Morehouse keynote speaker . . .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I like that he ended it "May God always hold you in the cradle of HER hands"

Why?

I don’t even believe in God nor care whether people choose to believe it is a man or woman

NP. Because it expresses good will while poking at accepted belief.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:what about the half of class of 2019 that failed out of Morehouse?

??? Half the class of 2019 has not failed. Aside from your snide comment, this news is wonderful for these graduates.

what this man did is beautiful-- it's not a snide comment but a fact 45% of class of 2019 morehouse students have or will fail out.

morehouse 6 year graduation rate is only 55%

That's crazy low.

This is the difficult position college admissions staff are placed in (in general, not just Morehouse). Do you lower standards, especially for under-represented groups, in the name of diversity? It will make your incoming freshmen stats look good, but it can put your graduation and retention rates at risk.

Yup.

What people don't seem to realize is that in doing so they are actually harming those minorities. 55% graduation rate means 45% of students left with significant debt AND NO TITLE of any kind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many of these youngsters don't have parents who can get home equity loans for college.... or even parent plus loans. 57% are pell geant recipients

Pells don’t have to be paid back

you seem oblivious. Pell grant recipients are low income. Their parents mist likely have no home equity or ability to get parent plus loans. Therefore most of the debt is on the student himself

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like that he ended it "May God always hold you in the cradle of HER hands"

Why?

I don’t even believe in God nor care whether people choose to believe it is a man or woman

he's giving a speech at a male only college, and not going along with a patriarchal god theme. Loved it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like that he ended it "May God always hold you in the cradle of HER hands"

Why?

I don’t even believe in God nor care whether people choose to believe it is a man or woman

he's giving a speech at a male only college, and not going along with a patriarchal god theme. Loved it!

+1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what about the half of class of 2019 that failed out of Morehouse?

??? Half the class of 2019 has not failed. Aside from your snide comment, this news is wonderful for these graduates.

what this man did is beautiful-- it's not a snide comment but a fact 45% of class of 2019 morehouse students have or will fail out.

morehouse 6 year graduation rate is only 55%

More information about that...

http://www.jbhe.com/features/50_blackstudent_gradrates.html

The bottom of the document shows that "the best" of the black students are "taken away" with merit aid by flagship state colleges and SLACS. Most drop out because they run out of money. Many drop out because they are not prepared.

UDC graduation rate is 7%. Nationally it is 35%.

[Anonymous]

I truly wish there were 2 year bachelors colleges that ONLY take community college kids. Everyone starting is a junior and is new to the school. I would think this would be a money maker because there is so much less potential for dropping out, especially for historically black colleges.

And then you can still have your college experience, but for the half the cost and actually graduate

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is he paying off all the credit card debt of the parents that didn't take out loans, but are going into debt helping their kids?

Is he paying back those that didn't get a new house, but saved up money for college instead?


This is just another person helping out people that chose not to help themselves. Go pay off the community college kids debt while they work and go to school.

Agree! Nice gesture, but once again the families and kids that didn’t prepare financially, but still chose a 4yr college with debt are the winners.

Exactly

That's why I said it would be more fair to just give every student the same amount. Take the cost of paying off all the debt, divide it by the number of students, and give that to them

Debt isn't a perfect measure of poverty or need. There were lots of kids there with lower debt because they transferred in from a cheaper college or worked summer jobs or had their parents deplete their savings and go into debt for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is he paying off all the credit card debt of the parents that didn't take out loans, but are going into debt helping their kids?

Is he paying back those that didn't get a new house, but saved up money for college instead?


This is just another person helping out people that chose not to help themselves. Go pay off the community college kids debt while they work and go to school.

Agree! Nice gesture, but once again the families and kids that didn’t prepare financially, but still chose a 4yr college with debt are the winners.

Exactly

That's why I said it would be more fair to just give every student the same amount. Take the cost of paying off all the debt, divide it by the number of students, and give that to them

Debt isn't a perfect measure of poverty or need. There were lots of kids there with lower debt because they transferred in from a cheaper college or worked summer jobs or had their parents deplete their savings and go into debt for them.

Yet when actual debt free students from the 2019 class were interviewed, there were no sour grapes, they were as inspired by the generosity as the students receiving the most

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is he paying off all the credit card debt of the parents that didn't take out loans, but are going into debt helping their kids?

Is he paying back those that didn't get a new house, but saved up money for college instead?


This is just another person helping out people that chose not to help themselves. Go pay off the community college kids debt while they work and go to school.

Agree! Nice gesture, but once again the families and kids that didn’t prepare financially, but still chose a 4yr college with debt are the winners.

Exactly

That's why I said it would be more fair to just give every student the same amount. Take the cost of paying off all the debt, divide it by the number of students, and give that to them

Debt isn't a perfect measure of poverty or need. There were lots of kids there with lower debt because they transferred in from a cheaper college or worked summer jobs or had their parents deplete their savings and go into debt for them.

