If harvard can fill their class up 2x-3x due to the strength of the applicant pool....

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Anonymous wrote:One argument is the fairest thing is to make the class mirror the country. That would mean 13% black. That would preference blacks over groups that are over represented at Harvard, like Asians, which make up 6% of the country, but 21% of Harvard’s freshman class.

How about admit applicants who are qualified and are interesting and qualified, and put aside the race card?

I'm pretty sure OP is a white person trying to stir the pot and deepen the race divide, not a black person seriously asking this question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why don’t we just forbid whites from attending Harvard and completely fill the university with black students. It seems like we only care about race these days anyway.

You're falling for OP's race baiting. OP is not black and is just trying to get people who aren't black riled up by posing this question. I'm black and don't know one black person who would ask why Harvard isn't 45 percent black. Don't fall for this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One argument is the fairest thing is to make the class mirror the country. That would mean 13% black. That would preference blacks over groups that are over represented at Harvard, like Asians, which make up 6% of the country, but 21% of Harvard’s freshman class.

How about admit applicants who are qualified and are interesting and qualified, and put aside the race card?

I'm pretty sure OP is a white person trying to stir the pot and deepen the race divide, not a black person seriously asking this question.

I was sure OP is antisemite trying to stir the pot by reducing 25% Harvard Jewish population down to 2%

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Blacks who graduate from Harvard don’t have the same life outcome as others. So not sure what is the point of the affirmative action.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/357445/black-harvard-graduates-have-the-same-shot-at-a-job-call-back-as-white-state-college-grads/amp/

I believe Harvard also has complained loudly that their black graduates don’t do as well. I guess H was expecting everyone to be awe struck by their sheepskin.

Because of racism.

"Racism is so pervasive in the US job market that even black Americans with Harvard degrees are at a disadvantage, according a 2014 study in the journal Social Forces (highlighted in Inside Higher Ed)."

So, what is your plan of action? Affirmative action from cradle to grave? Whatever you want, just implement. Easy peazy. Problem solved.

DP. No. I think getting rid of racial bias in hiring would solve the problem.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One argument is the fairest thing is to make the class mirror the country. That would mean 13% black. That would preference blacks over groups that are over represented at Harvard, like Asians, which make up 6% of the country, but 21% of Harvard’s freshman class.

How about admit applicants who are qualified and are interesting and qualified, and put aside the race card?

I'm pretty sure OP is a white person trying to stir the pot and deepen the race divide, not a black person seriously asking this question.

I was sure OP is antisemite trying to stir the pot by reducing 25% Harvard Jewish population down to 2%

OP definitely has an agenda to stoke division. This is not a serious question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One argument is the fairest thing is to make the class mirror the country. That would mean 13% black. That would preference blacks over groups that are over represented at Harvard, like Asians, which make up 6% of the country, but 21% of Harvard’s freshman class.

How about admit applicants who are qualified and are interesting and qualified, and put aside the race card?

I'm pretty sure OP is a white person trying to stir the pot and deepen the race divide, not a black person seriously asking this question.

I was sure OP is antisemite trying to stir the pot by reducing 25% Harvard Jewish population down to 2%

no one mentioned jewish population until you did.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One argument is the fairest thing is to make the class mirror the country. That would mean 13% black. That would preference blacks over groups that are over represented at Harvard, like Asians, which make up 6% of the country, but 21% of Harvard’s freshman class.

How about admit applicants who are qualified and are interesting and qualified, and put aside the race card?

I'm pretty sure OP is a white person trying to stir the pot and deepen the race divide, not a black person seriously asking this question.

I was sure OP is antisemite trying to stir the pot by reducing 25% Harvard Jewish population down to 2%

no one mentioned jewish population until you did.

If you want to mirror the country, that’s 15% blacks, 5% Asians, and 2% Jews.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One argument is the fairest thing is to make the class mirror the country. That would mean 13% black. That would preference blacks over groups that are over represented at Harvard, like Asians, which make up 6% of the country, but 21% of Harvard’s freshman class.

How about admit applicants who are qualified and are interesting and qualified, and put aside the race card?

I'm pretty sure OP is a white person trying to stir the pot and deepen the race divide, not a black person seriously asking this question.

I was sure OP is antisemite trying to stir the pot by reducing 25% Harvard Jewish population down to 2%

I don’t think OP said that but if H can fill the class over and over with top students from every race, religion, ethnicity then 25% would be clear discrimination to everyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SAT scores broken down

https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/pdf/sat-percentile-ranks-gender-race-ethnicity.pdf

Assuming ivy caliber tudent would be a 99th percentile right?

[Anonymous]

If Harvard can actually fill its class 2-3x over then how is anyone being discriminated against?

[Anonymous]

Not sure what OP’s point is. OP wants to increase enrollment from 15% to 45%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why are blacks capped at 15% of the student body year in year out -- you could boost it to 30-45% without a drop in quality, yes?

First, who said “blacks are capped at 15%”? Support? What’s the criteria of the “cap”?
Second, since you ask for a percentage, why blacks should be 30-45% when black population is 13%?

[Anonymous]

why should blacks be at 45% when the black population in the US is 13%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why should blacks be at 45% when the black population in the US is 13%

part of a reparation policy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why are blacks capped at 15% of the student body year in year out -- you could boost it to 30-45% without a drop in quality, yes?

No one ever said Harvard could fill their class 2-3x for every minority group. That statement refers to the overall pool of applicants only.