UVA Jan 31

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Anonymous wrote:D-Day for nova moms (and dads) rapidly approaching. Mouths getting dry, pulses quickening, general twitchiness. Who will get the Willy Wonka orange and blue decal....and who will, after sober reflection, learn to mouth the line, “Virginia Tech is a fine school too....”. Gut check time, wannabes.

You do realize VA Tech engineering is better than UVA engineering, right?

Let's just not do this for the 100th time. There are so many threads that have beaten this topic like a dead horse.

You do you.

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Anonymous wrote:I had two kids go there. Such a great school and such a bargain in state. We're blessed.

Good luck!

Thank you for the good thoughts. We are in state.

Yea, it was great. We could hold our heads up high at cocktail parties talking about our kids at a fraction of the price that others were paying.

? My kid didn’t get into UVA so I usually hang my head in shame at cocktails parties.

Now, now, I'm sure you just talk up your "Colleges that Change Lives" college.

Truly, there is no reason to be an a-hole.

PP was responding to the "hold our heads up high" comment, which is bizarre.

So question I have is when at cocktail parties, what happens if other parents' kids go to an ivy or a higher-ranked US News school? My wife frowns on state schools. Saying a lot of riff raff.

I hear what you're saying. But unless you're super rich and super snobby, you're not gonna think that way. My Ivy League educated law partners, for example, "get" UVA and would be happy and proud to have their kids go there. They'd be sheepish about a CTCL school though. They definitely wouldn't be proud.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am OP and don't need to justify but here you go on one of their sites:

https://alumni.virginia.edu/admission/admission-liaison-program/admission-basics/early-decision/

Okay so that was put out well before they knew how many apps they would get. I'm sure they would love to give EA applicants a decision as soon as possible and move onto RD applicants, but they are still reading the files. There were 25000 EA applicants (though that number may go down if some were not fully completed). There are 3750 spots. They have to go through these apps with a fine toothed comb to select who will get in. Let them take their time and they will announce when they are ready. I would not be surprised if it goes past Feb 15.


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Wow, you're right, 25,063 for EA and 2,157 for ED for a total so far of 27,000+ applications and we haven't even hit the RD applications. But those 3750 slots have to allow for the ED and RD students. If all the 2157 EDs show up (3750 - 2157), that leaves only 1593 slots, not 3750, and a good portion of those 1593 slots have to be left for the RD pool. Or do I have something wrong?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am OP and don't need to justify but here you go on one of their sites:

https://alumni.virginia.edu/admission/admission-liaison-program/admission-basics/early-decision/

Okay so that was put out well before they knew how many apps they would get. I'm sure they would love to give EA applicants a decision as soon as possible and move onto RD applicants, but they are still reading the files. There were 25000 EA applicants (though that number may go down if some were not fully completed). There are 3750 spots. They have to go through these apps with a fine toothed comb to select who will get in. Let them take their time and they will announce when they are ready. I would not be surprised if it goes past Feb 15.


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Wow, you're right, 25,063 for EA and 2,157 for ED for a total so far of 27,000+ applications and we haven't even hit the RD applications. But those 3750 slots have to allow for the ED and RD students. If all the 2157 EDs show up (3750 - 2157), that leaves only 1593 slots, not 3750, and a good portion of those 1593 slots have to be left for the RD pool. Or do I have something wrong?

Same poster as above but just read elsewhere that I had a figure wrong. So 2159 applied for UVA ED, 841 were denied whichleaves 1318 ED accepted. So if the class is 3750 and all the accepted 1318 EDs show up that leaves 2432 seats, not 3750 spots. And they still have to save seats for the RD round . . . so not all 2832 will go to EA.

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You are forgetting about the deferrals. From the Dean J blog

Early Decision Applications
Total number of Early Decision applications: 2,159
Total number of VA apps: 1,165
Total number of OOS apps: 994
We use completed applications in our statistics.

Early Decision Offers
Overall offers: 748
Total VA offers: 466 (40% offer rate)
Total OOS offers: 282 (28% offer rate)
Enrollment Goal: ~3,750
This means 20% of the class will have come from the Early Decision round.

It's misleading to average these offer rates together because residency is a major factor in our review. If you are going to share these numbers, cite BOTH offer rates.

Early Decision Defers
Overall defers: 570
Total VA defers: 334
Total OOS defers: 236
Deferred students are no long bound by Early Decision agreements. Read more about deferral here (this link is in all defer letters).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:D-Day for nova moms (and dads) rapidly approaching. Mouths getting dry, pulses quickening, general twitchiness. Who will get the Willy Wonka orange and blue decal....and who will, after sober reflection, learn to mouth the line, “Virginia Tech is a fine school too....”. Gut check time, wannabes.

You do realize VA Tech engineering is better than UVA engineering, right?

And ODU has better Marine Biology. So ODU is a better school right? Said nobody ever.

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3750-748 ED = 3002 Spots remaining for ED deferrals (570),
EA (25063) and RD (?)

They will admit more than they have spots for, but no one wants to end up with too many students and not enough housing. RD may be very small number of admits, or they play it safe with EA and keep the admit rate low to see how things shake out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:3750-748 ED = 3002 Spots remaining for ED deferrals (570),
EA (25063) and RD (?)

They will admit more than they have spots for, but no one wants to end up with too many students and not enough housing. RD may be very small number of admits, or they play it safe with EA and keep the admit rate low to see how things shake out

They have kept 80 percent of their slots open for EA and RD. 20 percent went to ED. Been reported. They kept in state ED rate around 40 percent which is their normal admission rate. I think like 39. Figure more apps competing for 20 percent less slots, admission rate will probably closer to 33-35 percent in state. Just reading tea leaves again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:3750-748 ED = 3002 Spots remaining for ED deferrals (570),
EA (25063) and RD (?)

