Sugar/bread can be addicting. But so can being skinny.

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Anonymous wrote:Not flaming, just wondering what “reverently” looks like.

Forgive the use of this word! I’m overtired and at a conference.

There’s more immediate respect from women and willingness to go out of their way (helping with things, holding the door) on behalf of men. I went from a chubby eight to a regular size six. Not much, but apparently enough!

A chubby size 8? Delusional.

What makes you say that? Why is 8 not chubby? I mean I went from 1 to 2 and I find that I don't like it. I am 5'4". unless she is very tall, 8 is not just chubby, imo, but overweight. I post only because I am sick of people like you that propagate the idea that overweight is the new normal. I am sorry if you are very overweight and think 8 is not chubby, but your attitude spreads to your kids who then think being chubby is not being overweight. You and your ilk are part of the problem. Size 8 is overweight for an average height woman.

The average American woman is a size 14. Your view of weight is disordered.

Aboslutely not, yours is. Anyone who thinks size 14 is fine is living ins some alternate reality to make themselves feel ok with being obese. Average American woman is overweight and a lot. Just bcs this is what people weight now doesn't make it alright, alright, alright! Keep fooling yourself all you want. All those size 14 have fat around their hearts and in their arteries, heck some skinny people have it too. Nothing to be proud of that 14 is average size for American woman. Delusional, it is sad to see that most of the country is delusional. I feel sad for you.

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Yes, I agree that the fact that majority of Americans are overweight or obese doesn't mean that the average size is ideal or healthy. I hate normalizing excess weight too, it's very, very harmful.

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Anonymous wrote:Threads like this make me so glad I recovered from my eating disorder. I'm 5'4", weight always around 125, counting calories obsessively and starving to get to 120, then immediately rebounding up to 130. In eating disorder recovery I started eating a normal amount of food every day (between 2000 and 3000 calories depending on how active/hungry I am on any given day-- I don't work out but I walk a lot) and now my weight comfortably sits just below 120. I can't imagine living on 1000 or 1500 calories a day anymore.

This is just to say that the obsessiveness can actually keep you heavier. Getting back in touch with your body's hunger cues can be a really good thing.

How do you maintain 120 on 2000-3000 a day?

I assume this is just my body's natural set point. I walk between 10 and 20k steps a day and eat whatever I want, not counting calories but I know its generally above 2000. Some days are more or less depending on appetite. I've been between 118 and 121 for more than 5 years now since recovering, excluding part of that time when I was pregnant and gained about 25 pounds. The pregnancy weight came off on its own between months 4-6 postpartum (I was breastfeeding so my appetite was high and I was eating a lot at the time).

Here's an example day of eating:

Breakfast: Bagel with a couple of slices of cheese and a couple of slices of tomato
Lunch: Bean and cheese quesadilla with guacamole and salsa
Snack: An apple and a kind bar
Dinner: Fairly large portion of Thai stir fry with chicken, veggies, noodles, and sauce
Dessert: smallish bowl of ice cream

I have a theory that people who restrict their calories so low end up eating more in a "rebound" effect than they would if they just ate a satisfying amount of mostly healthy food every day. I know that was true for me before I recovered from my eating disorder.

You must know that you have a very fast metabolism. Most women cannot have ice cream daily. If I ate this much a I would gain a tremendous amount of weight. If I eat even 1500 calories, even with 10000 steps and working out, I gain a lot.

New poster here. I eat mostly like this woman, and am pretty consistently 118-120 at 5'5". I totally agree that NOT dieting has preserved my metabolism through middle age. Also a former bulimic and still dealing with shame and dental issues from all that.

