For the moms who didn’t breastfeed in the hospital

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Anonymous wrote:Now here's a question for the pediatricians.
If parents request formula while in the hospital, are the nurses giving the baby cold formula or warmed formula?

And if your hospital gives newborn babies cold formula, please name the hospital.

Inova Fairfax gives nursettes. Room temp.

If you test a drop of "room temp" formula on the inside of your wrist, you'll feel that it's cold. No one puts unopened formula containers in the refrigerator!

What does your comment have to do with anything? No one is disputing that room temp is cooler than body temp. People are disputing your craziness that 1) warm bottles are scientifically better for the baby, and when anyone replies to you telling you that's just wrong, you respond with 2) it's not that warm bottles are scientifically BETTER or anything, it's just that the babies PREFER them. And when we say "a lot of babies don't care", you go back to point 1- that the warm bottles are just BETTER. It's cyclical, and makes no sense. Go away with your formula shaming.

Please stop acting like only one poster on this thread is pro-warming. I believe I'm the one you think is "crazy," but I haven't once mentioned "science," and I did not write the comment to which you are responding. I know you want to think that only one person disagrees with you, but that's clearly not the case.

And no one, literally not one person in 9 pages, has formula-shamed. I'm the "crazy" one you dislike, and I used formula for both of my babies. Wow, you're really wantting there to be a Breastfeeding Nazi angle here, I get that...too bad for you that THERE ISN'T ONE.

[Anonymous]

^^I stand corrected; I now see two formula-shaming posts on Page 9, but they aren't from me. And I don't think 2 posts by one person in 9 pages does an Anti-Formula thread make.

[Anonymous]

Is anyone saying warming formula to body temperature is bad for the baby?

But some people are saying that cold or room temperature formula is not in the baby’s best interest.

I’d say the warm-the-formula people win by the default of no one is against it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone saying warming formula to body temperature is bad for the baby?

But some people are saying that cold or room temperature formula is not in the baby’s best interest.

I’d say the warm-the-formula people win by the default of no one is against it.

DP here who genuinely doesn't understand--we used formula, but the bottles were warmed both in the hospital, and the nurses taught me about proper warming methods while we were there. My daycare center also warmed bottles. I get that it is not harmful or anything not to warm bottles, but isn't it the general "best practice" to warm them? Why wouldn't you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone saying warming formula to body temperature is bad for the baby?

But some people are saying that cold or room temperature formula is not in the baby’s best interest.

I’d say the warm-the-formula people win by the default of no one is against it.

DP here who genuinely doesn't understand--we used formula, but the bottles were warmed both in the hospital, and the nurses taught me about proper warming methods while we were there. My daycare center also warmed bottles. I get that it is not harmful or anything not to warm bottles, but isn't it the general "best practice" to warm them? Why wouldn't you?

Because if I'm out and about, I don't have a warmer with me. Because at 2am, when my baby wakes up crying, I don't want to spend 10min warming a bottle first while she screams. And no, it's not "best practice", it doesn't matter. Some babies prefer it warm so obviously it is best for those babies. Some babies don't care, so in that case, no one else should either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone saying warming formula to body temperature is bad for the baby?

But some people are saying that cold or room temperature formula is not in the baby’s best interest.

I’d say the warm-the-formula people win by the default of no one is against it.

i'm against it because it takes extra time in the middle of the night when i'm exhausted and my baby is crying for milk. but i don't care what anyone else does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone saying warming formula to body temperature is bad for the baby?

But some people are saying that cold or room temperature formula is not in the baby’s best interest.

I’d say the warm-the-formula people win by the default of no one is against it.

DP here who genuinely doesn't understand--we used formula, but the bottles were warmed both in the hospital, and the nurses taught me about proper warming methods while we were there. My daycare center also warmed bottles. I get that it is not harmful or anything not to warm bottles, but isn't it the general "best practice" to warm them? Why wouldn't you?

Because if I'm out and about, I don't have a warmer with me. Because at 2am, when my baby wakes up crying, I don't want to spend 10min warming a bottle first while she screams. And no, it's not "best practice", it doesn't matter. Some babies prefer it warm so obviously it is best for those babies. Some babies don't care, so in that case, no one else should either.

