Of counsel in Biglaw dc salary range

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP will not get an of counsel job in big law in this town. End of story.

Well...it really depends on what her niche/experience is in and what her existing professional network looks like. But if she needed to ask on this site, PP is right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP will not get an of counsel job in big law in this town. End of story.

Well...it really depends on what her niche/experience is in and what her existing professional network looks like. But if she needed to ask on this site, PP is right.

My guess is that the OP is long gone from this thread after she realized how much of a pipe dream she had....

That said, this thread has yielded some nuggets of wisdom, most notably the mindset needed to make a run at Of Counsel in DC BIGLAW. One would think that private practice lawyers know this, but it's not surprising that many don't. We're conditioned in law school to be good little researchers, ferreting out the answers to questions that don't really have one (i.e. arguing both sides). The problem is that the skills associated with being a good lawyer (particularly in BIGLAW) aren't the same ones needed to run/grow a business (even as a partner in a larger firm). Unless you "wake up" and realize this early on, and more importantly, focus your energy on building your reputation, network and book of business (if possible) as an associate, you won't until you're forced to do so by hanging out your own shingle or working for a MUCH smaller firm. Those lawyers who don't want to do this will go in-house, to the government, non-profit, etc... or leave the practice of law.

In sum, the idea of just waltzing into an Of Counsel slot in DC BIGLAW from out of town is laughable (and a bit sad to even ask about).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rude much? Maybe OP was given the talk because her barely top 100 firm isn’t doing very well. Or maybe it’s because all the male partners don’t see women as viable candidates. Or for some other reason unrelated to her skills. She may have something to offer a firm in need. She should talk to a recruiter.

LOL

She should speak with a recruiter, but unfortunately she'll hear the same things as have been said on this thread. She must be able to make money for the firm from Day 1 as an Of Counsel. If she can't do that, and it's likely she can't since she got "the talk" from her Cleveland firm, an Of Counsel position in DC BIGLAW isn't in the immediate cards. That said, if she has top credentials, there are opportunities in DC if she hits the ground running with an aggressive networking effort.

[Anonymous]

Bumping this old thread to see if any lawyers can comment on opportunities and salaries today. TIA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bumping this old thread to see if any lawyers can comment on opportunities and salaries today. TIA.

There was another thread on this recently. Anywhere from 350-750 depending on firm, experience, demand etc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP will not get an of counsel job in big law in this town. End of story.

Well...it really depends on what her niche/experience is in and what her existing professional network looks like. But if she needed to ask on this site, PP is right.

My guess is that the OP is long gone from this thread after she realized how much of a pipe dream she had....

That said, this thread has yielded some nuggets of wisdom, most notably the mindset needed to make a run at Of Counsel in DC BIGLAW. One would think that private practice lawyers know this, but it's not surprising that many don't. We're conditioned in law school to be good little researchers, ferreting out the answers to questions that don't really have one (i.e. arguing both sides). The problem is that the skills associated with being a good lawyer (particularly in BIGLAW) aren't the same ones needed to run/grow a business (even as a partner in a larger firm). Unless you "wake up" and realize this early on, and more importantly, focus your energy on building your reputation, network and book of business (if possible) as an associate, you won't until you're forced to do so by hanging out your own shingle or working for a MUCH smaller firm. Those lawyers who don't want to do this will go in-house, to the government, non-profit, etc... or leave the practice of law.

In sum, the idea of just waltzing into an Of Counsel slot in DC BIGLAW from out of town is laughable (and a bit sad to even ask about).

And any lawyer who doesn’t figure out the necessary skills for biglaw should prepare themselves for a salary cut.