I can't imagine eating like this woman and NEEDING to diet. Even as a very young person I could not eat this amount of food. Your metabolism is fast. It's a good thing! Accept that you have a good thing that others do not! Unless there is an apocalypse and you need to hold onto every calorie, you have gotten lucky in this particular aspect of life, pp. LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:Threads like this make me so glad I recovered from my eating disorder. I'm 5'4", weight always around 125, counting calories obsessively and starving to get to 120, then immediately rebounding up to 130. In eating disorder recovery I started eating a normal amount of food every day (between 2000 and 3000 calories depending on how active/hungry I am on any given day-- I don't work out but I walk a lot) and now my weight comfortably sits just below 120. I can't imagine living on 1000 or 1500 calories a day anymore.

This is just to say that the obsessiveness can actually keep you heavier. Getting back in touch with your body's hunger cues can be a really good thing.

How do you maintain 120 on 2000-3000 a day?

I assume this is just my body's natural set point. I walk between 10 and 20k steps a day and eat whatever I want, not counting calories but I know its generally above 2000. Some days are more or less depending on appetite. I've been between 118 and 121 for more than 5 years now since recovering, excluding part of that time when I was pregnant and gained about 25 pounds. The pregnancy weight came off on its own between months 4-6 postpartum (I was breastfeeding so my appetite was high and I was eating a lot at the time).

Here's an example day of eating:

Breakfast: Bagel with a couple of slices of cheese and a couple of slices of tomato
Lunch: Bean and cheese quesadilla with guacamole and salsa
Snack: An apple and a kind bar
Dinner: Fairly large portion of Thai stir fry with chicken, veggies, noodles, and sauce
Dessert: smallish bowl of ice cream

I have a theory that people who restrict their calories so low end up eating more in a "rebound" effect than they would if they just ate a satisfying amount of mostly healthy food every day. I know that was true for me before I recovered from my eating disorder.

You must know that you have a very fast metabolism. Most women cannot have ice cream daily. If I ate this much a I would gain a tremendous amount of weight. If I eat even 1500 calories, even with 10000 steps and working out, I gain a lot.

New poster here. I eat mostly like this woman, and am pretty consistently 118-120 at 5'5". I totally agree that NOT dieting has preserved my metabolism through middle age. Also a former bulimic and still dealing with shame and dental issues from all that.

I can't imagine eating like this woman and NEEDING to diet. Even as a very young person I could not eat this amount of food. Your metabolism is fast. It's a good thing! Accept that you have a good thing that others do not! Unless there is an apocalypse and you need to hold onto every calorie, you have gotten lucky in this particular aspect of life, pp. LOL.

What have you people done to your metabolism if you think that daily menu is a lot of food? I could add a whole meal to that and not gain weight. I am almost 50, and I have dieted only recently due to some small weight gain. I can have ice cream daily and not gain weight. I can have bread and butter and jam daily and not gain weight. Honest question, were you overweight and lost a lot of weight? I do think that this makes a ton of difference to how much you can eat daily and gain or not gain weight. I was never overweight, even when pregnant I never gained over 20lbs, granted with my second I had a problem putting on weight and wished that I put on more weight. I ate and ate during the last trimester, but just had health issues. I think we all need to move a lot more than we do. I am not buying eat less and be sedentary lifestyle at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Threads like this make me so glad I recovered from my eating disorder. I'm 5'4", weight always around 125, counting calories obsessively and starving to get to 120, then immediately rebounding up to 130. In eating disorder recovery I started eating a normal amount of food every day (between 2000 and 3000 calories depending on how active/hungry I am on any given day-- I don't work out but I walk a lot) and now my weight comfortably sits just below 120. I can't imagine living on 1000 or 1500 calories a day anymore.

This is just to say that the obsessiveness can actually keep you heavier. Getting back in touch with your body's hunger cues can be a really good thing.

How do you maintain 120 on 2000-3000 a day?

I assume this is just my body's natural set point. I walk between 10 and 20k steps a day and eat whatever I want, not counting calories but I know its generally above 2000. Some days are more or less depending on appetite. I've been between 118 and 121 for more than 5 years now since recovering, excluding part of that time when I was pregnant and gained about 25 pounds. The pregnancy weight came off on its own between months 4-6 postpartum (I was breastfeeding so my appetite was high and I was eating a lot at the time).

