Hydroxychloroquine

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
What are those conditions it treats and that are lifethreathening?


Lupus. Which is a horrible death.


1.Not all lupus is created equal.
2. Death from lupus.. not so much nowadays.
3 90% lupus patients lead normal lives.
4. While there is a litany of drugs that are equally great for lupus
there is nothing except hydroxycloroquine and chloroquine for CV
at this point, not counting plasma therapy.


Death from lupus isn’t common because people treat it with Rx drugs. But in the last six years, I lost two relatives and a non-related friend to it. All AA mothers who left kids under the age of 10 motherless.
Anonymous
Since when a study on 30 patients meant much to many..? Yet
They did not prove it DOES NOT WORK!

What’s the agenda?


“The report published by the Journal of Zhejiang University in China showed that patients who got the medicine didn’t fight off the new coronavirus more often than those who did not get the medicine.

The study involved just 30 patients. Of the 15 patients given the malaria drug, 13 tested negative for the coronavirus after a week of treatment. Of the 15 patients who didn’t get hydroxychloroquine, 14 tested negative for the virus.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-25/hydroxychloroquine-no-better-than-regular-covid-19-care-in-study
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
What are those conditions it treats and that are lifethreathening?


Lupus. Which is a horrible death.


1.Not all lupus is created equal.
2. Death from lupus.. not so much nowadays.
3 90% lupus patients lead normal lives.
4. While there is a litany of drugs that are equally great for lupus
there is nothing except hydroxycloroquine and chloroquine for CV
at this point, not counting plasma therapy.


There’s also scleroderma for which Hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil) is the most common treatment as well as being the most cost-effective. Scleroderma is another terrible way to die.

Plaquenil is proven by countless studies to save the lives of Lupus and Scleroderma patients. NOT proven to cure COVID 19.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
What are those conditions it treats and that are lifethreathening?


Lupus. Which is a horrible death.


1.Not all lupus is created equal.
2. Death from lupus.. not so much nowadays.
3 90% lupus patients lead normal lives.
4. While there is a litany of drugs that are equally great for lupus
there is nothing except hydroxycloroquine and chloroquine for CV
at this point, not counting plasma therapy.


Death from lupus isn’t common because people treat it with Rx drugs. But in the last six years, I lost two relatives and a non-related friend to it. All AA mothers who left kids under the age of 10 motherless.



I am sorry for your loss. However many other drugs work for lupus.
If those people died, regardless taking drugs and so young
Either treat ent was wrong, the meds were wrong or their condition
Was wery rare. This is neither typical or kills as fast.
Anonymous
For me, This isn’t about denying a lifesaving treatment for Coronavirus patients. If it works, by all means, send it to the hospitals in need.

But doctors should not be writing bullshit prescriptions for it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Since when a study on 30 patients meant much to many..? Yet
They did not prove it DOES NOT WORK!

What’s the agenda?


“The report published by the Journal of Zhejiang University in China showed that patients who got the medicine didn’t fight off the new coronavirus more often than those who did not get the medicine.

The study involved just 30 patients. Of the 15 patients given the malaria drug, 13 tested negative for the coronavirus after a week of treatment. Of the 15 patients who didn’t get hydroxychloroquine, 14 tested negative for the virus.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-25/hydroxychloroquine-no-better-than-regular-covid-19-care-in-study

The only “study“ that suggests that it DOES WORK was the French one which only had 20 patients - it started with 26 but they threw six of them out, three of those ended up in the ICU anyway and one died. Why is that gospel enough to deny people with lupus and scleroderma their proven lifesaving drugs? What are you people on?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
What are those conditions it treats and that are lifethreathening?


Lupus. Which is a horrible death.


1.Not all lupus is created equal.
2. Death from lupus.. not so much nowadays.
3 90% lupus patients lead normal lives.
4. While there is a litany of drugs that are equally great for lupus
there is nothing except hydroxycloroquine and chloroquine for CV
at this point, not counting plasma therapy.


Death from lupus isn’t common because people treat it with Rx drugs. But in the last six years, I lost two relatives and a non-related friend to it. All AA mothers who left kids under the age of 10 motherless.



I am sorry for your loss. However many other drugs work for lupus.
If those people died, regardless taking drugs and so young
Either treat ent was wrong, the meds were wrong or their condition
Was wery rare. This is neither typical or kills as fast.


Do you really feel like now is the time for someone with a life-threatening auto immune condition to hunt around to find another drug because of the slimmest possibility that the one they know works will save someone else? How do you suggest my mom, who is self-isolating get to a doctor and start a trial run of something else?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since when a study on 30 patients meant much to many..? Yet
They did not prove it DOES NOT WORK!

What’s the agenda?


“The report published by the Journal of Zhejiang University in China showed that patients who got the medicine didn’t fight off the new coronavirus more often than those who did not get the medicine.

