Hydroxychloroquine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You have to be really careful about how much to take. Just a little bit too much could kill you. Plus you have to take it with Azithromyacin.

I don’t quite understand - haven’t people been taking this as a preventative for malaria for many years? I know it is not the preferred antimalarial anymore because the side effects can be intense and there is some drug resistance to it in parts of Africa, but if it were that dangerous it wouldn’t be on the market.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren't all hospitalized cornonavirus patients given this drug immediately? If it doesn't work on them, it doesn't work but so much promise that it could.

What dose should be given? What if the dose you prescribed is too low and the viruses that survive are now immune to the drug? What if you does too high and cause health problems?

and what if too many patients recover too suddenly and there is stampede in the hospital?

[Anonymous]

I cannot believe that this has become part of the right-wing spin/conspiracy theory brigade.

Yes, chloroquine and derivatives are being tested and have promise.

No, this is not a cure yet. You have to do clinical trials to know if it’s safe and effective. Those trials are in progress.

In some cases doctors may use the drug prior to the trials. That’s a decision between patient and doctor. There are ALWAYS risks to any medication.

[Anonymous]

In the entire United States only 187 have recovered, so either you're lying or the guy on the radio is.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why aren't all hospitalized cornonavirus patients given this drug immediately? If it doesn't work on them, it doesn't work but so much promise that it could.

What dose should be given? What if the dose you prescribed is too low and the viruses that survive are now immune to the drug? What if you does too high and cause health problems?

this is totally unlike any other drug in existence - everything else you take in whatever dosage you feel like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have to be really careful about how much to take. Just a little bit too much could kill you. Plus you have to take it with Azithromyacin.

I don’t quite understand - haven’t people been taking this as a preventative for malaria for many years? I know it is not the preferred antimalarial anymore because the side effects can be intense and there is some drug resistance to it in parts of Africa, but if it were that dangerous it wouldn’t be on the market.

Huh? There are plenty of drugs on the market with significant side effects. Plus, we have no idea how it works on people with coronavirus - may the side effects are more severe. Hence, the need for trials.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have to be really careful about how much to take. Just a little bit too much could kill you. Plus you have to take it with Azithromyacin.

I don’t quite understand - haven’t people been taking this as a preventative for malaria for many years? I know it is not the preferred antimalarial anymore because the side effects can be intense and there is some drug resistance to it in parts of Africa, but if it were that dangerous it wouldn’t be on the market.

Huh? There are plenty of drugs on the market with significant side effects. Plus, we have no idea how it works on people with coronavirus - may the side effects are more severe. Hence, the need for trials.

I was responding to the PP who said that taking too much could kill you. That doesn’t seem to be a fact. While too much of anything (even Tylenol) can kill you, my point is that if it were that dangerous as in a slightly off dosage could kill you, this wouldn’t be on the market for so many years. I literally said the side effects can be intense. But side effects usually don’t kill you, and it’s irresponsible to say that just because you have Coronavirus they might. No one knows that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have to be really careful about how much to take. Just a little bit too much could kill you. Plus you have to take it with Azithromyacin.

Great. So, give it in the right dose with azithromyacin. I can promise you that if one of my loved ones comes down with this, I will move heaven and earth to get this drug to them.

No one knows what “the right dose” is without it being studied. And taken together they can increase the risk of fatal cardiac arrhythmia.

This was one tiny study that started with 26 patients taking it and 16 in the control group. But the results included only 20 patients taking it. Because three patients were transferred to the ICU, one died, one withdrew due to nausea, and one left the hospital. These are the kind of results that warrant further testing, NOT that further giving a drug combo with possible heart and poisoning side effects to hundreds of thousands of people and tweeting about it to millions, instantly limiting the supply to the patients that actually need it.

please stop the fear mongering. the side effects and interaction of hydroxychloroquine are extremely well known and extensively studied. nobody is prescribing this for the heck of it.

YES THEY ARE, doctors and dentists are prescribing it for themselves and their friends and family members so they have it on hand. Now patients who have been relying on it for years can’t get it. Get it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have to be really careful about how much to take. Just a little bit too much could kill you. Plus you have to take it with Azithromyacin.

I don’t quite understand - haven’t people been taking this as a preventative for malaria for many years? I know it is not the preferred antimalarial anymore because the side effects can be intense and there is some drug resistance to it in parts of Africa, but if it were that dangerous it wouldn’t be on the market.

Huh? There are plenty of drugs on the market with significant side effects. Plus, we have no idea how it works on people with coronavirus - may the side effects are more severe. Hence, the need for trials.

