FRiend got proposed to with a 4 carat ring

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I saved a mint buying the new lab grown diamond and the icing on the cake is conflict free. Fiancée loves it and has no idea.


Her mother will figure it out and she’ll kill you!

Or her daughter after they both die. Happened to my good friend and she thought a lot less of her dad after that.


Yeah almost like he embezeled money or killed someone.


He probably has done other dishonest things, yes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I saved a mint buying the new lab grown diamond and the icing on the cake is conflict free. Fiancée loves it and has no idea.


Her mother will figure it out and she’ll kill you!

Or her daughter after they both die. Happened to my good friend and she thought a lot less of her dad after that.


How would you ever know? It’s still a diamond, not Cz or moissanite. It’s probably without occlusions like a mined diamond would have, but wouldn’t that just make the quality higher?
Anonymous
So what... There are 4 c’s to a diamond. It’s big but could be on the low end of the diamond spectrum. There are lab created diamonds that look just as good.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I saved a mint buying the new lab grown diamond and the icing on the cake is conflict free. Fiancée loves it and has no idea.


Her mother will figure it out and she’ll kill you!

Or her daughter after they both die. Happened to my good friend and she thought a lot less of her dad after that.


How is that even possible? Lab-grown diamonds were not a thing a generation ago. It is not the same as CZ.
Anonymous
Sounds fun. "Smoke 'em if you 'em." This is a guy with money who is willing to spend it. Ka-ching!
Definitely jealous.
Anonymous
I think that’s a huge waste of money, especially because everyone will assume it’s fake.
Anonymous
I wouldn’t be jealous. In fact, I’d be the opposite. To me, spending a lot of money on jewelry is just stupid- no matter how rich you are. Give me real estate or a nice car or fabulous travel. Jewelry? No.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I saved a mint buying the new lab grown diamond and the icing on the cake is conflict free. Fiancée loves it and has no idea.


Her mother will figure it out and she’ll kill you!

Or her daughter after they both die. Happened to my good friend and she thought a lot less of her dad after that.


How is that even possible? Lab-grown diamonds were not a thing a generation ago. It is not the same as CZ.


I’m not sure exactly what kind of fake diamond it was, but it was a fake diamond that her dad had told her mom was real. For their entire marriage.
Anonymous
See this is why i say always get the big rocks with lots of flaws
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think that’s a huge waste of money, especially because everyone will assume it’s fake.


Exactly -seems weird. Unless that is what she wanted.

A lot of women like to choose their ring. That might mean getting a small diamond of very good quality that they can pass down to their own daughter or grand daughter some day. Or a yellow or rose diamond in a pretty setting of her choice.
Mine is a sapphire which was my choice.
Someone who buys his fiancée a big fake rock is pretty weird - especially if he tells her ‘after the wedding’ that it’s fake.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t be jealous. In fact, I’d be the opposite. To me, spending a lot of money on jewelry is just stupid- no matter how rich you are. Give me real estate or a nice car or fabulous travel. Jewelry? No.


Well, real estate is joint property and cars depreciate. The idea is that the jewelry retains its value and it’s always yours.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Sounds fun. "Smoke 'em if you 'em." This is a guy with money who is willing to spend it. Ka-ching!
Definitely jealous.


Or he’s making payments. I knew a couple with a giant ring who couldn’t afford a starter home for 10 more years! OP when they buy a nice house together right after the wedding, THEN I’ll be jealous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I saved a mint buying the new lab grown diamond and the icing on the cake is conflict free. Fiancée loves it and has no idea.


Same. Told fiancée after wedding. She’s now proud it’s conflict free. Win win.


What kind of weenie tells his fiancé ‘after the wedding’. You’re going to have a terrible marriage with your manipulative communication style.


+1. Good Lord. After the wedding? Buy a lab diamond if you want, but you pulled an end run on your fiancee, now wife. She'll look at that ring forever and know this. I'd be horrified.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I saved a mint buying the new lab grown diamond and the icing on the cake is conflict free. Fiancée loves it and has no idea.


Same. Told fiancée after wedding. She’s now proud it’s conflict free. Win win.


What kind of weenie tells his fiancé ‘after the wedding’. You’re going to have a terrible marriage with your manipulative communication style.


+1. Good Lord. After the wedding? Buy a lab diamond if you want, but you pulled an end run on your fiancee, now wife. She'll look at that ring forever and know this. I'd be horrified.


Yea, that is a little back handed. I actually told my now DH that I was open to lab created, or moisanite, because the conflict free thing was a big deal for me. But I wouldn't have been cool with getting a big 3 carat rock and being led to believe it was the real deal. I'd expect him to give me the specs on it shortly after presenting it to me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t be jealous. In fact, I’d be the opposite. To me, spending a lot of money on jewelry is just stupid- no matter how rich you are. Give me real estate or a nice car or fabulous travel. Jewelry? No.


Well, real estate is joint property and cars depreciate. The idea is that the jewelry retains its value and it’s always yours.



NP. A few thoughts here.

1. My assumption is that if DH-to-be can afford a 4ct, it’s nice and he is well aware of making all of the Cs come together nicely.
2. He can probably also afford the real estate, cars (depreciate quickly) and fabulous travel (intrinsic value) too.
3. Diamonds have such a high markup cost, nearly 50% or more for each use of resale, and are recycled through a consumer driven market based largely on sentiment. The resale value of a diamond ring (in comparison to an ivory brooch, for example), dramatically reduces in a sellers market.
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