Not turning in homework

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Anonymous wrote:It's interesting it hasn't really been a problem until now. I realize this may be like pulling teeth, but have you asked him for some ideas on what might be different about this year that's contributing to the situation? With my ds last year anyway it was sometimes truly forgetting then being embarrassed about handing it in late and sometimes I know he just opted not to do something because he didn't want to do it and the points weren't worth it. It's so frustrating. I did take pictures of some of his work, then started having him take pictures with his school ipad. I tried to stress that homework is not "done" until the teacher has recorded it and you see the score online, so you have to keep on it until that time. At least some of his teachers have the policy that they do not ask/remind kids to turn in the homework, it's on the kids to remember and put it in the homework basket.


If it is adhd, it’s actually not surprising at all that it’s happening suddenly at this point. Smart kids with adhd often find their own ways to cope and manage tasks like homework and turning it in. It works okay, until it doesn’t. For people with adhd, it’s a balancing act. We figure out a way to manage what’s on our plate, we juggle it as best we can, we know what has to be done and what we can let slide. But if you add one more thing, it could all collapse. (It reminds me of when Mr. Burns had 3 stooges syndrome on the simpsons https://youtu.be/aI0euMFAWF8) I know everyone feels like that sometimes, but imagine being a kid in middle school who feels like that every day. It’s pretty much all they’ve ever known so it’s their normal. Add in mom and dad being disappointed that they’re not living up to their potential. Then they go to high school. Social dynamics are more complicated. Classes are harder. Teachers expect more. Parents are disappointed that you’re not able to follow through with simple tasks. It all comes crashing down and you fail a class. It’s so overwhelming, you don’t even know how to ask for help because you don’t know what kind of help you need. It’s not that you’re not smart enough, you understand the material so tutoring won’t help. Mom and dad are more disappointed. You’re disappointed with yourself because you can’t even remember or gather the courage to turn in the work you did, and what’s the point anyway because you’re already failing? This is why so many kids with adhd have anxiety and/or depression. It sucks but it’s so treatable.

The PP whose brother didn’t have adhd made a great case for seeing a doctor. Posters who have adhd and parents of kids with adhd are suggesting it as an option because that’s such a common symptom of the disorder. It’s not an excuse. It’s just how the disorder works. It’s manageable. But we’re not doctors and we don’t know OP’s kid. PP is right, it might not be adhd. It could be something worse. That doesn’t mean ignore or sweep it under the rug. Instead it highlights the need to talk to a professional. And if there’s no diagnosis, if the doctor says your kid gets his jollies by doing work and not turning it in, you can still consider therapy to come up with a plan for behavior modification. Sometimes it helps to have a professional when you’re looking to make big life changes, even if there’s no diagnosis.


OP here, this is incredibly helpful, thank you.

Regarding the folks saying adhd, it's possible. I've toyed with having him tested in the past because of other things, but as this poster pointed out, he's always been very smart and managed just fine (identified gifted, honors classes, has made honor roll each year except last) so it didn't seem like someing we 'needed' to do (he does have an assessment appointment in a few weeks now though). Last year when this started to become a problem I did research on techniques that are used with kids with adhd and we started to employ those - the planner (tried both physical and one on his phone), one folder for all homework, reminders on his phone at the beginning of classes, but nothing really worked. Most of his teachers do not ask for it in class, it's just expected to be turned in (per back to school night), so it's on him to be responsible. We've even tried the 'responsibility' angle - if you're not responsible enough to turn in your homework you're not responsible enough to drive a car - but still not motivating enough. Part of me thinks he just doesn't care about the grades. He's always been an independent, strong, thoughtful kid, and when he feels he's being forced into something he pushes back, so there may be something to the defiance thing there too. Ultimately I think he'll be 'fine'. He'll end up with good enough grades to get into 'some' college (he had a C last year but the rest were As and Bs) it's just frustrating to see him limit his options over something so fixable.


I work in a medical school as a learning specialist and every year we have students who are finally diagnosed with ADHD. In medical school. Brilliant students can compensate for ADHD until the demands are ratcheted up to the point that they can no longer compensate. Wouldn't you rather have the information now rather than waiting until it gets worse for your son? If you suspect ADHD then get him tested. Kids with ADHD are doing the best they can, but they lack the executive function skills that their peers may have developed.
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Anonymous wrote:My brother was like this, he willingly refused to turn in his homework even after he had completed it and brought it to school. It was defiance. The teachers threatened him with Fs and he still refused. It wasn't ADHD. He eventually was asked to leave the public high school he was going to because he had all Fs (except for PE) and had to go to the alternative high school just to graduate. Same issues in college and he flunked out.

He had major mental health issues going on. I wouldn't necessarily sweep this under the rug as ADD or ADHD.


Your first paragraph makes it sound willful but then you acknowledge major mental health issues. It is likely that testing for ADD or ADHD would also help uncover if there are any other issues happening. These types of things often travel together.


My parents did have my brother tested, extensively. He doesn't have ADHD or ADD. He has a willful defiance disorder.


So it sounds like they did get a diagnosis.


So stop suggesting it has to be ADHD. Maybe, just maybe, something else is going on.


People are saying this is a common adhd feature, so she should go to the doctor and get a diagnosis. No one is handing out diagnoses or prescriptions on dcum. Isn’t the important thing that the kid gets a proper evaluation and treatment?
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