BOE Memer is proposing to study school boundary in MCPS

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly -- I think they need to at least consider this option. Some schools are massively overcrowded while other are under-utilized. Why build new schools when they could potentially solve the problem with redistricting. Isn't that a more cost effective solution?

Where is MCPS building a new school where they could solve the problem with boundary changes? Could you provide one specific example, please?

I didn't mean just a brand new school building but all the additions, etc. New building in general.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly -- I think they need to at least consider this option. Some schools are massively overcrowded while other are under-utilized. Why build new schools when they could potentially solve the problem with redistricting. Isn't that a more cost effective solution?

Where is MCPS building a new school where they could solve the problem with boundary changes? Could you provide one specific example, please?

I didn't mean just a brand new school building but all the additions, etc. New building in general.

Ok, where?

[Anonymous]

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Should MCPS redraw the school boundary to achieve racial balance?

Of course, they should! The days of segregation are a thing of the past. Let the diversity bussing commence!

"Diversity bussing" is not a thing. Stop trying to make 'fetch' happen, Gretchen.

It is; it's called desegregation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly -- I think they need to at least consider this option. Some schools are massively overcrowded while other are under-utilized. Why build new schools when they could potentially solve the problem with redistricting. Isn't that a more cost effective solution?

Where is MCPS building a new school where they could solve the problem with boundary changes? Could you provide one specific example, please?

I didn't mean just a brand new school building but all the additions, etc. New building in general.

Ok, where?

Look at the long range planning document -- many schools over the years have gotten additions including ours. (Diamond ES)

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So now MCPS, and not Planning, Housing, or ECONOMICS is responsible for segregation? Give me a break!

And, any one working for an education consulting firm here? Given that it takes MCPS a year to study an overcrowded school, a year to pick a site, 18 months to design a school, 18 months to build a school, amd we are what, the 17th largest school system in the country, what consulting firm can do a decent job of this in 5 months?

This is a waste of time and resources.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So now MCPS, and not Planning, Housing, or ECONOMICS is responsible for segregation? Give me a break!

And, any one working for an education consulting firm here? Given that it takes MCPS a year to study an overcrowded school, a year to pick a site, 18 months to design a school, 18 months to build a school, amd we are what, the 17th largest school system in the country, what consulting firm can do a decent job of this in 5 months?

This is a waste of time and resources.

MCPS can't control housing or development, but they can control rezoning to alleviate over crowding, in part, created by development without money to expand schools.

The 5months is not the rezoning, but when the report by the consultants is due.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly -- I think they need to at least consider this option. Some schools are massively overcrowded while other are under-utilized. Why build new schools when they could potentially solve the problem with redistricting. Isn't that a more cost effective solution?

Where is MCPS building a new school where they could solve the problem with boundary changes? Could you provide one specific example, please?

I didn't mean just a brand new school building but all the additions, etc. New building in general.

Ok, where?

Look at the long range planning document -- many schools over the years have gotten additions including ours. (Diamond ES)

No, a specific example, please. Are you saying that, instead of putting an addition onto Diamond ES, MCPS should have done a boundary change to move some students to -- well, where?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly -- I think they need to at least consider this option. Some schools are massively overcrowded while other are under-utilized. Why build new schools when they could potentially solve the problem with redistricting. Isn't that a more cost effective solution?

Where is MCPS building a new school where they could solve the problem with boundary changes? Could you provide one specific example, please?

I didn't mean just a brand new school building but all the additions, etc. New building in general.

Ok, where?

Look at the long range planning document -- many schools over the years have gotten additions including ours. (Diamond ES)

No, a specific example, please. Are you saying that, instead of putting an addition onto Diamond ES, MCPS should have done a boundary change to move some students to -- well, where?

I don't know -- that's why they are doing a boundary study. All I do know is there are under-utilized schools and overcrowded schools. Certainly shifts could happen such that we don't have as many capital expenditures. If the boundary study proves that wrong then so be it.

[Anonymous]

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I don't know -- that's why they are doing a boundary study. All I do know is there are under-utilized schools and overcrowded schools. Certainly shifts could happen such that we don't have as many capital expenditures. If the boundary study proves that wrong then so be it.

They're not doing a boundary study. They are discussing whether or not to hire a consultant who would assess the feasibility of doing a boundary study.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it's a good idea. Some clusters are way over crowded while others are under utilized. If they divide the county into four parts, the rezoning would be easier. HoCo rezones every few years. Yes, HoCo is smaller than MCPS, which is why I stated that MCPS should divide the county into four parts for rezoning purposes. Smaller scale, easier to rezone.

