LMVSC town hall

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's be honest, the only reason they will be doing Academy style is because they don't have enough players. PEP training was a mess, how's this different? The Club and Coaches as usual only focus on Red team players, nothing has changed there.

Only similarity between this and PEP is that the kids from the same age group will be on the same field at the same time. It was a mess and in my opinion because they had way too many different age groups on the field at the same time. Sessions were also smaller so they tried to cram as much as possible into that time.

My friends at Alexandria said they do academy style and it seems to work for them as the age groups that started in the academy are now starting to show results. I think "red" players will still train with "red" players and same for "white" with the occasional movement based on how players are progressing.

The previous model produced top players and teams (State Cups, National League, winning big events, etc). This new proposed model 'might' work but Alexandria has the amount of players to pull it off. And again, if it ends up red still trains with red and white still trains with white, it looks to me like they're lying to white players. And if they do follow through of mixing it up, it just sounds like lesser challenges for red.

I heard last night 'this model works in Europe' and now seeing some posters as above say it works in Alexandria. Well take a look at ourselves, we're not Europeans and this isn't ASA. Just because it worked there doesn't mean it's what's best for us, let alone DS.

Agree!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

he previous model produced top players and teams (State Cups, National League, winning big events, etc). This new proposed model 'might' work but Alexandria has the amount of players to pull it off. And again, if it ends up red still trains with red and white still trains with white, it looks to me like they're lying to white players. And if they do follow through of mixing it up, it just sounds like lesser challenges for red.

There's honestly not that huge a difference between Alexandria team levels one level apart. My child has played for them for a long time. Two levels, yes, there is a big difference, and yes, the higher level team would always win more scrimmages between the two - but not every one. There will always be some kids on a team one level up who were on the cusp of being one level down and vice versa. It's fine.

Thank you, but I’m not looking for “fine”.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The academy model promptly ended at SYC after the great SYC/LMVSC DT/Coach swap and has now come full circle to LMVSC.

Stop with the SYC—LMVSC nonsense, it is really immature, petty and trivial. (From an Alexandria parent)

"Alexandria parent"

Any soccer parent sees the thread "LMVSC town hall" you bet they'll just keep scrolling.

PP has a good point too, the Academy style didn't produce better players at old SYC why are the coaches bringing it here now???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The academy model promptly ended at SYC after the great SYC/LMVSC DT/Coach swap and has now come full circle to LMVSC.

Stop with the SYC—LMVSC nonsense, it is really immature, petty and trivial. (From an Alexandria parent)

"Alexandria parent"

Any soccer parent sees the thread "LMVSC town hall" you bet they'll just keep scrolling.

PP has a good point too, the Academy style didn't produce better players at old SYC why are the coaches bringing it here now???

What club do your kids play for? I assume only LMVSC? (And not SYC)

[Anonymous]

All the “Academy” model does is allow for a higher kid per coach ratio. Essentially, one coach can head coach two teams and assistant coach a couple. It also means clubs can field more teams by getting more kids on the practice fields (e.g. 2 teams practicing on a half field. Is it better....it depends on what you are looking for. Academies make carpools easier, but kids loose a lot of individualized attention. Also, if there is a big range of skills on the field, the stronger players tend not to get challenged enough and have slower development. Academies became a thing because the structure maximizes revenues while allowing clubs to increase coaches overall pay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The academy model promptly ended at SYC after the great SYC/LMVSC DT/Coach swap and has now come full circle to LMVSC.

Stop with the SYC—LMVSC nonsense, it is really immature, petty and trivial. (From an Alexandria parent)

"Alexandria parent"

Any soccer parent sees the thread "LMVSC town hall" you bet they'll just keep scrolling.

PP has a good point too, the Academy style didn't produce better players at old SYC why are the coaches bringing it here now???

Didn't two of their teams win state cup just before the coaches came over?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

he previous model produced top players and teams (State Cups, National League, winning big events, etc). This new proposed model 'might' work but Alexandria has the amount of players to pull it off. And again, if it ends up red still trains with red and white still trains with white, it looks to me like they're lying to white players. And if they do follow through of mixing it up, it just sounds like lesser challenges for red.