You know what? Life isn't fair. Those who do the best are not just hard workers; they are the hard workers who had the opportunities at the right time. Robert Smith cannot help everyone, but he chose the graduating class of 2019 at Morehouse College as the ones that he was going to help this time. He is donating $40M and there are some 400 students that did get a helping hand from his gesture. He made a wonderful gesture and he should be applauded for that.

Nickpicking how and what he did just because it wasn't the way you would have done it is the type of attitude that would make some people just not bother trying to be generous in the future. So, rather than criticizing how he did it, why don't you go and donate $10M of money to help those other students and we can sit here and criticize you for how you chose to do it, who you chose to benefit and so on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is he paying off all the credit card debt of the parents that didn't take out loans, but are going into debt helping their kids?

Is he paying back those that didn't get a new house, but saved up money for college instead?


This is just another person helping out people that chose not to help themselves. Go pay off the community college kids debt while they work and go to school.

Agree! Nice gesture, but once again the families and kids that didn’t prepare financially, but still chose a 4yr college with debt are the winners.

Exactly

That's why I said it would be more fair to just give every student the same amount. Take the cost of paying off all the debt, divide it by the number of students, and give that to them

Debt isn't a perfect measure of poverty or need. There were lots of kids there with lower debt because they transferred in from a cheaper college or worked summer jobs or had their parents deplete their savings and go into debt for them.

Yet when actual debt free students from the 2019 class were interviewed, there were no sour grapes, they were as inspired by the generosity as the students receiving the most

Try interviewing the parents who worked their asses off so their students was going to the college debt-free. Asking the students is completely pointless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is he paying off all the credit card debt of the parents that didn't take out loans, but are going into debt helping their kids?

Is he paying back those that didn't get a new house, but saved up money for college instead?


This is just another person helping out people that chose not to help themselves. Go pay off the community college kids debt while they work and go to school.

Agree! Nice gesture, but once again the families and kids that didn’t prepare financially, but still chose a 4yr college with debt are the winners.

Exactly

That's why I said it would be more fair to just give every student the same amount. Take the cost of paying off all the debt, divide it by the number of students, and give that to them

Debt isn't a perfect measure of poverty or need. There were lots of kids there with lower debt because they transferred in from a cheaper college or worked summer jobs or had their parents deplete their savings and go into debt for them.

You know what? Life isn't fair. Those who do the best are not just hard workers; they are the hard workers who had the opportunities at the right time. Robert Smith cannot help everyone, but he chose the graduating class of 2019 at Morehouse College as the ones that he was going to help this time. He is donating $40M and there are some 400 students that did get a helping hand from his gesture. He made a wonderful gesture and he should be applauded for that.

Nickpicking how and what he did just because it wasn't the way you would have done it is the type of attitude that would make some people just not bother trying to be generous in the future. So, rather than criticizing how he did it, why don't you go and donate $10M of money to help those other students and we can sit here and criticize you for how you chose to do it, who you chose to benefit and so on.

"Life isn't fair" is the dumbest rationale to explain why kids who choose debt and a 4 year college degree should be rewarded, over others who had to drop out and go PT to community college and get a job to pay for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is he paying off all the credit card debt of the parents that didn't take out loans, but are going into debt helping their kids?

Is he paying back those that didn't get a new house, but saved up money for college instead?


This is just another person helping out people that chose not to help themselves. Go pay off the community college kids debt while they work and go to school.

Agree! Nice gesture, but once again the families and kids that didn’t prepare financially, but still chose a 4yr college with debt are the winners.

Exactly

That's why I said it would be more fair to just give every student the same amount. Take the cost of paying off all the debt, divide it by the number of students, and give that to them

Debt isn't a perfect measure of poverty or need. There were lots of kids there with lower debt because they transferred in from a cheaper college or worked summer jobs or had their parents deplete their savings and go into debt for them.

You know what? Life isn't fair. Those who do the best are not just hard workers; they are the hard workers who had the opportunities at the right time. Robert Smith cannot help everyone, but he chose the graduating class of 2019 at Morehouse College as the ones that he was going to help this time. He is donating $40M and there are some 400 students that did get a helping hand from his gesture. He made a wonderful gesture and he should be applauded for that.

Nickpicking how and what he did just because it wasn't the way you would have done it is the type of attitude that would make some people just not bother trying to be generous in the future. So, rather than criticizing how he did it, why don't you go and donate $10M of money to help those other students and we can sit here and criticize you for how you chose to do it, who you chose to benefit and so on.

"Life isn't fair" is the dumbest rationale to explain why kids who choose debt and a 4 year college degree should be rewarded, over others who had to drop out and go PT to community college and get a job to pay for it.

Could you imagine the drop-outs of this actual year or Morehouse who had to go back to work and had to leave last year or the year before? They are now sitting on no degree and tons of debt. Poverty calling their name. Bet they feel great right about now. But again, life isn't fair.

[Anonymous]

These youngsters are lucky, right place, right time
Not everyone has the same luck
Stop hating