A serious question for my fellow Black DCUMers

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I reject your premise that there are more people in the black community who "maim and kill without remorse" than in the larger community. I mean really, given the s*** we deal with that other people do not need to concern themselves with, I'm heartened there aren't MORE people maiming and killing without remorse.

Just to be clear/fair, the OP never said there are more people in the black community who commit these acts.


If OP didn't say it directly, that was certainly the strong implication.

Respectfully disagree. This isn't a case of "if". Just read through the thread and it's clear that what you're saying was never suggested.


If this is not OP's implication, then why would we need a race-based conversation? If there are a certain percentage of psycho or sociopaths in the world, regardless of race, why would OP want to have a conversation with her 'fellow Black DCUMers'?
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Anonymous wrote:Hard pass.


+1 this website has so many racist and prejudice people.
I’m not about to have normal black get together convo on here. I call troll


+1, I'm starting to think so too. Don't think most black people would bring this up on DCUM and title it "my fellow Black DCUMers" knowing how few of us there are on this site, and how racist the responses will be.


Black guy here.
I agree.

OP, the black delegation has chosen to vacate and remand your case back to the lower courts.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, I reject your premise that there are more people in the black community who "maim and kill without remorse" than in the larger community. I mean really, given the s*** we deal with that other people do not need to concern themselves with, I'm heartened there aren't MORE people maiming and killing without remorse.


DP. OP has referenced Makiyah Wilson and Karon Brown several times. She is clearly focused on DC and the crimes committed here. OP is wondering what can be done to make these murders stop. Are you saying you're content with the status quo, that you're happy that there aren't more muders?
Anonymous
Wealth inequality, systemic racism, lack of good education, belief in a lack of other options, media portrayals of black men, all these things and more. Many of these things are things we can address with a progressive agenda. Universal college education and better funding for schools would be a great place to start.
Anonymous
I mean she didn't say it but statistically it's true:

Who are the victims
of violent crime?
Teenage black males have the highest victimization rate (113 per 1,000 in
1992), while elderly white females
have the lowest rate (3 per 1,000).
Teenagers in general have very high
rates: 90 per 1,000 for teenage white
males, 55 per 1,000 for teenage white
females, and 94 per 1,000 for teenage
black females.
Anonymous
Black males had the highest homicide rate (72 per 100,000 population),
followed by black females (14 per
100,000), white males (9 per 100,000),
and white females (3 per 100,000).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Wealth inequality, systemic racism, lack of good education, belief in a lack of other options, media portrayals of black men, all these things and more. Many of these things are things we can address with a progressive agenda. Universal college education and better funding for schools would be a great place to start.


Add concentrated poverty to the list, although it overlaps with the other factors.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:OP, I reject your premise that there are more people in the black community who "maim and kill without remorse" than in the larger community. I mean really, given the s*** we deal with that other people do not need to concern themselves with, I'm heartened there aren't MORE people maiming and killing without remorse.


DP. OP has referenced Makiyah Wilson and Karon Brown several times. She is clearly focused on DC and the crimes committed here. OP is wondering what can be done to make these murders stop. Are you saying you're content with the status quo, that you're happy that there aren't more muders?


DP.
Based on what public officials are saying, getting guns off the street is the main way to make these murders stop. It's very rare you hear about people in the black community who "maim and kill without remorse" doing so by bashing victims heads in with baseball bats or stabbing victims with butcher knives or choking victims to death with their bare hands. No. The guns are the problem.

"One of the things we’ve got to take a look at is the capacity of the weapons that are out there … and the availability of these weapons in our community and more specifically the repeat violent offenders and folks that are involved in this behavior." ~ DC Police Chief Peter Newsham

“We know we have too many illegal guns. And we also know that the penalty when you’re caught is neither swift nor certain.” ~ DC Deputy Mayor for Public Safety and Justice, Kevin Donahue

Anonymous
I hesitate to chime in as a white person, even though you said that was okay. My opinion should count a lot less than other black people's obviously. However, what I see is a society that has taught black people that they aren't worth anything. That nobody cares about them. Then throw them into a world where they do their best to strip them of any economic security. Many have parents who are completely tapped out because of this and they themselves have no resources and were brought up in bad circumstances themselves. There is nothing inherently different about black people, obviously. And I would venture to say that much of black culture is absolutely the best of American culture. It is the most vibrant, honest, creative. I see a strength in black people that white people just have never had to muster. (The white fragility coming out after 45 is incredible.) I think that hopefully this rising tide of people who want to change things in America post Trump will chip away at what we've done to black people and these problems will eventually become very small. Eventually.

