Michigan, UVA can either be considered as a safety?

[Anonymous]

I will preface this by saying that I'm only talking about absolutely top tier students with extremely high stats 4.7+ GPA, 1550+ SAT. Many in the DC area seem to categorize these two schools as safeties, but does the data support this?

[Anonymous]

Please, go away.

[Anonymous]

No, not anymore. Hell, with an 18% acceptence rate, even BU isn’t even a safety anymore. Times have changed.

[Anonymous]

No. My kid goes to TJ, and the guidance office there specifically says that no student should consider UVA a safety. Period. Highly likely for some kids? Sure. But not a given and big surprises every year.

Michigan is arguably a heavier lift (depending on if you want engineering).

TJ considers VCU, GMU and Pitt safeties. Almost every kid who applied will be admitted. (Aside: Pitt is strange for TJ. Most year well over TJ kids apply to Pitt as a safety and every single one is admitted— 100%— almost all with significant merit).

Remember how you should define safety: your kid is certain to get in and you can definitely find a way for them and/or you to pay. The worst case scenario. But that definition, no. UVA can be a low target. But virtually never a safety.

[Anonymous]

Yes on my kids’ school’s naviance, everybody with those stats got in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will preface this by saying that I'm only talking about absolutely top tier students with extremely high stats 4.7+ GPA, 1550+ SAT. Many in the DC area seem to categorize these two schools as safeties, but does the data support this?

This is....not true.

The answer to your question is no, obviously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No. My kid goes to TJ, and the guidance office there specifically says that no student should consider UVA a safety. Period. Highly likely for some kids? Sure. But not a given and big surprises every year.

Michigan is arguably a heavier lift (depending on if you want engineering).

TJ considers VCU, GMU and Pitt safeties. Almost every kid who applied will be admitted. (Aside: Pitt is strange for TJ. Most year well over TJ kids apply to Pitt as a safety and every single one is admitted— 100%— almost all with significant merit).

Remember how you should define safety: your kid is certain to get in and you can definitely find a way for them and/or you to pay. The worst case scenario. But that definition, no. UVA can be a low target. But virtually never a safety.

Well over 100 TJ kids apply to Pitt. Lost the 100. Rolling admission mean an acceptance by October.

[Anonymous]

If you are OOS applying to Michigan, no.

Unless you are also a recruitable, Div 1 athlete.

[Anonymous]

What are the lastest admissions stats for Michigan? I always thought they were around 40% admit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What are the lastest admissions stats for Michigan? I always thought they were around 40% admit

I think it’s around 24% overall and around 18% for OOS. 40 might be instate but that’s probably high even for instate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What are the lastest admissions stats for Michigan? I always thought they were around 40% admit

23-24%, though lower for out of state

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the lastest admissions stats for Michigan? I always thought they were around 40% admit

23-24%, though lower for out of state

In 2018 the in-state acceptance rate was 40%. Out of state was 19.4% (down from 6% the year before). https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2018/06/university_of_michigan_receive_8.html

I can't find anything public re the acceptance rate for the class of 2023.

[Anonymous]

It seems unwise to rely on Naviance data for a safety determination when the line changes every year.

[Anonymous]

Yes. And anyone saying otherwise is a lunatic alum or some Tailgate State parent with a kid who's a current student, who acts like their kid is at Yale. Hoi polloi are so freaking cringe when it comes to state school admissions.

The only reason top stats kids get rejected or waitlisted from UVA or Michigan is because they have literally zero ties to the college and admissions can easily tease out you just shotgun blasted apps out for bragging rights, i.e. they assume you have no intention of going there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes. And anyone saying otherwise is a lunatic alum or some Tailgate State parent with a kid who's a current student, who acts like their kid is at Yale. Hoi polloi are so freaking cringe when it comes to state school admissions.

The only reason top stats kids get rejected or waitlisted from UVA or Michigan is because they have literally zero ties to the college and admissions can easily tease out you just shotgun blasted apps out for bragging rights, i.e. they assume you have no intention of going there.

And how does a school with UVA’s applicant numbers do that? And how can you guarantee a school with that low an acceptance rate won’t tease out your kid?

Because OP didn’t ask about likely to be admitted. They asked about safety. As in, you know they will be admitted. Your are willing to put all your eggs in that basket.

UVA and Michigan, if you aren’t Z List/Development of Div 1 Recruit, you don’t know. Your high stats kid is a likely admit and they lower themselves to apply to VT (not engineering) or GMU or VCU or CNU or JMU as a safety.