced behind my back? I don't think so. People are choosing to ignore the recognized methods.

Ben's point is specifically that we can't agree on what makes America special or if it is special at all. It's right there in black and white. Its absurd to think that your children benefit from somebody convincing them of this. Instead, they should be reading history and making their own judgments about it. You want them to be indoctrinated into conservatism, instead of forming their own opinions based on a solid knowledge of our history.

Are you saying that this is not true? Is it not true that Democrats now ridicule American Exceptionalism? Is it not true that it is a Democratic refrain that America was never great? Is it not true that Democrats, through efforts like the 1619 project, cast the US as being founded on the original sin of slavery and is it not true that through supporting movements like BLM, the proposed solution is to tear it all down "root and branch" and rebuilt from the ground up? This is simply an observation of fact, my children don't have to be convinced of it. They are inculcated by their schools to be ashamed of their country, to see patriotism and nationalism as evil devices of the right. What I've had to do is teach my kids to be proud of this great nation, to teach them that despite its many flaws, it is the best country to have ever been created by man. Of all the classes they take, civics and history are the only ones I do study sessions with them, to ensure that they see not only the mistakes we've made in our past, but also marvel at the genius of the men that formed our government and set in motion the course of history that leads to the present, with all of our achievements and faults.

The last Democratic president persistently affirmed American exceptionalism throughout his career, so yes, Ben Shapiro is wrong. I say that as a person who thinks American Exceptionalism is at best silly and often actively pernicious. I generally vote for Democrats, but I don't think my views on this are particularly well represented by those people I vote for.

LOL, Obama is no longer progressive enough for the present Democratic party. This is why Ben's book came out in 2020, and not 2008 or 2012.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ben on the Barr Hearings:

“Was like watching a bunch of Corgies trying to schtup a basketball”

It's a special kind of comedy to listen to a Harvard educated Jewish lawyer living in LA making jokes using PG language and in alignment with his devout religious beliefs.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't want to start a new thread but what are your guys opinions on Rising (by the hill)? It stars Krystal Ball (former msnbc host) and Saagar Enjeti (conservative think-tank guy)

1000x better than Shapiro. But they need to be on iTunes. I don't listen because it's too tricky to listen via YouTube while in the car or on a run.

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Anonymous wrote:Ben on the Barr Hearings:

“Was like watching a bunch of Corgies trying to schtup a basketball”

It's a special kind of comedy to listen to a Harvard educated Jewish lawyer living in LA making jokes using PG language and in alignment with his devout religious beliefs.

...who's never had a real job, who's clearly autistic, who has never left his gilded LA surroundings yet tells folks in flyover country to pack it up and move to a "job center."

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Anonymous wrote:Ben on the Barr Hearings:

“Was like watching a bunch of Corgies trying to schtup a basketball”

It's a special kind of comedy to listen to a Harvard educated Jewish lawyer living in LA making jokes using PG language and in alignment with his devout religious beliefs.

...who's never had a real job, who's clearly autistic, who has never left his gilded LA surroundings yet tells folks in flyover country to pack it up and move to a "job center."

Running a successful and profitable business that employs others is a real job. Not sure why you mentioned autism - do you hold negative views of people suffering from autism?

I believe the primary reason he is in LA is because he was born there. People like him tend to establish roots around family and friends.

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Anonymous wrote:In the ongoing attempt to keep my kids from turning into loony-tune leftists at the hands of their "education," I find people like Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh and Dennis Prager to be very helpful. They know how to present material to appeal to teens and are smart enough to shut down any liberal/ leftist position.

Wow, are there books in your world?

+1 Parenting fail.

Well, since you guys brought up books... Ben just published a new one:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48929883-how-to-destroy-america-in-three-easy-steps

"Traditional areas of civic agreement are vanishing. We can’t agree on what makes America special. We can’t even agree that America is special. We’re coming to the point that we can’t even agree what the word America itself means. “Disintegrationists” say we’re stronger together, but their assault on America’s history, philosophy, and culture will only tear us apart."

Here's a traditional area of civic agreement: doing your part to stop spreading germs.

There is more than one way to do that, along with side effects of actions that must be considered. You are illustrating Ben's point that just because we don't agree on "the how", your take is that those that don't agree with you simply do not want to stop the spread of germs.

Is there a secret right wing alternative to stopping the spread of coronavirus that is being assiduously practiced behind my back? I don't think so. People are choosing to ignore the recognized methods.

Ben's point is specifically that we can't agree on what makes America special or if it is special at all. It's right there in black and white. Its absurd to think that your children benefit from somebody convincing them of this. Instead, they should be reading history and making their own judgments about it. You want them to be indoctrinated into conservatism, instead of forming their own opinions based on a solid knowledge of our history.