As for racial balancing.. I don't think it's about race as much as about FARMS/ESOL rate, and I think it's fine to balance out clusters for this purpose.

I live in the RM cluster and was involved in the rezoning when Rustin was opening. I know the fight will get ugly like it did for Rustin. But, this is one school district, and no one has the right to go to any one specific school. I don't think the BOE will accept busing from one side of the county to another. It's neighboring clusters that they will be looking at, not cross county clusters.

Having stated this, however, I do think they should also have some common sense when it comes to rezoning. Two of the options in the Rustin rezoning made zero sense. This is what I would be concerned about, that they throw up ridiculous options just to make the FARMs numbers look more even.

+1

It's actually a great idea. We should to utilizing every single empty seats in county when we have such over crowding. Not utilizing them for any reason will be unfair for our kids. I am in RM cluster myself and I regret moving to this cluster now because city is debating to put more kids in already over crowded cluster.

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+1

It's actually a great idea. We should to utilizing every single empty seats in county when we have such over crowding. Not utilizing them for any reason will be unfair for our kids. I am in RM cluster myself and I regret moving to this cluster now because city is debating to put more kids in already over crowded cluster.



Not even a reason like, the school is over HERE and the kid is over THERE?

Or maybe a reason like, the school has capacity now but won't in 3 years so everyone will have to switch schools?

There is not any reason that is a good reason?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it hypocritical when Consortium residents get so excited about the prospects of rezoneing the W’s to the DCC. As if they are like; yah that will show them how miserable we are and help offload the oppressive amount of problem kids our communities are burdened with!!

But they they turn around and say how great their schools are and poor kids aren’t a problem. Which way is it?

I haven’t heard any DCC parents say that on this thread. What I’ve heard — and what I totally agree with — is a certain satisfaction that parents who paid an extra $300k segregation fee when they bought their houses may have to send their children to school with brown kids after all. It’s basically schadenfreude. I live in an area that could possibly be rezoned to Woodward and believe it or not I’d rather my kid stay at Einstein.

What makes you feel glee at the misfortune of others?

Would you also feel shaudenfreude if I crash my car tomorrow and break a leg or worse? Are you one of those jealous people who secretely rejoys when coworkers lose pregnancies, do not get a promotion they deserve?

I actually now feel happy that my kid is districted for a different school than yours, making it highly unlikely that you are a parent of one od their friends and may one day enter my home.

DP.

Crashing a car
Having a miscarriage
Not getting a deserved promotion
Getting rezoned to a DCC high school

One of these things is not like the other.

Ha, yes exactly. So being part of my neighborhood and school is as awful as breaking a leg or losing a baby.... This doesn’t make me more sympathetic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope this BOE member is going to attend the upcoming Rockville City Council meeting

Much of the school overcrowding has been a direct result of overdevelopment in the County.

Too many housing units are being built, without the appropriate schools being built.

And now developers are pushing for even more development at Twinbrook and RTC. This will directly impact Richard Montgomery HS.

I hope she makes her voice heard with the City Council.

This BoE member is a student at Richard Montgomery HS.

I saw that!

I would imagine she is concerned about the overdevelopment and the fact that they want to add even MORE students to RM, which is already over crowded.

She would be allowed to share her experience at the Rockville Council meeting as a student. I believe minors can share their comments?

You think it's "overdevelopment". Other people don't. She might, she might not. She can make up her own mind and testify as she sees fit.

Yes, absolutely. And I hope she does.

Most students at RM recognize how having an overcrowded school is detrimental. I would think she is not much different.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope this BOE member is going to attend the upcoming Rockville City Council meeting

Much of the school overcrowding has been a direct result of overdevelopment in the County.

Too many housing units are being built, without the appropriate schools being built.

And now developers are pushing for even more development at Twinbrook and RTC. This will directly impact Richard Montgomery HS.

I hope she makes her voice heard with the City Council.

This BoE member is a student at Richard Montgomery HS.

I saw that!

I would imagine she is concerned about the overdevelopment and the fact that they want to add even MORE students to RM, which is already over crowded.

She would be allowed to share her experience at the Rockville Council meeting as a student. I believe minors can share their comments?

You think it's "overdevelopment". Other people don't. She might, she might not. She can make up her own mind and testify as she sees fit.

? What is the topic of this thread... it's about school overcrowding, so yes, over development makes schools even more crowded. You really need a study to show this?

[Anonymous]

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? What is the topic of this thread... it's about school overcrowding, so yes, over development makes schools even more crowded. You really need a study to show this?

The topic of this thread is a proposed study of the possibility of doing a district-wide boundary study.

Also, nobody is in favor of overdevelopment. But your "overdevelopment" might be my just plain "development", or even "underdevelopment".