They will admit more than they have spots for, but no one wants to end up with too many students and not enough housing. RD may be very small number of admits, or they play it safe with EA and keep the admit rate low to see how things shake out

They have kept 80 percent of their slots open for EA and RD. 20 percent went to ED. Been reported. They kept in state ED rate around 40 percent which is their normal admission rate. I think like 39. Figure more apps competing for 20 percent less slots, admission rate will probably closer to 33-35 percent in state. Just reading tea leaves again.

I think you also have to consider that the 35-ish rate is an average, and there are different rates for legacies & non-legacies. Isn’t the admit rate for legacies roughly double that of non-legacies? That’s what I’ve always heard.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:3750-748 ED = 3002 Spots remaining for ED deferrals (570),
EA (25063) and RD (?)

They will admit more than they have spots for, but no one wants to end up with too many students and not enough housing. RD may be very small number of admits, or they play it safe with EA and keep the admit rate low to see how things shake out

They have kept 80 percent of their slots open for EA and RD. 20 percent went to ED. Been reported. They kept in state ED rate around 40 percent which is their normal admission rate. I think like 39. Figure more apps competing for 20 percent less slots, admission rate will probably closer to 33-35 percent in state. Just reading tea leaves again.

I think you also have to consider that the 35-ish rate is an average, and there are different rates for legacies & non-legacies. Isn’t the admit rate for legacies roughly double that of non-legacies? That’s what I’ve always heard.

You would think that they get in ED though, no?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:3750-748 ED = 3002 Spots remaining for ED deferrals (570),
EA (25063) and RD (?)

They will admit more than they have spots for, but no one wants to end up with too many students and not enough housing. RD may be very small number of admits, or they play it safe with EA and keep the admit rate low to see how things shake out

They have kept 80 percent of their slots open for EA and RD. 20 percent went to ED. Been reported. They kept in state ED rate around 40 percent which is their normal admission rate. I think like 39. Figure more apps competing for 20 percent less slots, admission rate will probably closer to 33-35 percent in state. Just reading tea leaves again.

I think you also have to consider that the 35-ish rate is an average, and there are different rates for legacies & non-legacies. Isn’t the admit rate for legacies roughly double that of non-legacies? That’s what I’ve always heard.

https://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2018/07/legacy-applicants-admitted-to-at-nearly-two-times-the-rate-of-non-legacies-in-2018
But legacy includes a lot more in-state and we don't know the rate for in-state legacy and out of state legacy.

Nearly 47 percent of legacy applicants received an offer in the most recent round of applications. In the same period, only a little over 25 percent of non-legacy applicants were offered admission — making the process almost two times as difficult for students whose parents did not attend the University.

[Anonymous]

That same article points out that (1) only 5 percent of all applicants are legacies and (2) legacy applicants have higher SAT scores and grades than typical applicants. So let's not make too much of this.

[Anonymous]

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I hear what you're saying. But unless you're super rich and super snobby, you're not gonna think that way. My Ivy League educated law partners, for example, "get" UVA and would be happy and proud to have their kids go there. They'd be sheepish about a CTCL school though. They definitely wouldn't be proud.

As someone originally from VA who has been away from the area for a while, the extent to which UVA grads feel that their school is such a point of pride is... startling.

I'm delighted that people are so happy about their school, but throwing shade on a whole bunch of schools because you went to UVA? Like, big state school UVA? Really? I HYPS folks are kinda supposed to be pricks, but of all the ways that you guys could imitate your academic betters THIS is what you choose?

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Anonymous wrote:I had two kids go there. Such a great school and such a bargain in state. We're blessed.

Good luck!

Thank you for the good thoughts. We are in state.

Yea, it was great. We could hold our heads up high at cocktail parties talking about our kids at a fraction of the price that others were paying.

? My kid didn’t get into UVA so I usually hang my head in shame at cocktails parties.

Now, now, I'm sure you just talk up your "Colleges that Change Lives" college.

Truly, there is no reason to be an a-hole.

PP was responding to the "hold our heads up high" comment, which is bizarre.

So question I have is when at cocktail parties, what happens if other parents' kids go to an ivy or a higher-ranked US News school? My wife frowns on state schools. Saying a lot of riff raff.

I hear what you're saying. But unless you're super rich and super snobby, you're not gonna think that way. My Ivy League educated law partners, for example, "get" UVA and would be happy and proud to have their kids go there. They'd be sheepish about a CTCL school though. They definitely wouldn't be proud.

That's an odd sentiment. Big law partners generally don't care that much about college - if you want to Harvard undergrad and then a step down for law, all they care about is the law school. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:I had two kids go there. Such a great school and such a bargain in state. We're blessed.

Good luck!

Thank you for the good thoughts. We are in state.

Yea, it was great. We could hold our heads up high at cocktail parties talking about our kids at a fraction of the price that others were paying.

? My kid didn’t get into UVA so I usually hang my head in shame at cocktails parties.

Now, now, I'm sure you just talk up your "Colleges that Change Lives" college.

Truly, there is no reason to be an a-hole.

PP was responding to the "hold our heads up high" comment, which is bizarre.

So question I have is when at cocktail parties, what happens if other parents' kids go to an ivy or a higher-ranked US News school? My wife frowns on state schools. Saying a lot of riff raff.

I hear what you're saying. But unless you're super rich and super snobby, you're not gonna think that way. My Ivy League educated law partners, for example, "get" UVA and would be happy and proud to have their kids go there. They'd be sheepish about a CTCL school though. They definitely wouldn't be proud.

That's an odd sentiment. Big law partners generally don't care that much about college - if you want to Harvard undergrad and then a step down for law, all they care about is the law school. Period.

Big law partners may not care where other lawyers went to college, but they sure do care about where their own kids go to college.