Cardozo Feeder Pattern Middle School

[Anonymous]

Banneker people have offered to work with Shaw to support improved MS programming in the neighborhood but Save Shaw can’t move away from the demand for a stand alone MS on the Shaw site. The result is Banneker gets built at Shaw and Shaw gets nothing. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Here are the latest budget files. DCPS is doubling down on the Banneker move. No plan to address the lack of quality MS programming for Shaw. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ontbjkp1y9c5cz2/AABXZ0UjTHoSq94bUirWvi5da/Budget%20Responses/D.C.%20Public%20Schools?dl=0&subfolder_nav_tracking=1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^ Yes. Entitled.

School boundaries and locations are not fixed. They change.

You have a right to public education. You do not have a right to public education in the facility of your choice

We do have a right to public feedback and discussion involving the affected school communities *before* dramatic decisions and major reversals in course are made, no? Big meetings are held over much much less.

+1000. In addition, the community has been patiently waiting year after year while our elected officials have been telling us Shaw MS will be coming soon. They knew all along that was not so but kept lying to us. This was just handled poorly all around and everyone got screwed, the Shaw MS supporters, Banneker supporters, the community. No one is a winner here folks.

I completely agree with this sentiment. However, and this is honest, I wonder what the right course of action is. What do we as parents and citizens do next?

Do you throw up your hands and give up? Do you accept the decision of Banneker getting the space, and move on to advocate for the next space? Do you focus your energies on reversing the Banneker decision? Do you focus on improving the current Middle school feeder pathway? Do you move out of DC completely?

We all only have so much energy and time. And there are multiple choices here for each of us to follow. We can all agree that the decision making process was completely flawed... but what do we do next. And what will have the greatest impact on the most people.

And my problem with these Cardozo Feeder meetings is that, at least from my perspective, everyone is working a different one of these angles. So if all of our goals are different (even if we all ultimately just want good Middle School options for DC kids), how do we ever make any progress?

It would be extremely helpful if the Banneker supporters joined forces with Shaw MS supporters to demand a plan that would be beneficial to both communities. Unlikely, I know. I totally get it that Banneker is getting the renovated facility that they justly deserve, so why would they rock the boat? I'm not dumping on Banneker. But it saddens me that everyone is playing to Bowser's plans and the divide and conquer strategy was intentional, make no mistake about it. And it worked! As we continue to yawn and shrug, she'll keep on pulling this crap on other communities.

Yes this is a good idea. Banneker folks via their silly twitter feed are all about them selves and sound very entitled to something that they we just given 5 minutes ago, and something they never asked for it seems. And the Save Shaw people just want to derail the whole Banneker move whatever the cost.

I hope that DCPS and the DME realized that those people are a vocal few.

I don't agree that the Save Shaw people "just want to derail the whole Banneker move". I've been to several meetings and suggestions for co-locating at the current Shaw MS site with shared space for both have been rejected outright.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Banneker people have offered to work with Shaw to support improved MS programming in the neighborhood but Save Shaw can’t move away from the demand for a stand alone MS on the Shaw site. The result is Banneker gets built at Shaw and Shaw gets nothing. Thanks.

I'm confused, how would "improved MS programming" compensate for having no facility? Improved MS programming where?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ Yes. Entitled.

School boundaries and locations are not fixed. They change.

You have a right to public education. You do not have a right to public education in the facility of your choice

We do have a right to public feedback and discussion involving the affected school communities *before* dramatic decisions and major reversals in course are made, no? Big meetings are held over much much less.

+1000. In addition, the community has been patiently waiting year after year while our elected officials have been telling us Shaw MS will be coming soon. They knew all along that was not so but kept lying to us. This was just handled poorly all around and everyone got screwed, the Shaw MS supporters, Banneker supporters, the community. No one is a winner here folks.

I completely agree with this sentiment. However, and this is honest, I wonder what the right course of action is. What do we as parents and citizens do next?

Do you throw up your hands and give up? Do you accept the decision of Banneker getting the space, and move on to advocate for the next space? Do you focus your energies on reversing the Banneker decision? Do you focus on improving the current Middle school feeder pathway? Do you move out of DC completely?

We all only have so much energy and time. And there are multiple choices here for each of us to follow. We can all agree that the decision making process was completely flawed... but what do we do next. And what will have the greatest impact on the most people.

And my problem with these Cardozo Feeder meetings is that, at least from my perspective, everyone is working a different one of these angles. So if all of our goals are different (even if we all ultimately just want good Middle School options for DC kids), how do we ever make any progress?

It would be extremely helpful if the Banneker supporters joined forces with Shaw MS supporters to demand a plan that would be beneficial to both communities. Unlikely, I know. I totally get it that Banneker is getting the renovated facility that they justly deserve, so why would they rock the boat? I'm not dumping on Banneker. But it saddens me that everyone is playing to Bowser's plans and the divide and conquer strategy was intentional, make no mistake about it. And it worked! As we continue to yawn and shrug, she'll keep on pulling this crap on other communities.

Yes this is a good idea. Banneker folks via their silly twitter feed are all about them selves and sound very entitled to something that they we just given 5 minutes ago, and something they never asked for it seems. And the Save Shaw people just want to derail the whole Banneker move whatever the cost.

I hope that DCPS and the DME realized that those people are a vocal few.

I don't agree that the Save Shaw people "just want to derail the whole Banneker move". I've been to several meetings and suggestions for co-locating at the current Shaw MS site with shared space for both have been rejected outright.

