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11/11/2019 15:00

Subject: Re:Athletic groups at Deal

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping to ask about basketball tryouts that started Friday. Anyone know how many kids tried out?

The problem is that the school is too big. The tryouts are meaningless. The kids who will be on the team were identified long ago. Maybe one or two true walkons.

I’m referring to 6th grade team. Couldn’t have been identified long ago.

you sweet summer child

You can be condescending all you want. I know what I know. Was simply asking if anyone had a kid that attended tryouts and have impressions on the new coach. Also, to anyone that played in prior years, I hear that 6th grade team suffers mostly losses due to only playing 7th/8th grade teams at the ECs. Anyone know if they won any games last year? Trying to ascertain whether it’s worth it to let my DS play.

This is true. The whole point of a 6th grade team is because there were way too many kids trying out and 6th graders just aren't good enough to make a team when trying out with the older kids. Unfortunately there are no other 6th grade teams (are there?) for them to play against so the 6th graders end up playing against 7th/8th graders anyway. Some of the ES all stars start riding the bench exclusively and the emerging talent (because now they are old enough for talent to begin to outweigh the opportunity parents create for them in ES) plays to try to win games where they are likely outmatched.

Our son played for his ES team, he plays AAU now on a great team. He didn't even consider trying out for the Deal team because being part of the school team is meaningless to him and he's getting great coaching and experience on his current team. I have known a lot of 6th graders who gave up basketball at the end of the season (some committing to another sport, some realize they just aren't going to cut it when 7th grade starts.)

Also, how do ES all stars ride the bench? I know there are some kids that don’t come from feeders but if there are 1-2 all stars from each feeder, I imagine most should get playing time. No?

Look at it this way - if there are 1-2 "stars" from each of the 6 feeder schools, that makes up to 12 of the 15 person team so there are 3 more to fill up the team. The 6th grade team is already at a disadvantage because they will be playing 7th/8th graders. Since the Deal coach is likely to be focused more on winning that developing players, there are probably 5 or so kids that will have the majority of the game playing time. Those are the kids that are probably already playing on some other team(s) and are probably very good for their age. There are probably also a handful of AAU/travel level good players that don't even bother to try out for school teams because they (their parents) view it as a waste of time because the Deal program doesn't compare.

But 1-2 is a stretch. There aren’t any all stars at probably half of the feeders. I can’t see any true ES all stars riding the bench. Being the best on your ES team doesn’t make one an all star. I think there are like 2 really good players from Shepherd and maybe 1 from Lafayette. Other than that, seems like it’s up in the air as far as all star level. I think the problem most parents have is they think because their kid was a decent player on ES level that they’ll translate to Deal when thats not always the case.

"all star" is a relative term and more specific to where they are coming from than how skilled they really are. 1-2 is most definitely a stretch. There are probably kids trying out that have only played pick up games and never had organized instruction but might have more athletic skill than some kid whose parent has been paying thousands for years of basketball training.

That's why PP upthread who claims to know the team has been identified long ago has no idea what they are talking about unless Deal is "recruiting" (lol) from the area AAU league teams.