Michigan, UVA can either be considered as a safety?

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MoCo top public parent here. I've obsereved that schools like the two listed in op deny or WL the truly cream of the crop students and let in the average and mediocre ones. Sorry, just being honest.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the lastest admissions stats for Michigan? I always thought they were around 40% admit

Not even close and their yield is unmanagable, so for the 2020 applicants, it will be even more selective.

Michigan effectively serves as the state school for NY and NJ.

lol so true. "The University of New Jersey at Ann Arbor"

Oh stop. This is the sort of silly stuff people repeat because they think it makes them sound witty. Two second google search gives you the numbers.

29,821 Undergrads at Michigan
16,364 from Michigan
1,747 from New York
1,761 from Illinois
1,628 from CA

1,200 from NJ

Source: https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/freshmen-applicants/student-profile

You realize, right, that Michigan is a state school?

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Anonymous wrote:I have two kids that went to UVA and I’ve been following the admission statistics over the years. They really haven’t gotten all that much more selective. Yes, they get more applications, but they also admit more students and have lower yields. The entering stats for the new classes are not that much more impressive than classes of 10 or 20 years ago. Clearly a lot of marginally qualified applicants are now applying because of the ease of the common application.

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No. Just go look at the SCHEV stats. They climb every year.

Well, median GPA went from 4.04 to 4.33 from 2006 to 2018, but median GPA at more affluent high schools increased .27 from 2004 to 2015 and .17 at less affluent high schools. It is mostly high school grade inflation.

To clarify for everyone, SCHEV stands for the Statew Council of Higher Education for Virginia. Every year it provides research and statistics on most of the schools in Virgina, and of course UVA. Anyone considering applying to Virginia schools should study all the research reports in this Va government report. As to UVA, if you enter UVA on this particular page and hit "update" you will see the GPA and test scores for last falls class. This helps the student and parent get a feel about what the likelihood of admission is. Be mindful, however, that these are ENTERING scores which are lower than the ACCEPTED scores. These are the students who actually showed up.http://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

As to GPA, the 75% (top 25%) median is a 4.48 (that means 12.5% is above a 4.48 and 12.5% is below); the median GPA for the class is a 4.33 and the bottom 25% median is a 4.16. As to SAT the 75th percentile is a 1480; the median 50% has a 1420 and the bottom median 25% is a 1330. Similarly the 75th percentile ACT is a 34; the median 50% is a 32 and the bottom 25th percentile is a 30.

This is why, personally, I don't think UVA is a safety. Those are high GPAs and test scores. But YRMV.

You post this in virtually every UVA thread, right?

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Anonymous wrote:UVA will be nobody’s safety school in five years. Apps will top 70,000. There will be many angry legacy parents.

There are already angry legacy parents - with kids with stats that statistically should have been what you would call "a safety". No school is a safety anymore, especially those that practice yield protection year, those in the counseling field see upset parents and students that counted on a particular school and the result from admissions is a mystery. Sure, it is said that very high stats kids use UVA as a legacy - but that doesn't mean that they always get in. I know some parents who had meetings with the UVA admission director to ask for an explanation as to why their triple legacy kid didn't get in. It's all a lottery out there.

What’s the point of requesting such a meeting? Seems so sad.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the lastest admissions stats for Michigan? I always thought they were around 40% admit

I think it’s around 24% overall and around 18% for OOS. 40 might be instate but that’s probably high even for instate.

instate is 40ish. But it is a very small group of Michigan high schools (10-15) where there are a lot of instate applications, unlike a place like California where a much wider population is trying to get into Berkeley and UCLA.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the lastest admissions stats for Michigan? I always thought they were around 40% admit

Not even close and their yield is unmanagable, so for the 2020 applicants, it will be even more selective.

Michigan effectively serves as the state school for NY and NJ.

lol so true. "The University of New Jersey at Ann Arbor"

Oh stop. This is the sort of silly stuff people repeat because they think it makes them sound witty. Two second google search gives you the numbers.

29,821 Undergrads at Michigan
16,364 from Michigan
1,747 from New York
1,761 from Illinois
1,628 from CA

1,200 from NJ

Source: https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/freshmen-applicants/student-profile

You realize, right, that Michigan is a state school?

As an in-state graduate, what I always says is, "Michigan is not a state school, it is a school that gives a discount to people who live in Michigan". When you are at almost 50% OOS, it makes you wonder. In fact, this percentage is a big point of contention as some outstanding in-state candidates get rejected.