In short, white supremacy has done this. The fact that most black people are thriving in America and the enormity of their contributions proves this. Let's start caring about everyone.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hard pass.


+1 this website has so many racist and prejudice people.
I’m not about to have normal black get together convo on here. I call troll


+1, I'm starting to think so too. Don't think most black people would bring this up on DCUM and title it "my fellow Black DCUMers" knowing how few of us there are on this site, and how racist the responses will be.


Black guy here.
I agree.

OP, the black delegation has chosen to vacate and remand your case back to the lower courts.



But the question remains; with grave consequences.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hard pass.


+1 this website has so many racist and prejudice people.
I’m not about to have normal black get together convo on here. I call troll


+1, I'm starting to think so too. Don't think most black people would bring this up on DCUM and title it "my fellow Black DCUMers" knowing how few of us there are on this site, and how racist the responses will be.


Black guy here.
I agree.

OP, the black delegation has chosen to vacate and remand your case back to the lower courts.



But the question remains; with grave consequences.


I guess the question will remain then.
If you wanna get your jollies off talking bad about black folks then go ahead and do it, but you won't be getting an all-exclusive invitation to do some from any black DCUM posters.
No.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hard pass.


+1 this website has so many racist and prejudice people.
I’m not about to have normal black get together convo on here. I call troll


+1, I'm starting to think so too. Don't think most black people would bring this up on DCUM and title it "my fellow Black DCUMers" knowing how few of us there are on this site, and how racist the responses will be.


Black guy here.
I agree.

OP, the black delegation has chosen to vacate and remand your case back to the lower courts.



But the question remains; with grave consequences.


I guess the question will remain then.
If you wanna get your jollies off talking bad about black folks then go ahead and do it, but you won't be getting an all-exclusive invitation to do some from any black DCUM posters.
No.


...to do so...
Anonymous
I am white but not american. So I hope that my comments won’t be perceived as racist.
I think the tragedy is that the African civilization was never left alone, to develop and thrive in its own way.
Africans were uprooted and/or colonized and forced into the world that was foreign and hostile to the them.
At first they were exploited, but the with the cruel structure. Once freed, they were given no guidance, no acceptance, and they felt lost. There need to be core values that would guide black youth.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Part of it has been systematic disenfranchisement of African Americans. This recent Propublica/New Yorker article covers one example--black families passed down land to descendants, and the land is sometimes later taken from them by courts, developers, etc. I'm black (although 1st-gen American) and I had no idea stuff like this had occurred recently and is still ongoing.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/22/kicked-off-the-land?utm_brand=tny&utm_source=facebook&utm_social-type=owned&mbid=social_facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR1O7GdqtpMZK7fjhGnTFgzNfrm3ShGBmRmydq0pG7c11bKpcTi0zsnNtDc


This is an interesting piece. But you should know seizing land and valuables happens in small towns too. Texas has a huge problem with this, and it’s not just against Blacks. I only skimmed the piece but it’s seems it’s a lack of education of how laws are in flux that results in land losing.

I’m Hispanic (2nd generation), I’m the pp poster with my family idea. I think Op that the ones that do this have drugs and nothing to lose. Most people are good if they aren’t on drugs. If they had a good family unit even poor, there would be something to turn to. Money does buy opportunities. But love care and togetherness is not bought with money. If they could turn to church, they could turn around. I don’t think they are past rehab. But it can’t be the government fixing this. Yes there’s millions of issues they can fix. But you can’t fix instrisic value with a law. Foster children have the same issue.


Yes, in fact love, care, and togetherness ARE bought with money, in part. I am the PP white mom with the challenging son. My money and privilege: got him an IEP; got him top-of-the line therapy; got a house zoned for a good school where they implement the IEP; got me a job with great health insurance for him; got me a house close to my work so I can spend more time at home with him; and probably most importantly -- not being in poverty greatly reduces my stress level, so I can be a good parent.
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