GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I hate this. I am part of the problem, having just enrolled my child in private school.

I know why public schools are important and why having rich high-achieving kids in public school is important. We had bent over backward to stay at our public school despite some minor disadvantages to our kid. But we have just hit our limit. I still think our school is great -- but they are limited by FCPS, and FCPS has screwed up repeatedly. They have really played into the GOP talking points that public services are bad.

My spouse thinks we'll return to public school in 2021. I think we're probably in private until junior high.

I still don't support vouchers, as a policy matter.

God forbid those less fortunate be able to make the choice you did

I'm the PP you're responding to. The school provides need-based financial aid. If you want to talk about need-based vouchers, that's interesting and maybe a good idea. But vouchers tend to be pushed by the wealthy, who are in private school regardless of what it costs and just want to not pay for community schools. Somebody who does not qualify for financial aid should not be getting vouchers.

The only activists I have seen are working class, like the bw who went to a Warren event to talk to her about vouchers and choice. She told Warren that she wanted a choice, just like Warren had for her own children.


Democraic party politicians are wrong on this issue. They send their kids to privates and top publics, and tell their voters how very important it is that their children don't have options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Follow the money.

Always.

It tells you whether the organization is scary or funny.

OP here. Does anyone know anything about the funding of this particular group? Where one find that information?

I don’t know, but they’re very Christian. That part is clear.

[Anonymous]

Aren't vouchers a way to dumb down education? The idea is by eliminating the ability to think critically they can increase GOP membership.

[Anonymous]

honestly the best bet is to either homeschool w/ a qualified teacher or use public and pod up. This is a good way to get a qualified teacher that the parents can decide on their performance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a federal Government controlled by Republicans that has completely bungled the response to Covid-19, damaging public school systems in the process. And then these same tools want to turn that to their advantage by indulging in their longstanding wet dream of defending public education and handing out vouchers.

Are you always played that easily?

Both sides are trying to play it to their advantage at the expense of the general public. Let’s not pretend this is one sided.

It’s one-sided. Republicans are trying to destroy public schools.

Why? Because a big share of local tax dollars go to schools and because Republicans billionaires want to destroy government to cut taxes on themselves.
That’s the reason why GOP donors want it.

Evangelicals want public schools destroyed because they don’t want their kids exposed to truthful ideas and then become liberals.

Betsy DeVos is great for the GOP because she’s both: a billionaire evangelical who wants to destroy public schools for both reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I hate this. I am part of the problem, having just enrolled my child in private school.

I know why public schools are important and why having rich high-achieving kids in public school is important. We had bent over backward to stay at our public school despite some minor disadvantages to our kid. But we have just hit our limit. I still think our school is great -- but they are limited by FCPS, and FCPS has screwed up repeatedly. They have really played into the GOP talking points that public services are bad.

My spouse thinks we'll return to public school in 2021. I think we're probably in private until junior high.

I still don't support vouchers, as a policy matter.

God forbid those less fortunate be able to make the choice you did

I'm the PP you're responding to. The school provides need-based financial aid. If you want to talk about need-based vouchers, that's interesting and maybe a good idea. But vouchers tend to be pushed by the wealthy, who are in private school regardless of what it costs and just want to not pay for community schools. Somebody who does not qualify for financial aid should not be getting vouchers.

The only activists I have seen are working class, like the bw who went to a Warren event to talk to her about vouchers and choice. She told Warren that she wanted a choice, just like Warren had for her own children.


Democraic party politicians are wrong on this issue. They send their kids to privates and top publics, and tell their voters how very important it is that their children don't have options.

Its all about the power. Pubic tax money, to support public-sector unions for teachers. If those systems had to compete for funds......less public teachers = less union funds. Its all a money / power game. Somewhere at the end of things a kid or two gets educated.

Bottom line is NOBODY in power really wants an educated population who can think for itself. If we did, we'd have it already. There's always enough to bomb any country we feel like, to buy every shiny toy needed for the government. To pay for anything, to send out $4000 checks to 'stimulate' the economy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a federal Government controlled by Republicans that has completely bungled the response to Covid-19, damaging public school systems in the process. And then these same tools want to turn that to their advantage by indulging in their longstanding wet dream of defending public education and handing out vouchers.

Are you always played that easily?

Both sides are trying to play it to their advantage at the expense of the general public. Let’s not pretend this is one sided.

It’s one-sided. Republicans are trying to destroy public schools.

Why? Because a big share of local tax dollars go to schools and because Republicans billionaires want to destroy government to cut taxes on themselves.
That’s the reason why GOP donors want it.

Evangelicals want public schools destroyed because they don’t want their kids exposed to truthful ideas and then become liberals.

