Pomona

[Anonymous]

Face it. You are all jealous if Grinnell.

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Anonymous wrote:I have never really understood why anyone goes there because, if you have the grades and all, why not go to a bigger school that people have actually heard of? What’s the appeal? I’m stumped.

My kid went to Bowdoin so it was a similar scenario. My immigrant relatives actually couldn't believe my bright kid was going to go to this school they had never heard of - until they started asking the other senior partners and coworkers. My kid wanted a small to medium school, with a town, a good campus and strong academics. Bowdoin was all that. There were things that my kid didn't like about their time there but academics were strong and there are lifelong friends. Kid ended up going to an ivy grad school and people recognize that name just fine.

Bowdoin is no Pomona. Not in the same league.

No dog in this fight, but Bowdoin is definitely in the same league.

In what parallel universe?

I have to also ask: what criteria are used to to make that determination. Under the USN criteria,

Pomona is #5 and Bowdoin #6.

So unless the primary criteria is "the weather", or referring to NESCAC vs SCIAC, then yes, Bowdoin and Pomona are absolutely, positively in the same league.

not historically. and no serious person thinks so.

Yes, historically. And yes, every serious person thinks so, which is why you claim you do not.

+1 Bowdoin graduates include Longfellow, Nathaniel Hawthorne, Admiral Peary, and a US president (even if it is Franklin Pierce). It’s been an extremely prestigious academic institution for a very, very long time.

I think you know that "Fainting" Franklin Pierce is not a well regarded president. His sympathy for pro-slavery groups pushed the nation to the Civil War. Not a fan.

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Anonymous wrote:I have never really understood why anyone goes there because, if you have the grades and all, why not go to a bigger school that people have actually heard of? What’s the appeal? I’m stumped.

My kid went to Bowdoin so it was a similar scenario. My immigrant relatives actually couldn't believe my bright kid was going to go to this school they had never heard of - until they started asking the other senior partners and coworkers. My kid wanted a small to medium school, with a town, a good campus and strong academics. Bowdoin was all that. There were things that my kid didn't like about their time there but academics were strong and there are lifelong friends. Kid ended up going to an ivy grad school and people recognize that name just fine.

Bowdoin is no Pomona. Not in the same league.

No dog in this fight, but Bowdoin is definitely in the same league.

In what parallel universe?

I have to also ask: what criteria are used to to make that determination. Under the USN criteria,

Pomona is #5 and Bowdoin #6.

So unless the primary criteria is "the weather", or referring to NESCAC vs SCIAC, then yes, Bowdoin and Pomona are absolutely, positively in the same league.

not historically. and no serious person thinks so.

Yes, historically. And yes, every serious person thinks so, which is why you claim you do not.

+1 Bowdoin graduates include Longfellow, Nathaniel Hawthorne, Admiral Peary, and a US president (even if it is Franklin Pierce). It’s been an extremely prestigious academic institution for a very, very long time.

I think you know that "Fainting" Franklin Pierce is not a well regarded president. His sympathy for pro-slavery groups pushed the nation to the Civil War. Not a fan.

Yeah maybe you did not read the PP's post so well.

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Anonymous wrote:I have never really understood why anyone goes there because, if you have the grades and all, why not go to a bigger school that people have actually heard of? What’s the appeal? I’m stumped.

Anyone who matters has heard of Pomona. Believe it or not, for many of us, we don’t care what schools Joe Schmoe has heard of or if the people on the Beltway will be impressed by a Pomona sticker.

I know many people who have never heard of Pomona. They matter, you elitist snob.

No one in a position to a hire a Pomona grad for a job hasn’t heard of Pomona

Does this include fast food restaurants?

Ha ha ha you make joke, that Pomona guy can only get fast food jobs ‘cause the school is a bad school! You are so funny!

PP really ought to go into comedy or audition for SNL with that level of wit.

I’ve been told. But it was really just a throw away line.

And you should have thrown it away.

Nah, I still highly doubt that fast food hiring managers are aware of Pomona. In this area, for example, they are much more likely to have heard of George Mason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son was the valedictorian of his high school. His guidance counselor started telling us about Pomona his junior year as a likely great fit school. Ultimately, we exercised parental discretion and limited him to applying to schools on the East Coast, but by all accounts Pomona is up there among LACs with Williams & Amherst.

Indeed.

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Anonymous wrote:Face it. You are all jealous if Grinnell.

Maybe Bowdoin is.

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Pomona is like the west coast Swarthmore.

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Anonymous wrote:CMC grad, so while I find most Pomona grads insufferable, I can comment on the "everyone who matters knows it" thing vs. other larger schools, which I have absolutely found to be true. People in a position to hire grads are very familiar with these schools and their quality.

Further, I've found that schools or this size create a deeper network you can call on for life... If I reach out to someone who went to CMC (or frankly any of the 5Cs) on linkedin, I have basically a 100% response rate. There's a built in connection there to other folks who briefly lived in Claremont. I assume the same thing happens in other small schools, but what's cool about the claremont colleges is that the alumni network between all of them is pretty huge and diverse.

My husband went to UVA and "oh I went to UVA too" does not create nearly the same personal connections.

I agree with this (also a CMC grad.) If a CMC grad reaches out to me for help- I respond. If a law school alum reaches out to me for help (top 14 law school) I might respond or I might blow it off depending on how busy I am. It's not the same connection as CMC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pomona is like the west coast Swarthmore.

Nope. Too professional. Closer to the West Coast Amherst or Williams.
Carleton is the Midwest Swarthmore.

[Anonymous]

Pomona parent here. Pomona is far more diverse than East Coast liberal arts schools. Students are highly intelligent and accomplished. The Consortium offers a multitude of classes, clubs, activities, food options, etc. Many students receive fellowships and most go to top grad schools. It is a very special place.

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Anonymous wrote:Pomona parent here. Pomona is far more diverse than East Coast liberal arts schools. Students are highly intelligent and accomplished. The Consortium offers a multitude of classes, clubs, activities, food options, etc. Many students receive fellowships and most go to top grad schools. It is a very special place.

Swarthmore is more diverse.

[Anonymous]

Why rank or compare them? Swarthmore, Pomona, Williams, Amherst, CMC -- all great liberal arts colleges. A student who wants a LAC would be fortunate to attend any of them.

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Anonymous wrote:Why rank or compare them? Swarthmore, Pomona, Williams, Amherst, CMC -- all great liberal arts colleges. A student who wants a LAC would be fortunate to attend any of them.

Agreed. These and so many more.

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Pomona is 35% white, Swarthmore is 40% white.

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Anonymous wrote:Pomona is 35% white, Swarthmore is 40% white.

Pomona, Swarthmore, and Amherst are all highly diverse, and it's silly to argue otherwise.