What the hell is wrong with these dance moms and teachers! It’s striper training

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dance competition isn’t real dance.

It's fake dance? They're not really dancing? Please explain.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think this is a suburbs thing? I've seen them on Certifikid etc., but don't know anyone personally here in DC who has their kids doing it. My 7yo's friends do jazz, tap, ballet, etc.

Actually I’m in NoVa and was wondering the same. I’ve never heard of these types of studios around here. Are you in the DMV op?

Nope, don’t deluded yourself. It’s almost every studio. Unless you are affiliated with a university or major dance company, it’s pretty likely at least one of your teachers is a ho. I have an MFA in dance and would never, ever allow my children (either gender) to take dance at a studio. And yes, I earned that snobbery.

It's pretty likely that at least one of the teachers does paid sex work? Is that what you meant to say? If so, I am wondering how you know that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a suburbs thing? I've seen them on Certifikid etc., but don't know anyone personally here in DC who has their kids doing it. My 7yo's friends do jazz, tap, ballet, etc.

Actually I’m in NoVa and was wondering the same. I’ve never heard of these types of studios around here. Are you in the DMV op?

Nope, don’t deluded yourself. It’s almost every studio. Unless you are affiliated with a university or major dance company, it’s pretty likely at least one of your teachers is a ho. I have an MFA in dance and would never, ever allow my children (either gender) to take dance at a studio. And yes, I earned that snobbery.

Second PP above is totally wrong despite that proudly "earned snobbery." There are many serious local dance studios that have nothing whatsoever to do with competitive dance and are not affiliated with universities or pro companies. Maybe this PP thinks the term "studio" somehow always means "competitive dance" but that is false. My DD has danced for 14 years at two different studios and neither did any competitive dance; both focus mainly on classical ballet and modern dance, and the handful of jazz and tap classes perform in very modest, age-appropriate costumes. I could list probably a dozen other studios in the region like that. Some send teen dancers to summer programs at profesdional companies because the dancers are that strong.

I find it hard to believe that someone with "an MFA in dance" is this unaware of the existence of many reputable non-competitive dance schools that are not "affiliated with a university or major dance company." Maybe PP is located somewhere that isn't the DC region and wherever PP lives the focus is all on glitzy, sexy trophy-winning teams. But saying "almost every studio" is like that is wrong.

[Anonymous]

Look at collegiate jazz dance teams on youtube. There are lots of incredible routines that don't require the stripper look. Find a studio that focuses on these. I'm horrified that I once let my kindergartner wear fishnet hose, though there were no raunchy moves in the dance routine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look at collegiate jazz dance teams on youtube. There are lots of incredible routines that don't require the stripper look. Find a studio that focuses on these. I'm horrified that I once let my kindergartner wear fishnet hose, though there were no raunchy moves in the dance routine.

Actually, those dancers are more likely to have come from competition studios than from traditional conservatory dance training. The colleges just require them to wear more clothes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at collegiate jazz dance teams on youtube. There are lots of incredible routines that don't require the stripper look. Find a studio that focuses on these. I'm horrified that I once let my kindergartner wear fishnet hose, though there were no raunchy moves in the dance routine.

Actually, those dancers are more likely to have come from competition studios than from traditional conservatory dance training. The colleges just require them to wear more clothes.

See the bolded type. Maybe it was your experience or your kid's experience of college dance but it's not universally true, or even necessarily "more likely." I know quite a few kids doing dance teams at colleges right now, about five, and all came out of dance studios that weren't competition studios. They studied jazz for as many years as they studied ballet and never were on any competitive team. None was on a high school dance team either, because there was not time to do that plus their studio classes and performances.

If by "conservatory" you're thinking of strictly ballet conservatories, there aren't that many all-ballet-and-nothing-else schools (yes, those do exist but are pretty rarified); even if they do mostly ballet, studios tend to offer other forms of dance both for variety and so they can frankly make some income.

Lots of assumptions on this thread about what is and isn't taught at studios/schools/conservatories.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok- so new to this dance thing- my daughter is 11 and I’m a pretty with it mom- but have these people lost their minds! It’s like a cult. And the outfits and dance moves are often beyond ridiculous.
These people are crazy- do they realize this is more like the pageant category than anything remotely athletic. I’m biting my tongue at these silly dance competitions—my daughter loves it- but as an educated normal working women- I am stressing to my daughter this is a fun activity to help learn dance for school dance team- but the makeup and outfits are just for fun and this is not a life time profession.
Our studio is pretty chill and outfits and moves appropriate- and they actually score well- although with 700 trophies doesn’t everyone???-but these little girs!! For real! And when your 8 year old is performing stripper moves, please use your head and talk to your dance teacher. No it’s actually not cute- it’s gross!
Signed- never be crazy dance mom.
And by the way, paying 500 dollars to compete means this is purely a business - not a true competition on skill.

