+1 every Hill thread is a disaster. |
or the nanny brigades |
I'm not following PP and I've been on the Hill for a long time. From where I sit, the main problem is, the achievement gap between affluent families (vs. truly rich) and poor ones in this particular city is a chasm, yet DCPS offers no formal GT services. One result is that unless a PTA is raising the dough for extra staff in classrooms (teachers aides, floating senior teachers) most parents will have bailed from a school by the upper grades. I don't want most of my kids longtime pals leaving in the upper grades, or my advanced learner to get bored, so I choose Brent. Our school's student body is overwhelmingly UMC. Parents are not to blame for Hill parents choosing Brent, Maury, Peabody etc, given the nature of multi-generational poverty in this country and longtime DCPS policy and practices The fact that poor kids do better in particular schools is wonderful, but doesn't do much for us - the achievement gap remains vast and weak support for advanced learners remains a huge problem in DCPs. Most of us need six-figure PTAs to stick with an ES, and honors classes to stick with a MS. |
FFS - the fact that you not only see this as a problem IS the problem. Your "solution" involves knocking home the kid born on third base who thinks he hit a triple, with no regard of getting the other kids to bat. |
NP. You can serve both communities. Some schools do it very well. Some schools do it very poorly (e.g. Watkins). |
yep. giant eye roll at "advanced learner" and GT stuff. As if there's no other option for white high SES kids ... while I agree that realistically middle schools and high schools have to offer appropriate curriculums for all kids, your kid's skin did not confer gifted status ... |
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Grow up already. UMC DCPS and DCPCS students of all races outperform low SES kids as a group in this neighborhood, by a mile. You're the poster talking about race, not others.
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This is OP back, and this is all super informative and I am glad I asked.
On one hand, I asked about "the best" and I feel like I know the answer, a school that feeds to S-H in case I can't lottery better than that for middle. I have been obsessed with Maury because a friend works there, we rent IB, I visited and loved it. But we are unhappy with our rental. It does not feed to S-H either. I think I would be OK with most elems if they are safe, a good, kind environment, etc. My kid is clearly really smart, he is gonna be cool no matter the art/science whatever scores, and I don't think elem matters that much. We are not in school yet, so what do I know. |
No Tyler, but I’m guessing that’s a no based on pp’s experience with these schools. |
Above is accurate. The achievement gap is too wide. You can’t put kids 3-4 grade levels apart in the same classes in upper elementary and expect the teacher to differentiate effectively to meet all of the students needs. Maybe 1-2 levels but reality not 3-4 levels. This argument gets even stronger in middle school as subjects become even more complex and academics abilities diverge even more. VA and MD are far ahead of DC with much more offerings with G &T in elementary, multi-level courses in all subjects in middle and high school. Also, above is why many parents bail out of DCPS in upper elementary and go charter, private, or move to the burbs. That’s the reality of it. I’m not talking about race either or making it about race. In DC, it just happens that socioeconomic status correlates with racial lines. |
DP but I believe both Inspired and Stokes preform same or better than Brent when you compare apples to apples. Agree with commute but wanted to contend your first point. |
DCPS can break down all they want with the stats to at risk, special needs, etc...so certain schools do a better job at serving these students. Honestly I could care less about that. If my child is advance, what I care about is peer group and I’m looking at the total percentage of kids scoring 4 on PARCC. 3 on PARCC isn’t even at grade level, it’s approaching grade level. Brent way outperforms based on this criteria. |
In defense of Watkins my kids’ teachers have done creative things to challenge my kids. Gets harder as you move up in grades but the teachers have worked with us. |
No. I meant comparing the same demographic groups. White students: Brent (4+) ELA: 77% Inspired (4+) ELA: 85% Brent (4+) Math: 86% Inspired (4+) Math: 86% Black students: Brent ELA: 30% Inspired ELA: 40% Brent Math: 24% Inspired Math: 23% |
| Who really cares about the silly PARCC scores? At Brent they're barely discussed. No real test prep is done. The focus for the kids is elsewhere - on the arts program, happy classroom experiences, pullout groups and targeted interventions to help teachers differentiate effectively, field trips, music lessons, chess club, sports teams, scouts etc. etc. The school's at-risk population is in the low single digits these days. PARCC scores are for poor kids. Several other Hill elementary schools will be in the same situation within five years. |