There's honestly not that huge a difference between Alexandria team levels one level apart. My child has played for them for a long time. Two levels, yes, there is a big difference, and yes, the higher level team would always win more scrimmages between the two - but not every one. There will always be some kids on a team one level up who were on the cusp of being one level down and vice versa. It's fine.

Hi Alexandria parent. There's one big difference: we are not you. This 'one size fits all' idea just seems like an old idea that's going to be used on us. I didn't hear anything about 'based on this past year, we have noticed...'. I like the community support, but for technical develop of DS I'd like a little more than him to just be filtered through the curriculum. If this is standardized as they say it, they should've shown their math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The academy model promptly ended at SYC after the great SYC/LMVSC DT/Coach swap and has now come full circle to LMVSC.

Stop with the SYC—LMVSC nonsense, it is really immature, petty and trivial. (From an Alexandria parent)

"Alexandria parent"

Any soccer parent sees the thread "LMVSC town hall" you bet they'll just keep scrolling.

PP has a good point too, the Academy style didn't produce better players at old SYC why are the coaches bringing it here now???

Didn't two of their teams win state cup just before the coaches came over?

Were these 9v9 State Cups? Thanks, but I'm not going to sit here and thank anybody for their previous work. For all of this community talk, I don't feel like DDs team nor DD was considered (not that she's ever met red team coach despite 'two year cap') in this "new" idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The academy model promptly ended at SYC after the great SYC/LMVSC DT/Coach swap and has now come full circle to LMVSC.

Stop with the SYC—LMVSC nonsense, it is really immature, petty and trivial. (From an Alexandria parent)

"Alexandria parent"

Any soccer parent sees the thread "LMVSC town hall" you bet they'll just keep scrolling.

PP has a good point too, the Academy style didn't produce better players at old SYC why are the coaches bringing it here now???

Didn't two of their teams win state cup just before the coaches came over?

Were these 9v9 State Cups? Thanks, but I'm not going to sit here and thank anybody for their previous work. For all of this community talk, I don't feel like DDs team nor DD was considered (not that she's ever met red team coach despite 'two year cap') in this "new" idea.

Well i'm not thanking them either for what they did in the past but you made it seem like they didn't do anything, just pointing the fact that there was some success. Not sure what you mean about your daughter not meeting red team coach? Was she white team and didn't get to play red? If so and good enough then she will now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The academy model promptly ended at SYC after the great SYC/LMVSC DT/Coach swap and has now come full circle to LMVSC.

Stop with the SYC—LMVSC nonsense, it is really immature, petty and trivial. (From an Alexandria parent)

"Alexandria parent"

Any soccer parent sees the thread "LMVSC town hall" you bet they'll just keep scrolling.

PP has a good point too, the Academy style didn't produce better players at old SYC why are the coaches bringing it here now???

Didn't two of their teams win state cup just before the coaches came over?

Were these 9v9 State Cups? Thanks, but I'm not going to sit here and thank anybody for their previous work. For all of this community talk, I don't feel like DDs team nor DD was considered (not that she's ever met red team coach despite 'two year cap') in this "new" idea.

Well i'm not thanking them either for what they did in the past but you made it seem like they didn't do anything, just pointing the fact that there was some success. Not sure what you mean about your daughter not meeting red team coach? Was she white team and didn't get to play red? If so and good enough then she will now.

Well since LMVSC has now decided to reappear on this thread, can you please tell me why we were told last year "coaches will only have two years with a team, because they're like teachers and students need new teachers"? Because clearly that isn't the case. While I'm at it, I would like to know how exactly your academy approach is supposed to work. Because again, either DD gets judged once a year by the academy coach, or academy coach sees his team a lot less. You didn't answer the question yesterday so might as well try to now. Not that it will change my decision, but I would like my question answered.

[Anonymous]

Ah the old SYC/LMVSC beef

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ah the old SYC/LMVSC beef

Please don't bring this up--this is about unknown status of a refund (besides 'working on it') and the decision to become an academy. Although I do have plenty of criticism for quite some time now.

[Anonymous]

"LMVSC" can also tell us about how they were going to close the gap between Red teams and White teams...if anything that gap is even bigger now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The academy model promptly ended at SYC after the great SYC/LMVSC DT/Coach swap and has now come full circle to LMVSC.

Stop with the SYC—LMVSC nonsense, it is really immature, petty and trivial. (From an Alexandria parent)

"Alexandria parent"

Any soccer parent sees the thread "LMVSC town hall" you bet they'll just keep scrolling.