Betsy DeVos is great for the GOP because she’s both: a billionaire evangelical who wants to destroy public schools for both reasons.

I've gotten a decent education. Engineering degree and also a Masters. Hasn't made me a "liberal" and hasn't made me a "conservative". Its made me a free thinker, which in fact is what BOTH parties fear. A truly education person scrutinizes everything and can't be spoon-fed; they look for a source's motivation and not just results. Republicans want to destroy public schools, Democrats want public schools that dont really do anything. Seems like 2 sides of the same coin t me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with leaving a government run system that is failing to provide the best for your child?

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a federal Government controlled by Republicans that has completely bungled the response to Covid-19, damaging public school systems in the process. And then these same tools want to turn that to their advantage by indulging in their longstanding wet dream of defending public education and handing out vouchers.

Are you always played that easily?

Both sides are trying to play it to their advantage at the expense of the general public. Let’s not pretend this is one sided.

It’s one-sided. Republicans are trying to destroy public schools.

Why? Because a big share of local tax dollars go to schools and because Republicans billionaires want to destroy government to cut taxes on themselves.
That’s the reason why GOP donors want it.

Evangelicals want public schools destroyed because they don’t want their kids exposed to truthful ideas and then become liberals.

Betsy DeVos is great for the GOP because she’s both: a billionaire evangelical who wants to destroy public schools for both reasons.

Wow, amazing critical thinking... and I thought conspiracy theories were supposed to be more prevalent on the conservative side.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I hate this. I am part of the problem, having just enrolled my child in private school.

I know why public schools are important and why having rich high-achieving kids in public school is important. We had bent over backward to stay at our public school despite some minor disadvantages to our kid. But we have just hit our limit. I still think our school is great -- but they are limited by FCPS, and FCPS has screwed up repeatedly. They have really played into the GOP talking points that public services are bad.

My spouse thinks we'll return to public school in 2021. I think we're probably in private until junior high.

I still don't support vouchers, as a policy matter.

God forbid those less fortunate be able to make the choice you did

I'm the PP you're responding to. The school provides need-based financial aid. If you want to talk about need-based vouchers, that's interesting and maybe a good idea. But vouchers tend to be pushed by the wealthy, who are in private school regardless of what it costs and just want to not pay for community schools. Somebody who does not qualify for financial aid should not be getting vouchers.

The only activists I have seen are working class, like the bw who went to a Warren event to talk to her about vouchers and choice. She told Warren that she wanted a choice, just like Warren had for her own children.


Democraic party politicians are wrong on this issue. They send their kids to privates and top publics, and tell their voters how very important it is that their children don't have options.

limousine liberals are still a thing. You can argue about the value of public education and how important it is that kids stay in public all you want, but it rings hollow when you buy houses specifically to be in boundary for certain schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aren't vouchers a way to dumb down education? The idea is by eliminating the ability to think critically they can increase GOP membership.

Withhold choice from the poor and force them to stay in stellar systems like Baltimore. Democrats are always so interested in the common good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have not heard of that, but to be honest we are new to the school system and NOW I understand the push for vouchers. If public school can’t educate our kids, let the private schools do it. Let the money follow the student.

Right into the pockets of the GOP. And don't think for a minute that the GED-mills they create to capture your voucher money will do a better job than public (take a peak at the worst charter school scandals out there). Also, don't think all those kids with the vouchers will be going to "The Big 5" - they are full and don't need your voucher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Aren't vouchers a way to dumb down education? The idea is by eliminating the ability to think critically they can increase GOP membership.

Withhold choice from the poor and force them to stay in stellar systems like Baltimore. Democrats are always so interested in the common good.

And what school do you think those tens of thousands of kids will get to go to with their tiny voucher? And when they all end up in the same school building again, but with profits going to some faux education company that replaced teachers with computers anyway, do you think outcomes will be different?

[Anonymous]

I would like to see some tax deductions for parents having to pay for education at home whether it's tutors, supplies or internet etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Aren't vouchers a way to dumb down education? The idea is by eliminating the ability to think critically they can increase GOP membership.

Withhold choice from the poor and force them to stay in stellar systems like Baltimore. Democrats are always so interested in the common good.

And what school do you think those tens of thousands of kids will get to go to with their tiny voucher? And when they all end up in the same school building again, but with profits going to some faux education company that replaced teachers with computers anyway, do you think outcomes will be different?

16k per student as a voucher (https://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/news/2019/05/21/baltimore-city-third-in-u-s-for-per-pupil-spending.html) would get them into a lot of decent privates. If they get need based aid on top of it a lot of elite ones too. Most may not take advantage, but some certainly would