Mary Cheh has turned Cleveland Park/Cleveland Park North into her personal political asset

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*Who’ve lived in the area

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster who grew up nearby who would have supported a pool. A ton of nice trees have been cut down. There is no denying that. The neighborhood is also losing the gentler sledding hill.

What sledding hill is lost?

The gentle one off near Quebec street that ended at the tennis courts. It was my favorite growing up - the one closer to the school is steep and fast and uncomfortable when you land.

It's maybe 60-70 feet between the street and the tennis courts - it's not even the length of one of the adjacent tennis courts and it had a mix of trees and bushes in it until a few months ago - I find it hard to believe too many people ever sledded there.

They didn't. Anyone in the neighborhood knows to go to Battery Kimble or Tregaron to sled.

I’ve lived in the neighborhood for decades. People absolutely sled on the gentle hill. Tregaron is more than a mile away and Battery Kimble is over near Sibley hospital!! Kids who live near Hearst aren’t going over to those places to sled on their own. Now, I think a pool trumps that, but stop lying. A sledding hill will be lost and many trees were cut down. It’s insulting and polarizing to lie to people who know you aren’t telling the truth.

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I have probably lived in the neighborhood longer than you (yes decades) and everyone goes to Tregaron. No one over about the age of 4 might have used that hill.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster who grew up nearby who would have supported a pool. A ton of nice trees have been cut down. There is no denying that. The neighborhood is also losing the gentler sledding hill.

What sledding hill is lost?

The gentle one off near Quebec street that ended at the tennis courts. It was my favorite growing up - the one closer to the school is steep and fast and uncomfortable when you land.

It's maybe 60-70 feet between the street and the tennis courts - it's not even the length of one of the adjacent tennis courts and it had a mix of trees and bushes in it until a few months ago - I find it hard to believe too many people ever sledded there.

They didn't. Anyone in the neighborhood knows to go to Battery Kimble or Tregaron to sled.

I’ve lived in the neighborhood for decades. People absolutely sled on the gentle hill. Tregaron is more than a mile away and Battery Kimble is over near Sibley hospital!! Kids who live near Hearst aren’t going over to those places to sled on their own. Now, I think a pool trumps that, but stop lying. A sledding hill will be lost and many trees were cut down. It’s insulting and polarizing to lie to people who know you aren’t telling the truth.

Look if you say so but it is still hard for me to believe - I live too far away to bother going there after a snow storm but have been a regular at the park for most of the last decade for soccer and the space between the street and the tennis courts is very small and is largely filled with bushes and trees so it is very hard to figure where or why someone would sled there particularly when the hill on the opposite side of the soccer field is at least clear of any vegetation.

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You don’t even realize what hill I am talking about. I’m not talking about the hill between Quebec and the tennis courts that used to be filled with trees to which you refer. Of course no one sleds there. I’m talking about the hill between Idaho and the tennis back board. The hill at the other end of the park is riskier and scarier and steeper and very jerky when you land.

Tregaron is really far from that part of the neighborhood and now has “no sledding” signs up.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t even realize what hill I am talking about. I’m not talking about the hill between Quebec and the tennis courts that used to be filled with trees to which you refer. Of course no one sleds there. I’m talking about the hill between Idaho and the tennis back board. The hill at the other end of the park is riskier and scarier and steeper and very jerky when you land.

Tregaron is really far from that part of the neighborhood and now has “no sledding” signs up.

They actually don't care if anyone sleds (i mean, if there is ever snow again) - signs like that are posted for liability reasons.

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I have just taken up tennis. Will there still be free, public courts at Hearst?

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I have to say, I like the re-do at Turtle Park EXCEPT the kids water feature. It's lame and poorly maintained (the mosaic tiling is coming up, which presents a danger for little feet). It makes me concerned for this pool.

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Anonymous wrote:Cleveland Park folk are so incredibly entitled. I’m liberal but I hate how so many liberals act like they care about others and about helping folks at the bottom until it hits too close to home. If I lived next to the pool I wouldn’t be thrilled but it is only open for a few months. Stop trying to act like your opposition is for the greater good.

How is it entitled to be appalled at the excessive tree removal? DC has one of the highest incidents of childhood asthma in the nation (despite no industry) and yet the DC government is removing hundreds of oxygen-creating trees from an established public park?? The closest that I've heard to "entitlement" was the argument that Ward 3 was entitled to its own public pool, despite the availability of public pools in the general area. Ward 3 has the highest per capita income in the city, so how is a Ward 3 pool all about "helping folks at the bottom"? I will use a pool at Hearst, but now that all of the trees are removed I do feel for the close-by neighbors. Instead of greenery, with no more tree screening, they will now look out an an expanse of concrete that will be lit up all year all night like I-395.

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Hearst Park:

Bulldozed by Bowser. Clear-cut by Cheh.

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Anonymous wrote:Cleveland Park folk are so incredibly entitled. I’m liberal but I hate how so many liberals act like they care about others and about helping folks at the bottom until it hits too close to home. If I lived next to the pool I wouldn’t be thrilled but it is only open for a few months. Stop trying to act like your opposition is for the greater good.

