For the moms who didn’t breastfeed in the hospital

[Anonymous]

Stop feeding the troll. For the poster so concerned about warm milk the helpful thing to do for the OP is to post links to the bottle and formula warmers that were easy to transport and use in the hospital. Like this: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bestproducts.com/parenting/baby/gmp524/travel-bottle-warmers/

Here, better than fine. Now go away instead of pushing breastfeeding for her first few weeks on someone who has explicitly said she does not want to.

[Anonymous]

So smart to prepare in advance, and you got great advice already.

Just want to share that you may be pleasantly surprised. I delivered at VHC in 2013 and again two months ago. Maybe it’s just because I’m a second time mom, but I found the nurses so much more flexible and supportive this time. I told them I planned to combo feed with both breastmilk and formula. Delivery nurse said “that’s great, fed is best.” I so appreciated that! Postpartum nurses did not bat an eye and brought me plenty of formula, also fed formula in nursery so I could rest. The nurses were amazing. Zero pressure from the nursing staff, nothing but support and approval.

I think some of the negative outcomes from the breast-only obsession (dehydration, jaundice, weight issues) are driving a rethink on the pressure tactics...at VHC, I really felt like the nurses cared about my rest and recovery too and were more of a fed is best mindset. The fact that they would say fed is best suggested to me they were tracking that movement.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why not breastfeed for just a few weeks?
The formula still needs to be properly warmed in the hospital.

You can give ready to feed at room temperature. No need to warm it.

Room temperature is cold, you know. It's supposed to be 98.6 - just like Mama's breast milk. Don't mess with Mother Nature.

[Anonymous]

I formula-fed in the hospital. I used the hospital’s formula (those tiny nursettes). It was not warmed.

I told the nurse when I checked in for my induction that I was formula feeding, so that they didn’t try to get the baby to breast feed after delivery. Then once we got up to the recovery floor, I think I told the nurse once as well.

The lactation consultant came by and I just told her I was formula feeding, and she left.

There is far more pressure from DCUM than I ever got from medical providers (in the hospital, or at the pediatrician).

[Anonymous]

Why would anyone give a newborn cold formula?
Is this an actual formal recommendation now?

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Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone give a newborn cold formula?
Is this an actual formal recommendation now?

You don't. You do room temperature. My kid after a few months preferred it cold.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not breastfeed for just a few weeks?
The formula still needs to be properly warmed in the hospital.

You can give ready to feed at room temperature. No need to warm it.

Room temperature is cold, you know. It's supposed to be 98.6 - just like Mama's breast milk. Don't mess with Mother Nature.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not breastfeed for just a few weeks?
The formula still needs to be properly warmed in the hospital.

You can give ready to feed at room temperature. No need to warm it.

Room temperature is cold, you know. It's supposed to be 98.6 - just like Mama's breast milk. Don't mess with Mother Nature.

luckily, human babies are warm blooded and can maintain their core temperature through homeostasis, so they can drink cold liquids. Maybe you birthed a lizard baby?

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Um, yes, babies are meant to receive warm milk. Breast milk is warm. The vast majority of parents and care givers warm formula.

That's an example of the naturalistic fallacy. it is a fact that breast milk comes out warm. It is not a fact that babies are meant to receive warm milk (meant by whom?). It is also not a fact that room-temperature formula (or room-temperature breast milk) is harmful.

If human babies were not meant to drink warm milk (nature, God, evolution, take your pick), it wouldn’t be warm.

Room-temperature formula is not harmful, but it is also not optimal. Just like a newborn CAN sleep unswaddled in a noisy, light environment...but that sure isn’t optimal.

Omg. Stop it.

I never said it was harmful; you put those words in my mouth. Ask your ped what is preferred.

Room temp is fine. There is nothing magical about warming it. Some babies have a preference after they get it one way or another. Start as you wish to continue and give room temp. So much easier!

Some of us think the baby’s preference is more important than our own ease.

Whatever works for you!

I know this is a very important issue to you for some unknown really weird reason, but it may shock you to learn that some babies prefer it cold or room temp. Cue your internal freak out!

Really? Is that why just about every feeding guide suggests warming the bottles, especially for babies who have a bottle aversion?

Here is what the Mayo Clinic says: It's fine to give your baby room temperature or even cold formula. We’ll believe them over some nut on the Internet. Stop hijacking this thread.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/infant-and-toddler-health/in-depth/infant-formula/art-20045791

No one ever said it wasn’t “fine.” Some of us want better than fine for our babies.

Let me spell this out for you since critical thinking is it your thing: there is no benefit to warming it. There is nothing better about warmer formula. Maybe it makes you feel better because you are a simpleton, but there is nothing better about warming it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why not breastfeed for just a few weeks?
The formula still needs to be properly warmed in the hospital.

You can give ready to feed at room temperature. No need to warm it.

Room temperature is cold, you know. It's supposed to be 98.6 - just like Mama's breast milk. Don't mess with Mother Nature.

luckily, human babies are warm blooded and can maintain their core temperature through homeostasis, so they can drink cold liquids. Maybe you birthed a lizard baby?

Actually newborns struggle to maintain adequate body temperature, hence the swaddle or skin-to-skin warmth (and bonding).

Plus, why do you think *every* hospital baby wears the little cotton hat? It's to help the baby get warm.

Moreover, my pediatric training was adamant about the vital importance of the 98.6 F formula temperature. Good pediatric nurses aren't interested in being lazy. They'd much rather properly warm the bottle. "Make it lukewarm to the inside of your wrist." You let a couple of drops onto your wrist to test.
We were taught that cold (room temperature) milk would needlessly make the newborn cold, until your tiny baby was able to work hard enough to bring back up her normal body temperature. Isn't that common sense? Why not just allow your baby to have warmed formula? You need to promote your child's health, no?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why not breastfeed for just a few weeks?
The formula still needs to be properly warmed in the hospital.

You can give ready to feed at room temperature. No need to warm it.

That seems hard on a little tummy/system designed to receive warm milk. What about bringing a bottle warmer with you?

Nonsense. They give room temperature formula to teeny tiny babies in the NICU. No baby’s system is designed to receive warm milk.

OP - I wouldn’t start warming it. Do room temp. It will be much easier in the long term.

Actually newborns are designed to receive body temperature milk. Whether it matters or not is a different question but without a doubt newborns are designed to receive milk at the body temperature.

[Anonymous]

I did this. Just be firm and never get into a thing. I think they push harder if you seem unsure

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Anonymous wrote:Why not breastfeed for just a few weeks?
The formula still needs to be properly warmed in the hospital.

You can give ready to feed at room temperature. No need to warm it.

That seems hard on a little tummy/system designed to receive warm milk. What about bringing a bottle warmer with you?

Nonsense. They give room temperature formula to teeny tiny babies in the NICU. No baby’s system is designed to receive warm milk.

OP - I wouldn’t start warming it. Do room temp. It will be much easier in the long term.

Actually newborns are designed to receive body temperature milk. Whether it matters or not is a different question but without a doubt newborns are designed to receive milk at the body temperature.

are newborns designed? I must have missed that lesson in my pediatric training.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone give a newborn cold formula?
Is this an actual formal recommendation now?

No. One poster is just frantically trying to justify her decision to use room temperature formula.

Formula should be warmed to body temperature. Not only does it make logical sense (make it as warm as breastmilk from a breast) but for the same reason you give warm water to someone who is dehydrated - it processes faster. We all know the feeling of being hot and drinking cold water and how you can feel it slosh around in your stomach. That’s because the body has to warm it before it can process it.

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What pediatrician says a cold bottle is a good thing for your baby? None.