Here's an example day of eating:

Breakfast: Bagel with a couple of slices of cheese and a couple of slices of tomato
Lunch: Bean and cheese quesadilla with guacamole and salsa
Snack: An apple and a kind bar
Dinner: Fairly large portion of Thai stir fry with chicken, veggies, noodles, and sauce
Dessert: smallish bowl of ice cream

I have a theory that people who restrict their calories so low end up eating more in a "rebound" effect than they would if they just ate a satisfying amount of mostly healthy food every day. I know that was true for me before I recovered from my eating disorder.

You must know that you have a very fast metabolism. Most women cannot have ice cream daily. If I ate this much a I would gain a tremendous amount of weight. If I eat even 1500 calories, even with 10000 steps and working out, I gain a lot.

New poster here. I eat mostly like this woman, and am pretty consistently 118-120 at 5'5". I totally agree that NOT dieting has preserved my metabolism through middle age. Also a former bulimic and still dealing with shame and dental issues from all that.

I can't imagine eating like this woman and NEEDING to diet. Even as a very young person I could not eat this amount of food. Your metabolism is fast. It's a good thing! Accept that you have a good thing that others do not! Unless there is an apocalypse and you need to hold onto every calorie, you have gotten lucky in this particular aspect of life, pp. LOL.

What have you people done to your metabolism if you think that daily menu is a lot of food? I could add a whole meal to that and not gain weight. I am almost 50, and I have dieted only recently due to some small weight gain. I can have ice cream daily and not gain weight. I can have bread and butter and jam daily and not gain weight. Honest question, were you overweight and lost a lot of weight? I do think that this makes a ton of difference to how much you can eat daily and gain or not gain weight. I was never overweight, even when pregnant I never gained over 20lbs, granted with my second I had a problem putting on weight and wished that I put on more weight. I ate and ate during the last trimester, but just had health issues. I think we all need to move a lot more than we do. I am not buying eat less and be sedentary lifestyle at all.

Why do you believe that everyone who does not have your metabolism has "done" something to theirs? Not everything is someone's "fault." Different bodies process food differently. It's not a big deal. I could never eat that much, even before having kids. One reason is that I am only 5'2", but based on what I see in my family, my metabolism is probably much slower too. And no, I am not a dieter, believe me, I try just to stay healthy and aware if I gain weight.

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I don't exercise and eat normally like the PP above. Ice cream 3-4 nights a week. I don't eat a lot, my portion sizes are quite small, but I do eat whatever I want. I'm 5'2'' and about 115 lbs. I sort of agree that eating normally preserves your metabolism. I've never thought of it like that.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't exercise and eat normally like the PP above. Ice cream 3-4 nights a week. I don't eat a lot, my portion sizes are quite small, but I do eat whatever I want. I'm 5'2'' and about 115 lbs. I sort of agree that eating normally preserves your metabolism. I've never thought of it like that.

5'3, 120, and agree that the PP has a pretty normal diet, and is also fairly active, which helps burn energy. Actually, dieting slows down one's metabolism, because your body thinks it's starving and tries to conserve energy by slowing down metabolism.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't exercise and eat normally like the PP above. Ice cream 3-4 nights a week. I don't eat a lot, my portion sizes are quite small, but I do eat whatever I want. I'm 5'2'' and about 115 lbs. I sort of agree that eating normally preserves your metabolism. I've never thought of it like that.

5'3, 120, and agree that the PP has a pretty normal diet, and is also fairly active, which helps burn energy. Actually, dieting slows down one's metabolism, because your body thinks it's starving and tries to conserve energy by slowing down metabolism.

Also, you guys would shudder at what my husband consumes--probably 3-4,000 calories per day, but even higher depending on his workout for the day. And, he's skinny. He's training for a half-Iron Man, which is why he's often starving and eats a lot. Calories in, calories out.

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Anonymous wrote:Not flaming, just wondering what “reverently” looks like.

Forgive the use of this word! I’m overtired and at a conference.