How is it entitled to be appalled at the excessive tree removal? DC has one of the highest incidents of childhood asthma in the nation (despite no industry) and yet the DC government is removing hundreds of oxygen-creating trees from an established public park?? The closest that I've heard to "entitlement" was the argument that Ward 3 was entitled to its own public pool, despite the availability of public pools in the general area. Ward 3 has the highest per capita income in the city, so how is a Ward 3 pool all about "helping folks at the bottom"? I will use a pool at Hearst, but now that all of the trees are removed I do feel for the close-by neighbors. Instead of greenery, with no more tree screening, they will now look out an an expanse of concrete that will be lit up all year all night like I-395.

OMG really?

Are there are a lot of kids in Cleveland Park with asthma?

Hopefully despite being clueless you realize the biggest reason cities have higher asthma rates is because of emissions from cars from people driving everywhere? And enabling people to go to a pool in their own neighborhood will reduce the amount of driving that they do?

Since you are such an advocate for air quality you don't drive and take public transportation everywhere right? And have been fighting for car free dense residential housing in Cleveland Park?

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Anonymous wrote:Cleveland Park folk are so incredibly entitled. I’m liberal but I hate how so many liberals act like they care about others and about helping folks at the bottom until it hits too close to home. If I lived next to the pool I wouldn’t be thrilled but it is only open for a few months. Stop trying to act like your opposition is for the greater good.

How is it entitled to be appalled at the excessive tree removal? DC has one of the highest incidents of childhood asthma in the nation (despite no industry) and yet the DC government is removing hundreds of oxygen-creating trees from an established public park?? The closest that I've heard to "entitlement" was the argument that Ward 3 was entitled to its own public pool, despite the availability of public pools in the general area. Ward 3 has the highest per capita income in the city, so how is a Ward 3 pool all about "helping folks at the bottom"? I will use a pool at Hearst, but now that all of the trees are removed I do feel for the close-by neighbors. Instead of greenery, with no more tree screening, they will now look out an an expanse of concrete that will be lit up all year all night like I-395.

OMG really?

Are there are a lot of kids in Cleveland Park with asthma?

Hopefully despite being clueless you realize the biggest reason cities have higher asthma rates is because of emissions from cars from people driving everywhere? And enabling people to go to a pool in their own neighborhood will reduce the amount of driving that they do?

Since you are such an advocate for air quality you don't drive and take public transportation everywhere right? And have been fighting for car free dense residential housing in Cleveland Park?

Cutting tree is good for air quality? Either you are a low IQ type or you think posting stupid ideas on message boards is humorous.

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Anonymous wrote:I have just taken up tennis. Will there still be free, public courts at Hearst?

UDC, Behind the police station, Chesapeake and Connecticut, Livingstone and 41st, Ft Reno, Turtle Park. Lafayette.

18 courts within 5 minutes that are free of charge and almost never in use.

Have at it!

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Anonymous wrote:I have just taken up tennis. Will there still be free, public courts at Hearst?

UDC, Behind the police station, Chesapeake and Connecticut, Livingstone and 41st, Ft Reno, Turtle Park. Lafayette.

18 courts within 5 minutes that are free of charge and almost never in use.

Have at it!

I didn't realize UDC had public courts. Thanks for the list., I will. Does this mean no tennis at hearst? I was planning to walk there...

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Anonymous wrote:Cleveland Park folk are so incredibly entitled. I’m liberal but I hate how so many liberals act like they care about others and about helping folks at the bottom until it hits too close to home. If I lived next to the pool I wouldn’t be thrilled but it is only open for a few months. Stop trying to act like your opposition is for the greater good.

How is it entitled to be appalled at the excessive tree removal? DC has one of the highest incidents of childhood asthma in the nation (despite no industry) and yet the DC government is removing hundreds of oxygen-creating trees from an established public park?? The closest that I've heard to "entitlement" was the argument that Ward 3 was entitled to its own public pool, despite the availability of public pools in the general area. Ward 3 has the highest per capita income in the city, so how is a Ward 3 pool all about "helping folks at the bottom"? I will use a pool at Hearst, but now that all of the trees are removed I do feel for the close-by neighbors. Instead of greenery, with no more tree screening, they will now look out an an expanse of concrete that will be lit up all year all night like I-395.

OMG really?

Are there are a lot of kids in Cleveland Park with asthma?

Hopefully despite being clueless you realize the biggest reason cities have higher asthma rates is because of emissions from cars from people driving everywhere? And enabling people to go to a pool in their own neighborhood will reduce the amount of driving that they do?

Since you are such an advocate for air quality you don't drive and take public transportation everywhere right? And have been fighting for car free dense residential housing in Cleveland Park?

Cutting tree is good for air quality? Either you are a low IQ type or you think posting stupid ideas on message boards is humorous.

Maybe people in Cleveland Park really are stupid and clueless.

Trees are great - Cleveland Park has lots of trees and I bet next to no one suffering from asthma.

To the extent that you care there is not really a consensus about why asthma rates are higher in poorer dense urban areas though there is a lot of suspicion that poor air quality is a major contributing factor something that the number of trees in leafy Cleveland Park will have no impact on but affluent Cleveland Park residents driving their imported SUV's into less affluent neighborhoods probably will.