Mothers like this are the issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.lovewhatmatters.com/id-like-to-publicly-apologize-to-our-red-robin-hostess-she-didnt-know-she-was-the-last-straw-mom-breaks-down-at-red-robin-after-dropping-off-son-at-college/

Completely irrational. Had she never been to dinner without him before? Will she never go to dinner without him again? It’s not like he’s dead and never coming back. This level of attachment isn’t healthy. It’s moms like this that are the issue.

She says it was literally "our first time out without our firstborn"

WTF? Like, never? Even when he was in high school?

Her kid is a college baseball player, which means her kid likely went to tournaments when he was in high school. And likely camps. What the heck did she do while he was at those?

Oh, I'm sure she went too. These sports parents never miss a damn game.

[Anonymous]

These are the type of people who buy those like-like newborn dolls and push them around in a stroller.

[Anonymous]

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Did you see the mother of the 22/24-year-old's with the Pinterest account focused on toddlers?

https://www.pinterest.com/divaviva/the-art-of-being-a-mom/

It's creepy. Do these women not have lives outside of their grown adult kids? Will they cease to exist with no children in their lives?


Wait. This is the mother of the Dayton shooter. The art of being a mom.


Wait waht??

Appears to be. Same last name, kids Connor and Megan. Both dead.

He evidently had a kill list and rape list of girls in his HS.

Disgusting. Parents that coddle their boys and raise them with a princely sense of entitlement... STOP DOING THIS. Your precious baby boy needs rules, punishments, boundaries, to be told "no" often. Clearly this mom was caught up in the fetishizing of her own perfect children.

It's not a great thing to do for girls either, but girls generally don't lash out and kill others. Boys and young men do. Loving your kids doesn't mean smothering them. You have to teach them how to deal with disappointment and rejection and failure.

Dads too, but I think a lot of dads shrug their shoulders and let mama bear do her smothering thing.

Mental health is a lot more complicated than just issuing more punishments and no’s. In some cases, that could make their mental health worse.

I disagree. The lack of healthy boundaries during childhood most definitely can contribute to mental illness. So can environmental stress in the home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Did you see the mother of the 22/24-year-old's with the Pinterest account focused on toddlers?

https://www.pinterest.com/divaviva/the-art-of-being-a-mom/

It's creepy. Do these women not have lives outside of their grown adult kids? Will they cease to exist with no children in their lives?


Wait. This is the mother of the Dayton shooter. The art of being a mom.


Wait waht??

Appears to be. Same last name, kids Connor and Megan. Both dead.

He evidently had a kill list and rape list of girls in his HS.

Disgusting. Parents that coddle their boys and raise them with a princely sense of entitlement... STOP DOING THIS. Your precious baby boy needs rules, punishments, boundaries, to be told "no" often. Clearly this mom was caught up in the fetishizing of her own perfect children.

It's not a great thing to do for girls either, but girls generally don't lash out and kill others. Boys and young men do. Loving your kids doesn't mean smothering them. You have to teach them how to deal with disappointment and rejection and failure.

Dads too, but I think a lot of dads shrug their shoulders and let mama bear do her smothering thing.

Mental health is a lot more complicated than just issuing more punishments and no’s. In some cases, that could make their mental health worse.

Boundaries and discipline makes mental health issues worse?

Bullsh!t. That's exactly the kind of thing parents of killers like Adam Lanza said - just leave him be. That's exactly the kind of attitude that leads to entitled boys and men to violently lash out.

[Anonymous]

PP, don’t quit your day job. Your Internet Psychologist routine needs work.

[Anonymous]

The article was a little corny and over the top/dramatic, but the author doesn’t seem like a bad person or a bad mom to me? She’s involved and supportive. What am I not getting here?

[Anonymous]

I feel like people aren't reading and are just commenting. OP wrote about a clingy blogger.

Someone else posted a link to a pinterest, that happens to be the mother of the Dayton shooter and his sister/victim, but nobody said her pinterest caused the shooting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The article was a little corny and over the top/dramatic, but the author doesn’t seem like a bad person or a bad mom to me? She’s involved and supportive. What am I not getting here?

This was my takeaway too, although I'm also firmly in the camp of "emotions are not inherently bad or worthy of judgment." I saw this as a woman expressing her sadness over realizing that her son moved on to the next phase of his life and being a bit taken aback that she was asking for a table for 3 instead of 4. I'm a mom to a young child and I can imagine having that same sad pang when my kid eventually leaves the house. It doesn't mean that I'm going to show up at his dorm at night playing In Your Eyes on a boombox outside his window.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think she literally means they’ve never been apart.

[Anonymous]

I wish I could drop off my 17 year old rising senior today. Just fast forward one whole year.

I'd do it in a heartbeat. Peace out kid, you do you.

[Anonymous]

The Pinterest page is weird, but maybe she is living in the past because her adult son is a weirdo. She had to have known her son got kicked out of school for creating a rape/kill list and was in some sort of graphic violence/porno band.

She probably clings onto memories of the toddler/little kid years before her son became a lunatic.

I’m tired of all the “blame the mom” rhetoric when a grown man makes horrible decisions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Pinterest page is weird, but maybe she is living in the past because her adult son is a weirdo. She had to have known her son got kicked out of school for creating a rape/kill list and was in some sort of graphic violence/porno band.

She probably clings onto memories of the toddler/little kid years before her son became a lunatic.

I’m tired of all the “blame the mom” rhetoric when a grown man makes horrible decisions.

Whoever had the most control over his early environment is the one who is most responsible. Sure, once in a blue moon it’s the father.

[Anonymous]

Ha, sounds like just DH's mother.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ha, sounds like just DH's mother.

Exactly!! Women seem to have a nasty habit of creating entitled men. Why does this keep repeating itself, generation after generation?

Fathers generally expect their sons to become responsible men. Mothers tend to coddle. Why???

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ha, sounds like just DH's mother.

Exactly!! Women seem to have a nasty habit of creating entitled men. Why does this keep repeating itself, generation after generation?

Fathers generally expect their sons to become responsible men. Mothers tend to coddle. Why???

They want to feel needed. Maybe their own husbands suck. I don’t want to feel needed by my adult male child. Gross.