This Save Shaw person truly wants co-location. Just like SWW and McKinley Middle/Tech. I think it is a really great model that can operate efficiently and I would love to have Banneker in the neighborhood. It's just that we must also stand up for our middle school or they will continue to treat it like crap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Banneker people have offered to work with Shaw to support improved MS programming in the neighborhood but Save Shaw can’t move away from the demand for a stand alone MS on the Shaw site. The result is Banneker gets built at Shaw and Shaw gets nothing. Thanks.

They will say that, but they don't actually care and won't follow through.

[Anonymous]

Half the dcps middle schools in the city are under enrolled, low preformimg and in some cases unsafe. Why don't they work to improve the school they have and increase the feeder patterns for those school instead of building more multi million dollar building that will sit half empty??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Half the dcps middle schools in the city are under enrolled, low preformimg and in some cases unsafe. Why don't they work to improve the school they have and increase the feeder patterns for those school instead of building more multi million dollar building that will sit half empty??

This. Even before the Banneker thing, the fact that they DGAF about Cardozo Middle was obvious. Almost nobody, of any SES, is willing to send their child there. And nobody wants to go to a school that the school district doesn't care about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Half the dcps middle schools in the city are under enrolled, low preformimg and in some cases unsafe. Why don't they work to improve the school they have and increase the feeder patterns for those school instead of building more multi million dollar building that will sit half empty??

This. Even before the Banneker thing, the fact that they DGAF about Cardozo Middle was obvious. Almost nobody, of any SES, is willing to send their child there. And nobody wants to go to a school that the school district doesn't care about.

Yep. And there is still no indication they care. Unfortunately.

[Anonymous]

Hey 20:03 - SWW and SWW@FS are not co-located.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ Yes. Entitled.

School boundaries and locations are not fixed. They change.

You have a right to public education. You do not have a right to public education in the facility of your choice

We do have a right to public feedback and discussion involving the affected school communities *before* dramatic decisions and major reversals in course are made, no? Big meetings are held over much much less.

+1000. In addition, the community has been patiently waiting year after year while our elected officials have been telling us Shaw MS will be coming soon. They knew all along that was not so but kept lying to us. This was just handled poorly all around and everyone got screwed, the Shaw MS supporters, Banneker supporters, the community. No one is a winner here folks.

I completely agree with this sentiment. However, and this is honest, I wonder what the right course of action is. What do we as parents and citizens do next?

Do you throw up your hands and give up? Do you accept the decision of Banneker getting the space, and move on to advocate for the next space? Do you focus your energies on reversing the Banneker decision? Do you focus on improving the current Middle school feeder pathway? Do you move out of DC completely?

We all only have so much energy and time. And there are multiple choices here for each of us to follow. We can all agree that the decision making process was completely flawed... but what do we do next. And what will have the greatest impact on the most people.

And my problem with these Cardozo Feeder meetings is that, at least from my perspective, everyone is working a different one of these angles. So if all of our goals are different (even if we all ultimately just want good Middle School options for DC kids), how do we ever make any progress?

It would be extremely helpful if the Banneker supporters joined forces with Shaw MS supporters to demand a plan that would be beneficial to both communities. Unlikely, I know. I totally get it that Banneker is getting the renovated facility that they justly deserve, so why would they rock the boat? I'm not dumping on Banneker. But it saddens me that everyone is playing to Bowser's plans and the divide and conquer strategy was intentional, make no mistake about it. And it worked! As we continue to yawn and shrug, she'll keep on pulling this crap on other communities.

Yes this is a good idea. Banneker folks via their silly twitter feed are all about them selves and sound very entitled to something that they we just given 5 minutes ago, and something they never asked for it seems. And the Save Shaw people just want to derail the whole Banneker move whatever the cost.

I hope that DCPS and the DME realized that those people are a vocal few.

I don't agree that the Save Shaw people "just want to derail the whole Banneker move". I've been to several meetings and suggestions for co-locating at the current Shaw MS site with shared space for both have been rejected outright.

This Save Shaw person truly wants co-location. Just like SWW and McKinley Middle/Tech. I think it is a really great model that can operate efficiently and I would love to have Banneker in the neighborhood. It's just that we must also stand up for our middle school or they will continue to treat it like crap.

Fully agree. Not clear why the loudest voices demand a stand alone MS on the Shaw site and nothing else. It’s self defeating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey 20:03 - SWW and SWW@FS are not co-located.

Wish they were. The school is good as it is. Collocation would be better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Banneker people have offered to work with Shaw to support improved MS programming in the neighborhood but Save Shaw can’t move away from the demand for a stand alone MS on the Shaw site. The result is Banneker gets built at Shaw and Shaw gets nothing. Thanks.

I'm confused, how would "improved MS programming" compensate for having no facility? Improved MS programming where?

Locations could be Old Banneker, Cardozo, Seaton or Garnet Pat. Finding space is easy compared to programming and staffing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey 20:03 - SWW and SWW@FS are not co-located.

Wish they were. The school is good as it is. Collocation would be better.

No. SWW High School will not be benefitted in any way by adding 6th-8th graders to its long-time, standalone site on the GW campus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey 20:03 - SWW and SWW@FS are not co-located.

Wish they were. The school is good as it is. Collocation would be better.

No. SWW High School will not be benefitted in any way by adding 6th-8th graders to its long-time, standalone site on the GW campus.

The suggestion wasn’t to move SWW. Clearly not feasible or desirable. But to say it would be an advantage if it were not split over two campuses almost a mile from each other. The opportunity to do something along these lines exists in Shaw with the large Shaw campus and the neighboring Seaton site that is due for modernization.