Athletic groups at Deal

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping to ask about basketball tryouts that started Friday. Anyone know how many kids tried out?

The problem is that the school is too big. The tryouts are meaningless. The kids who will be on the team were identified long ago. Maybe one or two true walkons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping to ask about basketball tryouts that started Friday. Anyone know how many kids tried out?

The problem is that the school is too big. The tryouts are meaningless. The kids who will be on the team were identified long ago. Maybe one or two true walkons.

I’m referring to 6th grade team. Couldn’t have been identified long ago.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping to ask about basketball tryouts that started Friday. Anyone know how many kids tried out?

The problem is that the school is too big. The tryouts are meaningless. The kids who will be on the team were identified long ago. Maybe one or two true walkons.

I’m referring to 6th grade team. Couldn’t have been identified long ago.

NP. Of course they do. The travel team baseball kids are well known to coach, and plentiful at Deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Deal families could support redistricting so that fewer kids were IB for the school. If Lafayette and Coolidge went to Wells and Coolidge and Bancroft (and Oyster) went to MacFarland and Roosevelt, there would be more opportunity to play sports, along with many other advantages.

Adams is the middle school for Oyster. The sports programs at Adams are great despite the school being tin. They won the track championships within the last couple of years, and they are frequently second to Deal in track and cross country. Boys basketball was second in their division last year. The sports programs are a wonderful part of the school and many, many kids participate (like 1/3 of the school does track and/or cross country). My kid did three sports there and loved it. There would be absolutely zero advantages to eliminating this highly performing school, despite the poster that keeps pushing this odd idea here and in the DCPS forum.

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Anonymous wrote:Deal families could support redistricting so that fewer kids were IB for the school. If Lafayette and Coolidge went to Wells and Coolidge and Bancroft (and Oyster) went to MacFarland and Roosevelt, there would be more opportunity to play sports, along with many other advantages.

Coolidge is a high school. Wells is well over its enrollment projections in its first year.

Maybe learn about EOTP schools before suggesting boundary changes.

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping to ask about basketball tryouts that started Friday. Anyone know how many kids tried out?

The problem is that the school is too big. The tryouts are meaningless. The kids who will be on the team were identified long ago. Maybe one or two true walkons.

I’m referring to 6th grade team. Couldn’t have been identified long ago.

you sweet summer child

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping to ask about basketball tryouts that started Friday. Anyone know how many kids tried out?

The problem is that the school is too big. The tryouts are meaningless. The kids who will be on the team were identified long ago. Maybe one or two true walkons.

I’m referring to 6th grade team. Couldn’t have been identified long ago.

NP. Of course they do. The travel team baseball kids are well known to coach, and plentiful at Deal.

basketball, not baseball. I’m very in deep in the basketball world in DC and I’d disagree with you. The 6th grade boys coach is brand new this year and does not seem to know one child. I’m hearing there were about 25 kids trying out. That doesn’t seem too bad.

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping to ask about basketball tryouts that started Friday. Anyone know how many kids tried out?

The problem is that the school is too big. The tryouts are meaningless. The kids who will be on the team were identified long ago. Maybe one or two true walkons.

I’m referring to 6th grade team. Couldn’t have been identified long ago.

you sweet summer child

You can be condescending all you want. I know what I know. Was simply asking if anyone had a kid that attended tryouts and have impressions on the new coach. Also, to anyone that played in prior years, I hear that 6th grade team suffers mostly losses due to only playing 7th/8th grade teams at the ECs. Anyone know if they won any games last year? Trying to ascertain whether it’s worth it to let my DS play.

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping to ask about basketball tryouts that started Friday. Anyone know how many kids tried out?

The problem is that the school is too big. The tryouts are meaningless. The kids who will be on the team were identified long ago. Maybe one or two true walkons.

I’m referring to 6th grade team. Couldn’t have been identified long ago.

you sweet summer child

You can be condescending all you want. I know what I know. Was simply asking if anyone had a kid that attended tryouts and have impressions on the new coach. Also, to anyone that played in prior years, I hear that 6th grade team suffers mostly losses due to only playing 7th/8th grade teams at the ECs. Anyone know if they won any games last year? Trying to ascertain whether it’s worth it to let my DS play.

This is true. The whole point of a 6th grade team is because there were way too many kids trying out and 6th graders just aren't good enough to make a team when trying out with the older kids. Unfortunately there are no other 6th grade teams (are there?) for them to play against so the 6th graders end up playing against 7th/8th graders anyway. Some of the ES all stars start riding the bench exclusively and the emerging talent (because now they are old enough for talent to begin to outweigh the opportunity parents create for them in ES) plays to try to win games where they are likely outmatched.

Our son played for his ES team, he plays AAU now on a great team. He didn't even consider trying out for the Deal team because being part of the school team is meaningless to him and he's getting great coaching and experience on his current team. I have known a lot of 6th graders who gave up basketball at the end of the season (some committing to another sport, some realize they just aren't going to cut it when 7th grade starts.)