Are you saying that this is not true? Is it not true that Democrats now ridicule American Exceptionalism? Is it not true that it is a Democratic refrain that America was never great? Is it not true that Democrats, through efforts like the 1619 project, cast the US as being founded on the original sin of slavery and is it not true that through supporting movements like BLM, the proposed solution is to tear it all down "root and branch" and rebuilt from the ground up? This is simply an observation of fact, my children don't have to be convinced of it. They are inculcated by their schools to be ashamed of their country, to see patriotism and nationalism as evil devices of the right. What I've had to do is teach my kids to be proud of this great nation, to teach them that despite its many flaws, it is the best country to have ever been created by man. Of all the classes they take, civics and history are the only ones I do study sessions with them, to ensure that they see not only the mistakes we've made in our past, but also marvel at the genius of the men that formed our government and set in motion the course of history that leads to the present, with all of our achievements and faults.

Well obviously I hit the bullseye on this. You are obviously preoccupied with ensuring that their impression of America matches yours. American Exceptionalism is dogma. You can believe that America is great without swallowing the whole thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't want to start a new thread but what are your guys opinions on Rising (by the hill)? It stars Krystal Ball (former msnbc host) and Saagar Enjeti (conservative think-tank guy)

Not my cup of tea, constant whining

[Anonymous]

1. Take a breath, dude!
2. We get it you’re religious
3. Stop using your religion as a shield
4. Opinions aren’t facts—my third grader knows that
5. Please stop beating me over the head Hannity-style and engage in discussion and debate
6. Sorry mister religious, but you lose me when you start mocking and literally making fun of those you don’t agree with

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I don't know. I don't think anyone considers him to be a thought leader.

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Anonymous wrote:In the ongoing attempt to keep my kids from turning into loony-tune leftists at the hands of their "education," I find people like Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh and Dennis Prager to be very helpful. They know how to present material to appeal to teens and are smart enough to shut down any liberal/ leftist position.

Wow, are there books in your world?

+1 Parenting fail.

Well, since you guys brought up books... Ben just published a new one:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48929883-how-to-destroy-america-in-three-easy-steps

"Traditional areas of civic agreement are vanishing. We can’t agree on what makes America special. We can’t even agree that America is special. We’re coming to the point that we can’t even agree what the word America itself means. “Disintegrationists” say we’re stronger together, but their assault on America’s history, philosophy, and culture will only tear us apart."

Here's a traditional area of civic agreement: doing your part to stop spreading germs.

There is more than one way to do that, along with side effects of actions that must be considered. You are illustrating Ben's point that just because we don't agree on "the how", your take is that those that don't agree with you simply do not want to stop the spread of germs.

Is there a secret right wing alternative to stopping the spread of coronavirus that is being assiduously practiced behind my back? I don't think so. People are choosing to ignore the recognized methods.

Ben's point is specifically that we can't agree on what makes America special or if it is special at all. It's right there in black and white. Its absurd to think that your children benefit from somebody convincing them of this. Instead, they should be reading history and making their own judgments about it. You want them to be indoctrinated into conservatism, instead of forming their own opinions based on a solid knowledge of our history.

Are you saying that this is not true? Is it not true that Democrats now ridicule American Exceptionalism? Is it not true that it is a Democratic refrain that America was never great? Is it not true that Democrats, through efforts like the 1619 project, cast the US as being founded on the original sin of slavery and is it not true that through supporting movements like BLM, the proposed solution is to tear it all down "root and branch" and rebuilt from the ground up? This is simply an observation of fact, my children don't have to be convinced of it. They are inculcated by their schools to be ashamed of their country, to see patriotism and nationalism as evil devices of the right. What I've had to do is teach my kids to be proud of this great nation, to teach them that despite its many flaws, it is the best country to have ever been created by man. Of all the classes they take, civics and history are the only ones I do study sessions with them, to ensure that they see not only the mistakes we've made in our past, but also marvel at the genius of the men that formed our government and set in motion the course of history that leads to the present, with all of our achievements and faults.

Well obviously I hit the bullseye on this. You are obviously preoccupied with ensuring that their impression of America matches yours. American Exceptionalism is dogma. You can believe that America is great without swallowing the whole thing.

Hit the bullseye? It's a foreign concept to you that parents provides the context and informs the worldview of the kids they raise? Do you also jump into the ocean and is super proud that you found water? If American Exceptionalism is dogma, then what does that say about Obama? American exceptionalism isn't about America being perfect. Learning about America's history involves learning bout the whole thing, and not just some small aspect of it.