I was responding to the PP who said that taking too much could kill you. That doesn’t seem to be a fact. While too much of anything (even Tylenol) can kill you, my point is that if it were that dangerous as in a slightly off dosage could kill you, this wouldn’t be on the market for so many years. I literally said the side effects can be intense. But side effects usually don’t kill you, and it’s irresponsible to say that just because you have Coronavirus they might. No one knows that.

“Nigeria reported two cases of chloroquine poisoning after U.S. President Donald Trump praised the anti-malaria drug as a treatment for the novel coronavirus.

Health officials are warning Nigerians against self-medicating after demand for the drug surged in Lagos, a city that’s home to 20 million people. Two people were hospitalized in Lagos for chloroquine overdoses, Oreoluwa Finnih, senior health assistant to the governor of Lagos, said in an interview.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-21/nigeria-reports-chloroquine-poisonings-after-trump-praised-drug

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have to be really careful about how much to take. Just a little bit too much could kill you. Plus you have to take it with Azithromyacin.

I don’t quite understand - haven’t people been taking this as a preventative for malaria for many years? I know it is not the preferred antimalarial anymore because the side effects can be intense and there is some drug resistance to it in parts of Africa, but if it were that dangerous it wouldn’t be on the market.

Huh? There are plenty of drugs on the market with significant side effects. Plus, we have no idea how it works on people with coronavirus - may the side effects are more severe. Hence, the need for trials.

I was responding to the PP who said that taking too much could kill you. That doesn’t seem to be a fact. While too much of anything (even Tylenol) can kill you, my point is that if it were that dangerous as in a slightly off dosage could kill you, this wouldn’t be on the market for so many years. I literally said the side effects can be intense. But side effects usually don’t kill you, and it’s irresponsible to say that just because you have Coronavirus they might. No one knows that.

“Nigeria reported two cases of chloroquine poisoning after U.S. President Donald Trump praised the anti-malaria drug as a treatment for the novel coronavirus.

Health officials are warning Nigerians against self-medicating after demand for the drug surged in Lagos, a city that’s home to 20 million people. Two people were hospitalized in Lagos for chloroquine overdoses, Oreoluwa Finnih, senior health assistant to the governor of Lagos, said in an interview.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-21/nigeria-reports-chloroquine-poisonings-after-trump-praised-drug

this whole article is garbage. two people in nigeria overdosing on some drug is not news. more people in the US overdose overdose on painkillers every hour.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am listening to a radio interview about this now. A doctor in NY was saying that he has given it to 375+ patients in New York and and they have all recovered.

Dear God.

Are we on the verge of a breakthrough?

Short answer: no. Long answer: also no.

and you know this based on what?

DP.

Most people recover, so this drug may or may not have made a difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have to be really careful about how much to take. Just a little bit too much could kill you. Plus you have to take it with Azithromyacin.

Great. So, give it in the right dose with azithromyacin. I can promise you that if one of my loved ones comes down with this, I will move heaven and earth to get this drug to them.

No one knows what “the right dose” is without it being studied. And taken together they can increase the risk of fatal cardiac arrhythmia.

This was one tiny study that started with 26 patients taking it and 16 in the control group. But the results included only 20 patients taking it. Because three patients were transferred to the ICU, one died, one withdrew due to nausea, and one left the hospital. These are the kind of results that warrant further testing, NOT that further giving a drug combo with possible heart and poisoning side effects to hundreds of thousands of people and tweeting about it to millions, instantly limiting the supply to the patients that actually need it.

please stop the fear mongering. the side effects and interaction of hydroxychloroquine are extremely well known and extensively studied. nobody is prescribing this for the heck of it.

YES THEY ARE, doctors and dentists are prescribing it for themselves and their friends and family members so they have it on hand. Now patients who have been relying on it for years can’t get it. Get it?

if this drug is so dangerous and ineffective i wonder why are all these DOCTORS hoarding it for themselves and their families?

[Anonymous]

This is what happens:
http://bannerhealth.mediaroom.com/trending-now-at-banner?item=122999

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am listening to a radio interview about this now. A doctor in NY was saying that he has given it to 375+ patients in New York and and they have all recovered.

Dear God.

Are we on the verge of a breakthrough?

Short answer: no. Long answer: also no.

and you know this based on what?

DP.

Most people recover, so this drug may or may not have made a difference.

where is your study showing it makes no difference?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is what happens:
http://bannerhealth.mediaroom.com/trending-now-at-banner?item=122999

big deal