There’s more immediate respect from women and willingness to go out of their way (helping with things, holding the door) on behalf of men. I went from a chubby eight to a regular size six. Not much, but apparently enough!

A chubby size 8? Delusional.

Okay - not toned/flabby.

if you are around 2s and 4s like me. the 8 is basically obese. - an 8

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Anonymous wrote:Not flaming, just wondering what “reverently” looks like.

Forgive the use of this word! I’m overtired and at a conference.

There’s more immediate respect from women and willingness to go out of their way (helping with things, holding the door) on behalf of men. I went from a chubby eight to a regular size six. Not much, but apparently enough!

A chubby size 8? Delusional.

Okay - not toned/flabby.

if you are around 2s and 4s like me. the 8 is basically obese. - an 8

Like others, I think this is in the poster's head.

Most importantly, why do you care about the opinion of people who would be that swayed by you looking a little bit differently? It should make you mad, not feel enlightened.
Also- a size 6 is pretty average in the DC area (with vanity sizing etc). I don't think that would be getting you any special treatment. Is your conference in TX or the like? Thirdly, you admitted you are pretty frazzled right now, maybe that is what people are reacting to?

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Anonymous wrote:Not flaming, just wondering what “reverently” looks like.

Forgive the use of this word! I’m overtired and at a conference.

There’s more immediate respect from women and willingness to go out of their way (helping with things, holding the door) on behalf of men. I went from a chubby eight to a regular size six. Not much, but apparently enough!

A chubby size 8? Delusional.

Okay - not toned/flabby.

if you are around 2s and 4s like me. the 8 is basically obese. - an 8

Like others, I think this is in the poster's head.

Most importantly, why do you care about the opinion of people who would be that swayed by you looking a little bit differently? It should make you mad, not feel enlightened.
Also- a size 6 is pretty average in the DC area (with vanity sizing etc). I don't think that would be getting you any special treatment. Is your conference in TX or the like? Thirdly, you admitted you are pretty frazzled right now, maybe that is what people are reacting to?

I'm a 2, and 8 isn't chubby. Unless it's a LOFT 8 which is basically a 14.

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^^I wouldn’t know; I don’t shop at Ann Taylor Loft.

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Anonymous wrote:Threads like this make me so glad I recovered from my eating disorder. I'm 5'4", weight always around 125, counting calories obsessively and starving to get to 120, then immediately rebounding up to 130. In eating disorder recovery I started eating a normal amount of food every day (between 2000 and 3000 calories depending on how active/hungry I am on any given day-- I don't work out but I walk a lot) and now my weight comfortably sits just below 120. I can't imagine living on 1000 or 1500 calories a day anymore.

This is just to say that the obsessiveness can actually keep you heavier. Getting back in touch with your body's hunger cues can be a really good thing.

How do you maintain 120 on 2000-3000 a day?

I assume this is just my body's natural set point. I walk between 10 and 20k steps a day and eat whatever I want, not counting calories but I know its generally above 2000. Some days are more or less depending on appetite. I've been between 118 and 121 for more than 5 years now since recovering, excluding part of that time when I was pregnant and gained about 25 pounds. The pregnancy weight came off on its own between months 4-6 postpartum (I was breastfeeding so my appetite was high and I was eating a lot at the time).

Here's an example day of eating:

Breakfast: Bagel with a couple of slices of cheese and a couple of slices of tomato
Lunch: Bean and cheese quesadilla with guacamole and salsa
Snack: An apple and a kind bar
Dinner: Fairly large portion of Thai stir fry with chicken, veggies, noodles, and sauce
Dessert: smallish bowl of ice cream

I have a theory that people who restrict their calories so low end up eating more in a "rebound" effect than they would if they just ate a satisfying amount of mostly healthy food every day. I know that was true for me before I recovered from my eating disorder.

You must know that you have a very fast metabolism. Most women cannot have ice cream daily. If I ate this much a I would gain a tremendous amount of weight. If I eat even 1500 calories, even with 10000 steps and working out, I gain a lot.