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping to ask about basketball tryouts that started Friday. Anyone know how many kids tried out?

The problem is that the school is too big. The tryouts are meaningless. The kids who will be on the team were identified long ago. Maybe one or two true walkons.

I’m referring to 6th grade team. Couldn’t have been identified long ago.

you sweet summer child

You can be condescending all you want. I know what I know. Was simply asking if anyone had a kid that attended tryouts and have impressions on the new coach. Also, to anyone that played in prior years, I hear that 6th grade team suffers mostly losses due to only playing 7th/8th grade teams at the ECs. Anyone know if they won any games last year? Trying to ascertain whether it’s worth it to let my DS play.

This is true. The whole point of a 6th grade team is because there were way too many kids trying out and 6th graders just aren't good enough to make a team when trying out with the older kids. Unfortunately there are no other 6th grade teams (are there?) for them to play against so the 6th graders end up playing against 7th/8th graders anyway. Some of the ES all stars start riding the bench exclusively and the emerging talent (because now they are old enough for talent to begin to outweigh the opportunity parents create for them in ES) plays to try to win games where they are likely outmatched.

Our son played for his ES team, he plays AAU now on a great team. He didn't even consider trying out for the Deal team because being part of the school team is meaningless to him and he's getting great coaching and experience on his current team. I have known a lot of 6th graders who gave up basketball at the end of the season (some committing to another sport, some realize they just aren't going to cut it when 7th grade starts.)

Do you like your AAU club? We are actively looking for one now? How demanding is it schedule wise? Can your kid still play another sport? Thanks so much.

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping to ask about basketball tryouts that started Friday. Anyone know how many kids tried out?

The problem is that the school is too big. The tryouts are meaningless. The kids who will be on the team were identified long ago. Maybe one or two true walkons.

I’m referring to 6th grade team. Couldn’t have been identified long ago.

you sweet summer child

You can be condescending all you want. I know what I know. Was simply asking if anyone had a kid that attended tryouts and have impressions on the new coach. Also, to anyone that played in prior years, I hear that 6th grade team suffers mostly losses due to only playing 7th/8th grade teams at the ECs. Anyone know if they won any games last year? Trying to ascertain whether it’s worth it to let my DS play.

This is true. The whole point of a 6th grade team is because there were way too many kids trying out and 6th graders just aren't good enough to make a team when trying out with the older kids. Unfortunately there are no other 6th grade teams (are there?) for them to play against so the 6th graders end up playing against 7th/8th graders anyway. Some of the ES all stars start riding the bench exclusively and the emerging talent (because now they are old enough for talent to begin to outweigh the opportunity parents create for them in ES) plays to try to win games where they are likely outmatched.

Our son played for his ES team, he plays AAU now on a great team. He didn't even consider trying out for the Deal team because being part of the school team is meaningless to him and he's getting great coaching and experience on his current team. I have known a lot of 6th graders who gave up basketball at the end of the season (some committing to another sport, some realize they just aren't going to cut it when 7th grade starts.)

Also, how do ES all stars ride the bench? I know there are some kids that don’t come from feeders but if there are 1-2 all stars from each feeder, I imagine most should get playing time. No?

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping to ask about basketball tryouts that started Friday. Anyone know how many kids tried out?

The problem is that the school is too big. The tryouts are meaningless. The kids who will be on the team were identified long ago. Maybe one or two true walkons.

I’m referring to 6th grade team. Couldn’t have been identified long ago.

you sweet summer child

You can be condescending all you want. I know what I know. Was simply asking if anyone had a kid that attended tryouts and have impressions on the new coach. Also, to anyone that played in prior years, I hear that 6th grade team suffers mostly losses due to only playing 7th/8th grade teams at the ECs. Anyone know if they won any games last year? Trying to ascertain whether it’s worth it to let my DS play.

This is true. The whole point of a 6th grade team is because there were way too many kids trying out and 6th graders just aren't good enough to make a team when trying out with the older kids. Unfortunately there are no other 6th grade teams (are there?) for them to play against so the 6th graders end up playing against 7th/8th graders anyway. Some of the ES all stars start riding the bench exclusively and the emerging talent (because now they are old enough for talent to begin to outweigh the opportunity parents create for them in ES) plays to try to win games where they are likely outmatched.

Our son played for his ES team, he plays AAU now on a great team. He didn't even consider trying out for the Deal team because being part of the school team is meaningless to him and he's getting great coaching and experience on his current team. I have known a lot of 6th graders who gave up basketball at the end of the season (some committing to another sport, some realize they just aren't going to cut it when 7th grade starts.)

Do you like your AAU club? We are actively looking for one now? How demanding is it schedule wise? Can your kid still play another sport? Thanks so much.

