MD and DC have higher murder rates than VA, yet VA has more liberal gun laws ... explain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because urban areas have higher crime than rural areas (more people, more opportunity). MD and DC have more people living in an urban setting than VA.

We're not talking about absolute numbers.

Places like Chicago, Baltimore, and Detroit have some of the toughest gun laws, and have the highest crime rates. That's no coincidence.

You're right. The coincidence is that Chicago Baltimore and Detroit are surrounded by neighboring areas where it's super easy to get guns.

So whatever their problems are that promote violence, whether they be poverty, gangs whatever, they have easy access to guns from places that do not have strict gun laws. And therefore more GUN violence.

Gun laws in Chicago are meaningless if you can go next door and have an easy flow of guns into the city.

How do you not see this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because urban areas have higher crime than rural areas (more people, more opportunity). MD and DC have more people living in an urban setting than VA.

We're not talking about absolute numbers.

Places like Chicago, Baltimore, and Detroit have some of the toughest gun laws, and have the highest crime rates. That's no coincidence.

You're right. The coincidence is that Chicago Baltimore and Detroit are surrounded by neighboring areas where it's super easy to get guns.

So whatever their problems are that promote violence, whether they be poverty, gangs whatever, they have easy access to guns from places that do not have strict gun laws. And therefore more GUN violence.

Gun laws in Chicago are meaningless if you can go next door and have an easy flow of guns into the city.

How do you not see this?

So what do you suggest the process is for getting guns out of the hands of people that ALREADY HAVE THEM?

[Anonymous]

^ is that an honest question now, or we are just moving goal posts/deflecting? Because there are ways if there is a political will.

[Anonymous]

Ask people in VA Beach what they think. According to a recent article in their local paper, one of the HR staff (who was.shot.to death and leaves children behind) told her husband she was afraid of two men who were leaving that day. One ended up shooting the place up.

How many mass shootings have happened in MD and DC lately? Lots of.crime and individual shootings, just like Norfolk VA, but not many mass shootings, thank goodness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ is that an honest question now, or we are just moving goal posts/deflecting? Because there are ways if there is a political will.

It wasn an honest question, but your answer proves you’re hopeless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ is that an honest question now, or we are just moving goal posts/deflecting? Because there are ways if there is a political will.

It wasn an honest question, but your answer proves you’re hopeless.

Why an I hopeless? Because I distrust illogical people?

Here is a start. https://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/gun-violence/pages/recovery-strategies.aspx

Some of these work better than others. The major problems arei:

1. As long as guns are easily available in one place everybody will be able to get access to them in spite of lawa.

2. Guns are forever. They're not a technology that becomes obsolete. 1 gun can last decades.

Are any of these perfect solutions? No. Will we ever have 100% compliance. Absolutely not.

Does any of that mean we don't try? I tend to think no. We do try and we have a tangible reduction in violence and carnage if not a deletion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You're right. The coincidence is that Chicago Baltimore and Detroit are surrounded by neighboring areas where it's super easy to get guns.

How does that make sense when Maryland overall has a higher murder rate . It isn't just Baltimore, it is all the similar demographic zip codes between Maryland and Virginia where Maryland has a higher murder rate. If it were access to guns Virginia should have a higher murder rate, yet it is Maryland that does.

I think it is the lower time served for violent crime in Maryland. About 90% of murder is committed by prior criminals -- that is the main factor

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does any of that mean we don't try? I tend to think no. We do try and we have a tangible reduction in violence and carnage if not a deletion

It is fascinating that you do not know US gun murder and gun crime fell 52% overall in the past generation, it is less than half of what it was -- as guns increased. In fact not counting 40 high murder rate counties that are outliers (like Baltimore county) of the 3,000 US counties, the US gun murder rate fell 65%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Murder includes more than firearm deaths. They include knives, fist fights, other weapons, etc.

As it should, and Maryland is much more lethally violent. Guns reduce crime, all the studies show crimes prevented with guns out number those committed with them.

All comparisons of same region similar demographic states shows those with more gun control have more violent crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Murder includes more than firearm deaths. They include knives, fist fights, other weapons, etc.

As it should, and Maryland is much more lethally violent. Guns reduce crime, all the studies show crimes prevented with guns out number those committed with them.

All comparisons of same region similar demographic states shows those with more gun control have more violent crime.

Right on time- the “good guy with a gun” fallacy.

[Anonymous]

One simple explanation is that criminals in DC and Maryland can easily buy guns from Virginia due to its lax laws. Virginia is widely recognized by law enforcement as a major source for illegal trafficking of guns up and down the Northeast corridor. Only criminals need to fear gun control.

[Anonymous]

IT IS SO EASY TO GET A DL/ID FROM THE DMV EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT A RESIDENT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ask people in VA Beach what they think. According to a recent article in their local paper, one of the HR staff (who was.shot.to death and leaves children behind) told her husband she was afraid of two men who were leaving that day. One ended up shooting the place up.

How many mass shootings have happened in MD and DC lately? Lots of.crime and individual shootings, just like Norfolk VA, but not many mass shootings, thank goodness.

DC has about the same amount of Carnage in a weekend. Nice try tho. And a lot of the times it's small children shot in DC. Absolutely horrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One simple explanation is that criminals in DC and Maryland can easily buy guns from Virginia due to its lax laws. Virginia is widely recognized by law enforcement as a major source for illegal trafficking of guns up and down the Northeast corridor. Only criminals need to fear gun control.

Actually criminals don’t fear gun control at all.

They’re criminals. They’re perfectly ok with obtaining guns illegally. Just like they do now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Murder includes more than firearm deaths. They include knives, fist fights, other weapons, etc.

As it should, and Maryland is much more lethally violent. Guns reduce crime, all the studies show crimes prevented with guns out number those committed with them.

All comparisons of same region similar demographic states shows those with more gun control have more violent crime.

Right on time- the “good guy with a gun” fallacy.

The “good guy with a gun” has stopped so many shootings and would-be shootings that it’s a dead meme now.

Too bad you weren’t keeping up