What the hell is wrong with these dance moms and teachers! It’s striper training

Tell me more about how you are an educated working womAn

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok- so new to this dance thing- my daughter is 11 and I’m a pretty with it mom- but have these people lost their minds! It’s like a cult. And the outfits and dance moves are often beyond ridiculous.
These people are crazy- do they realize this is more like the pageant category than anything remotely athletic. I’m biting my tongue at these silly dance competitions—my daughter loves it- but as an educated normal working women- I am stressing to my daughter this is a fun activity to help learn dance for school dance team- but the makeup and outfits are just for fun and this is not a life time profession.
Our studio is pretty chill and outfits and moves appropriate- and they actually score well- although with 700 trophies doesn’t everyone???-but these little girs!! For real! And when your 8 year old is performing stripper moves, please use your head and talk to your dance teacher. No it’s actually not cute- it’s gross!
Signed- never be crazy dance mom.
And by the way, paying 500 dollars to compete means this is purely a business - not a true competition on skill.

What the hell is wrong with these dance moms and teachers! It’s striper training

Tell me more about how you are an educated working womAn

Not OP but...So, PP, you've never, ever had an autocorrect flub yourself? You're the paragon of perfection in your typing, so you're qualified to snark at OP?

I think the capital in the word "woman" in your response above disproves that....

Keep the eye-rolls to yourself if you don't have anything constructive to add to the discussion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at collegiate jazz dance teams on youtube. There are lots of incredible routines that don't require the stripper look. Find a studio that focuses on these. I'm horrified that I once let my kindergartner wear fishnet hose, though there were no raunchy moves in the dance routine.

Actually, those dancers are more likely to have come from competition studios than from traditional conservatory dance training. The colleges just require them to wear more clothes.

100% correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at collegiate jazz dance teams on youtube. There are lots of incredible routines that don't require the stripper look. Find a studio that focuses on these. I'm horrified that I once let my kindergartner wear fishnet hose, though there were no raunchy moves in the dance routine.

Actually, those dancers are more likely to have come from competition studios than from traditional conservatory dance training. The colleges just require them to wear more clothes.

See the bolded type. Maybe it was your experience or your kid's experience of college dance but it's not universally true, or even necessarily "more likely." I know quite a few kids doing dance teams at colleges right now, about five, and all came out of dance studios that weren't competition studios. They studied jazz for as many years as they studied ballet and never were on any competitive team. None was on a high school dance team either, because there was not time to do that plus their studio classes and performances.

If by "conservatory" you're thinking of strictly ballet conservatories, there aren't that many all-ballet-and-nothing-else schools (yes, those do exist but are pretty rarified); even if they do mostly ballet, studios tend to offer other forms of dance both for variety and so they can frankly make some income.

Lots of assumptions on this thread about what is and isn't taught at studios/schools/conservatories.

Ist poster is correct.

2nd poster is not.

[Anonymous]

There are lots of dance studios who focus more on the craft than this kind of tarted up showmanship. I hate it too. Both my girls dance and loce it, but I have no tolerence for the kind of sexualized/glamorized crap that passes for dance on Dancemoms. Check out Joy of Motion or a ballet school of you want real dance.

[Anonymous]

If you truly think the dances are in appropriate, find a different studio. Many competitions make a point of looking out for age-appropriate dances. They don't want to see 8 year olds acting like strippers.
DD has been in dance competitions for 4 years, and some studios are, IMO, too overtly sexy. That's their choice. Our studio focuses on dance technique and expression.
Other DD is in first year of competitive gymnastics and is explicitly forbidden by her coaches from wearing make up.

[Anonymous]

My daughter attends a studio that has competitive dancing. I never understood why there’s so much focus on the dancers holding their leg up. It seems to be every other “move”. It’s gross!

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately just because your kids dance at a "technique" studio that doesn't participate in competitions doesn't mean you can avoid dance-mom personalities and drama... trust me...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a suburbs thing? I've seen them on Certifikid etc., but don't know anyone personally here in DC who has their kids doing it. My 7yo's friends do jazz, tap, ballet, etc.

Actually I’m in NoVa and was wondering the same. I’ve never heard of these types of studios around here. Are you in the DMV op?

There are 2-3 studios in NoVa that have grown tremendously in just the last five years. My daughter loves it and in my opinion routines and costumes for the younger ages have been generally appropriate, but I have grown increasingly uncomfortable with the routines of the older age groups so we are seriously considering pulling her out which is going to be really hard.

My elementary age kids are in a dance studio in NoVa. I haven't noticed the sexualized stuff (yet?). What studios are you talking about? What are considered good dance schools in NoVa?