There is a lot of good information about area AAU basketball here:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/836549.page

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping to ask about basketball tryouts that started Friday. Anyone know how many kids tried out?

The problem is that the school is too big. The tryouts are meaningless. The kids who will be on the team were identified long ago. Maybe one or two true walkons.

I’m referring to 6th grade team. Couldn’t have been identified long ago.

you sweet summer child

You can be condescending all you want. I know what I know. Was simply asking if anyone had a kid that attended tryouts and have impressions on the new coach. Also, to anyone that played in prior years, I hear that 6th grade team suffers mostly losses due to only playing 7th/8th grade teams at the ECs. Anyone know if they won any games last year? Trying to ascertain whether it’s worth it to let my DS play.

This is true. The whole point of a 6th grade team is because there were way too many kids trying out and 6th graders just aren't good enough to make a team when trying out with the older kids. Unfortunately there are no other 6th grade teams (are there?) for them to play against so the 6th graders end up playing against 7th/8th graders anyway. Some of the ES all stars start riding the bench exclusively and the emerging talent (because now they are old enough for talent to begin to outweigh the opportunity parents create for them in ES) plays to try to win games where they are likely outmatched.

Our son played for his ES team, he plays AAU now on a great team. He didn't even consider trying out for the Deal team because being part of the school team is meaningless to him and he's getting great coaching and experience on his current team. I have known a lot of 6th graders who gave up basketball at the end of the season (some committing to another sport, some realize they just aren't going to cut it when 7th grade starts.)

Also, how do ES all stars ride the bench? I know there are some kids that don’t come from feeders but if there are 1-2 all stars from each feeder, I imagine most should get playing time. No?

Look at it this way - if there are 1-2 "stars" from each of the 6 feeder schools, that makes up to 12 of the 15 person team so there are 3 more to fill up the team. The 6th grade team is already at a disadvantage because they will be playing 7th/8th graders. Since the Deal coach is likely to be focused more on winning that developing players, there are probably 5 or so kids that will have the majority of the game playing time. Those are the kids that are probably already playing on some other team(s) and are probably very good for their age. There are probably also a handful of AAU/travel level good players that don't even bother to try out for school teams because they (their parents) view it as a waste of time because the Deal program doesn't compare.

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Anonymous wrote:Bumping to ask about basketball tryouts that started Friday. Anyone know how many kids tried out?

The problem is that the school is too big. The tryouts are meaningless. The kids who will be on the team were identified long ago. Maybe one or two true walkons.

I’m referring to 6th grade team. Couldn’t have been identified long ago.

you sweet summer child

You can be condescending all you want. I know what I know. Was simply asking if anyone had a kid that attended tryouts and have impressions on the new coach. Also, to anyone that played in prior years, I hear that 6th grade team suffers mostly losses due to only playing 7th/8th grade teams at the ECs. Anyone know if they won any games last year? Trying to ascertain whether it’s worth it to let my DS play.

This is true. The whole point of a 6th grade team is because there were way too many kids trying out and 6th graders just aren't good enough to make a team when trying out with the older kids. Unfortunately there are no other 6th grade teams (are there?) for them to play against so the 6th graders end up playing against 7th/8th graders anyway. Some of the ES all stars start riding the bench exclusively and the emerging talent (because now they are old enough for talent to begin to outweigh the opportunity parents create for them in ES) plays to try to win games where they are likely outmatched.

Our son played for his ES team, he plays AAU now on a great team. He didn't even consider trying out for the Deal team because being part of the school team is meaningless to him and he's getting great coaching and experience on his current team. I have known a lot of 6th graders who gave up basketball at the end of the season (some committing to another sport, some realize they just aren't going to cut it when 7th grade starts.)

Also, how do ES all stars ride the bench? I know there are some kids that don’t come from feeders but if there are 1-2 all stars from each feeder, I imagine most should get playing time. No?

Look at it this way - if there are 1-2 "stars" from each of the 6 feeder schools, that makes up to 12 of the 15 person team so there are 3 more to fill up the team. The 6th grade team is already at a disadvantage because they will be playing 7th/8th graders. Since the Deal coach is likely to be focused more on winning that developing players, there are probably 5 or so kids that will have the majority of the game playing time. Those are the kids that are probably already playing on some other team(s) and are probably very good for their age. There are probably also a handful of AAU/travel level good players that don't even bother to try out for school teams because they (their parents) view it as a waste of time because the Deal program doesn't compare.

But 1-2 is a stretch. There aren’t any all stars at probably half of the feeders. I can’t see any true ES all stars riding the bench. Being the best on your ES team doesn’t make one an all star. I think there are like 2 really good players from Shepherd and maybe 1 from Lafayette. Other than that, seems like it’s up in the air as far as all star level. I think the problem most parents have is they think because their kid was a decent player on ES level that they’ll translate to Deal when thats not always the case.