New poster here. I eat mostly like this woman, and am pretty consistently 118-120 at 5'5". I totally agree that NOT dieting has preserved my metabolism through middle age. Also a former bulimic and still dealing with shame and dental issues from all that.

I can't imagine eating like this woman and NEEDING to diet. Even as a very young person I could not eat this amount of food. Your metabolism is fast. It's a good thing! Accept that you have a good thing that others do not! Unless there is an apocalypse and you need to hold onto every calorie, you have gotten lucky in this particular aspect of life, pp. LOL.

What have you people done to your metabolism if you think that daily menu is a lot of food? I could add a whole meal to that and not gain weight. I am almost 50, and I have dieted only recently due to some small weight gain. I can have ice cream daily and not gain weight. I can have bread and butter and jam daily and not gain weight. Honest question, were you overweight and lost a lot of weight? I do think that this makes a ton of difference to how much you can eat daily and gain or not gain weight. I was never overweight, even when pregnant I never gained over 20lbs, granted with my second I had a problem putting on weight and wished that I put on more weight. I ate and ate during the last trimester, but just had health issues. I think we all need to move a lot more than we do. I am not buying eat less and be sedentary lifestyle at all.

If you could barely manage to put on weight even when pregnant, you clearly don't have a normal metabolism, and you know that. You're very lucky. Most of the rest of us, not so much.

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Anonymous wrote:Threads like this make me so glad I recovered from my eating disorder. I'm 5'4", weight always around 125, counting calories obsessively and starving to get to 120, then immediately rebounding up to 130. In eating disorder recovery I started eating a normal amount of food every day (between 2000 and 3000 calories depending on how active/hungry I am on any given day-- I don't work out but I walk a lot) and now my weight comfortably sits just below 120. I can't imagine living on 1000 or 1500 calories a day anymore.

This is just to say that the obsessiveness can actually keep you heavier. Getting back in touch with your body's hunger cues can be a really good thing.

How do you maintain 120 on 2000-3000 a day?

I assume this is just my body's natural set point. I walk between 10 and 20k steps a day and eat whatever I want, not counting calories but I know its generally above 2000. Some days are more or less depending on appetite. I've been between 118 and 121 for more than 5 years now since recovering, excluding part of that time when I was pregnant and gained about 25 pounds. The pregnancy weight came off on its own between months 4-6 postpartum (I was breastfeeding so my appetite was high and I was eating a lot at the time).

Here's an example day of eating:

Breakfast: Bagel with a couple of slices of cheese and a couple of slices of tomato
Lunch: Bean and cheese quesadilla with guacamole and salsa
Snack: An apple and a kind bar
Dinner: Fairly large portion of Thai stir fry with chicken, veggies, noodles, and sauce
Dessert: smallish bowl of ice cream

I have a theory that people who restrict their calories so low end up eating more in a "rebound" effect than they would if they just ate a satisfying amount of mostly healthy food every day. I know that was true for me before I recovered from my eating disorder.

You must know that you have a very fast metabolism. Most women cannot have ice cream daily. If I ate this much a I would gain a tremendous amount of weight. If I eat even 1500 calories, even with 10000 steps and working out, I gain a lot.

How old are you? Not being able to eat 1500 calories in a day without gaining despite being very active seems like something could be off with you metabolism.

"Most women cannot have ice cream daily" is not really a logical statement. You can eat whatever you want within the boundaries of the amount of calories you can have without gaining.

Fast/slow metabolism at 5'4'' really affects your BMR by 200 calories or so max, typically more like 100 calories. The real difference that people say is "metabolism" has to do with how much people naturally move--fidgeting and being restless and postural differences can burn up to ~300 calories a day. Then if you exercise regularly, additional calories burned during exercise from that and from muscle/tissue repair.

If you are gaining eating 1500 calories a day as a woman ~120 lbs, either you are really sedentary, or you are really bad at calorie counting.