The study involved just 30 patients. Of the 15 patients given the malaria drug, 13 tested negative for the coronavirus after a week of treatment. Of the 15 patients who didn’t get hydroxychloroquine, 14 tested negative for the virus.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-25/hydroxychloroquine-no-better-than-regular-covid-19-care-in-study

The only “study“ that suggests that it DOES WORK was the French one which only had 20 patients - it started with 26 but they threw six of them out, three of those ended up in the ICU anyway and one died. Why is that gospel enough to deny people with lupus and scleroderma their proven lifesaving drugs? What are you people on?


that study had 20 patients in one condition. there was a control + 2 experimental conditions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since when a study on 30 patients meant much to many..? Yet
They did not prove it DOES NOT WORK!

What’s the agenda?


“The report published by the Journal of Zhejiang University in China showed that patients who got the medicine didn’t fight off the new coronavirus more often than those who did not get the medicine.

The study involved just 30 patients. Of the 15 patients given the malaria drug, 13 tested negative for the coronavirus after a week of treatment. Of the 15 patients who didn’t get hydroxychloroquine, 14 tested negative for the virus.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-25/hydroxychloroquine-no-better-than-regular-covid-19-care-in-study

The only “study“ that suggests that it DOES WORK was the French one which only had 20 patients - it started with 26 but they threw six of them out, three of those ended up in the ICU anyway and one died. Why is that gospel enough to deny people with lupus and scleroderma their proven lifesaving drugs? What are you people on?


that study had 20 patients in one condition. there was a control + 2 experimental conditions.


It does not work but hey keep going on and on about it being a miracle cure. Maybe you should head down to the hardest hit hospitals and tell the doctors about it? You fox peopel are unbelievable!
Anonymous
If it worked, we would know by now.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think I'd rather have COVID-19 than take chloroquine again. I took it for malaria prophylaxis in the early 90s and had to stop after 6 weeks. I had terrifying nightmares that were so real that I didn't know I was dreaming and the nightmares got worse the longer I was on it.


Hmmmm let me think it through...

nightmares......death
nightmares......death
nightmares.......death

NIGHTMARES ANYTIME!!!!!


Yep I was thinking the same thing!
Especially since this treatment isn't needed long term for COVID19.
I'll take terrible nightmares if it means I can live and breathe


DP.

I will too but you have to be careful not to downplay the potential side effects. I have permanent ringing in ears from taking chloroquine. I have other pretty severe chronic conditions that can be associated with chloroquine.

Just know that nightmares should be the least of your worries as far as side effects are concerned.

Again, I will take chloroquine if I were in dire conditions. I will not take it as a preventive measure. Absolutely not!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think I'd rather have COVID-19 than take chloroquine again. I took it for malaria prophylaxis in the early 90s and had to stop after 6 weeks. I had terrifying nightmares that were so real that I didn't know I was dreaming and the nightmares got worse the longer I was on it.


Hmmmm let me think it through...

nightmares......death
nightmares......death
nightmares.......death

NIGHTMARES ANYTIME!!!!!


Yep I was thinking the same thing!
Especially since this treatment isn't needed long term for COVID19.
I'll take terrible nightmares if it means I can live and breathe


DP.

I will too but you have to be careful not to downplay the potential side effects. I have permanent ringing in ears from taking chloroquine. I have other pretty severe chronic conditions that can be associated with chloroquine.

Just know that nightmares should be the least of your worries as far as side effects are concerned.

Again, I will take chloroquine if I were in dire conditions. I will not take it as a preventive measure. Absolutely not!


Not one medical professional has said it is indicated as a preventative measure.
The people who ingested fish tank cleaner as a way to prevent COVID19 were obviously not doing so with much understanding
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think I'd rather have COVID-19 than take chloroquine again. I took it for malaria prophylaxis in the early 90s and had to stop after 6 weeks. I had terrifying nightmares that were so real that I didn't know I was dreaming and the nightmares got worse the longer I was on it.


Hmmmm let me think it through...

nightmares......death
nightmares......death
nightmares.......death

NIGHTMARES ANYTIME!!!!!


Yep I was thinking the same thing!
Especially since this treatment isn't needed long term for COVID19.
I'll take terrible nightmares if it means I can live and breathe


DP.

I will too but you have to be careful not to downplay the potential side effects. I have permanent ringing in ears from taking chloroquine. I have other pretty severe chronic conditions that can be associated with chloroquine.

Just know that nightmares should be the least of your worries as far as side effects are concerned.

Again, I will take chloroquine if I were in dire conditions. I will not take it as a preventive measure. Absolutely not!


Not one medical professional has said it is indicated as a preventative measure.
The people who ingested fish tank cleaner as a way to prevent COVID19 were obviously not doing so with much understanding

There’s definitely speculation that the virus has not hit communities that are medicated for malaria as hard as others. But yes, not by medical professionals.
I found a really good summary of the whole chloroquine thing here:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-chloroquine-treat-coronavirus/
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am someone who needs the medicine but can’t get it right now. I’ve been taking a half dose and hoping it’s available in mid April when my pharmacy said they might get more in. I think it’s unethical that we’re making doctors fight this virus without the right tools. And so I’m not surprised they would justify their own unethical behavior at this time. But if it’s dentists or dermatologists or something, then that’s bad.


Perhaps you shouldn’t rely on one pharmacy?


Thanks for the tip. I spent half the day calling around, but that's really beside the point.


Have you tried an on-line Canadian pharmacy?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If it worked, we would know by now.


This!
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