PP has a good point too, the Academy style didn't produce better players at old SYC why are the coaches bringing it here now???

Didn't two of their teams win state cup just before the coaches came over?

Were these 9v9 State Cups? Thanks, but I'm not going to sit here and thank anybody for their previous work. For all of this community talk, I don't feel like DDs team nor DD was considered (not that she's ever met red team coach despite 'two year cap') in this "new" idea.

Well i'm not thanking them either for what they did in the past but you made it seem like they didn't do anything, just pointing the fact that there was some success. Not sure what you mean about your daughter not meeting red team coach? Was she white team and didn't get to play red? If so and good enough then she will now.

Well since LMVSC has now decided to reappear on this thread, can you please tell me why we were told last year "coaches will only have two years with a team, because they're like teachers and students need new teachers"? Because clearly that isn't the case. While I'm at it, I would like to know how exactly your academy approach is supposed to work. Because again, either DD gets judged once a year by the academy coach, or academy coach sees his team a lot less. You didn't answer the question yesterday so might as well try to now. Not that it will change my decision, but I would like my question answered.

Here is the way I'm understanding from yesterday:
Red & White team train on same field each training day. All follow same lesson plan.
All coaches for the age group are there to work with the players.
Coaches will have exposure to all players during various times of training.
Players will be grouped by appropriate level, I think only way to keep pushing them all. Coaches will observe while they are on the field. Players dominating group may move up, those struggling drop a level. Doesn't mean permanent but movement.
There may be some coaching rotation for a specific drill. Red team will have their coach at all games and practices. A coach jumping off a drill to work with the other team for 15 minutes is not going to hinder the red team's development. I don't think that they mean the red team coach is going to work with the white team all day. I don't think anyone wants that.
Academy coach may come to 1 or more games who knows. I constantly saw the directors at both of my kids games multiple times. Actually saw this a lot more than ever before.

If that doesn't help, email them or your kid's current coach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The academy model promptly ended at SYC after the great SYC/LMVSC DT/Coach swap and has now come full circle to LMVSC.

Stop with the SYC—LMVSC nonsense, it is really immature, petty and trivial. (From an Alexandria parent)

"Alexandria parent"

Any soccer parent sees the thread "LMVSC town hall" you bet they'll just keep scrolling.

PP has a good point too, the Academy style didn't produce better players at old SYC why are the coaches bringing it here now???

Didn't two of their teams win state cup just before the coaches came over?

Were these 9v9 State Cups? Thanks, but I'm not going to sit here and thank anybody for their previous work. For all of this community talk, I don't feel like DDs team nor DD was considered (not that she's ever met red team coach despite 'two year cap') in this "new" idea.

Well i'm not thanking them either for what they did in the past but you made it seem like they didn't do anything, just pointing the fact that there was some success. Not sure what you mean about your daughter not meeting red team coach? Was she white team and didn't get to play red? If so and good enough then she will now.

Well since LMVSC has now decided to reappear on this thread, can you please tell me why we were told last year "coaches will only have two years with a team, because they're like teachers and students need new teachers"? Because clearly that isn't the case. While I'm at it, I would like to know how exactly your academy approach is supposed to work. Because again, either DD gets judged once a year by the academy coach, or academy coach sees his team a lot less. You didn't answer the question yesterday so might as well try to now. Not that it will change my decision, but I would like my question answered.

Here is the way I'm understanding from yesterday:
Red & White team train on same field each training day. All follow same lesson plan.
All coaches for the age group are there to work with the players.
Coaches will have exposure to all players during various times of training.
Players will be grouped by appropriate level, I think only way to keep pushing them all. Coaches will observe while they are on the field. Players dominating group may move up, those struggling drop a level. Doesn't mean permanent but movement.
There may be some coaching rotation for a specific drill. Red team will have their coach at all games and practices. A coach jumping off a drill to work with the other team for 15 minutes is not going to hinder the red team's development. I don't think that they mean the red team coach is going to work with the white team all day. I don't think anyone wants that.
Academy coach may come to 1 or more games who knows. I constantly saw the directors at both of my kids games multiple times. Actually saw this a lot more than ever before.

If that doesn't help, email them or your kid's current coach.

Thanks coach!