I mean, yeah, I've certainly fed on-the-go without warming on an airplane, but there is usually a way to warm a bottle, even if you are out and about. I once warmed a bottle under a faucet in a mall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone saying warming formula to body temperature is bad for the baby?

But some people are saying that cold or room temperature formula is not in the baby’s best interest.

I’d say the warm-the-formula people win by the default of no one is against it.

DP here who genuinely doesn't understand--we used formula, but the bottles were warmed both in the hospital, and the nurses taught me about proper warming methods while we were there. My daycare center also warmed bottles. I get that it is not harmful or anything not to warm bottles, but isn't it the general "best practice" to warm them? Why wouldn't you?

It's important to teach moms proper warming techniques because there is concern that many old school people- grandmothers, daycare center teachers etc- firmly believe bottles "need" to be warm for babies and will tell moms to warm them. And if mom warms them incorrectly- too hot, microwaved. etc- it can burn the baby's mouth and esophagus. So it's definitely important to teach the right way to warm bottles in case mom ends up warming them, but they don't teach it because it's what you SHOULD do, they teach it because if you decide to do it but then you do it wrong, it can be really bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone saying warming formula to body temperature is bad for the baby?

But some people are saying that cold or room temperature formula is not in the baby’s best interest.

I’d say the warm-the-formula people win by the default of no one is against it.

DP here who genuinely doesn't understand--we used formula, but the bottles were warmed both in the hospital, and the nurses taught me about proper warming methods while we were there. My daycare center also warmed bottles. I get that it is not harmful or anything not to warm bottles, but isn't it the general "best practice" to warm them? Why wouldn't you?

It's important to teach moms proper warming techniques because there is concern that many old school people- grandmothers, daycare center teachers etc- firmly believe bottles "need" to be warm for babies and will tell moms to warm them. And if mom warms them incorrectly- too hot, microwaved. etc- it can burn the baby's mouth and esophagus. So it's definitely important to teach the right way to warm bottles in case mom ends up warming them, but they don't teach it because it's what you SHOULD do, they teach it because if you decide to do it but then you do it wrong, it can be really bad.

Right, and no one is disputing that. At all. Of course you should learn the proper way to do anything baby-related...swaddling, burping, changing diapers, etc. No one here said otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone saying warming formula to body temperature is bad for the baby?

But some people are saying that cold or room temperature formula is not in the baby’s best interest.

I’d say the warm-the-formula people win by the default of no one is against it.

DP here who genuinely doesn't understand--we used formula, but the bottles were warmed both in the hospital, and the nurses taught me about proper warming methods while we were there. My daycare center also warmed bottles. I get that it is not harmful or anything not to warm bottles, but isn't it the general "best practice" to warm them? Why wouldn't you?

Because if I'm out and about, I don't have a warmer with me. Because at 2am, when my baby wakes up crying, I don't want to spend 10min warming a bottle first while she screams. And no, it's not "best practice", it doesn't matter. Some babies prefer it warm so obviously it is best for those babies. Some babies don't care, so in that case, no one else should either.

I mean, yeah, I've certainly fed on-the-go without warming on an airplane, but there is usually a way to warm a bottle, even if you are out and about. I once warmed a bottle under a faucet in a mall.

And I'm sure I would have done that if my baby had really seemed to prefer warm bottles, but she doesn't act like she notices one way or another, so why would I lug her into a mall bathroom, sit her on the floor, warm the bottle under the sink, wash my hands, wash HER hands since now she's touched the bathroom floor, and then go sit somewhere to feed her? I just never saw the point. But again- if your kid prefers it that way then obviously the trouble becomes worth it.

[Anonymous]

We have the Baby Breeza Formula Maker. The bottles are made to perfect “body temperature “ in seven seconds. DD will take a room temperature bottle if we are out but will never drink as much.

Makes sense that close to body temperature is more natural. DD has never had reflux or colic and was STTN without sleep training at three months. I have no clue if it is connected or not but this next baby is getting warm formula!

Don’t care what anyone else does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone saying warming formula to body temperature is bad for the baby?

But some people are saying that cold or room temperature formula is not in the baby’s best interest.

I’d say the warm-the-formula people win by the default of no one is against it.

DP here who genuinely doesn't understand--we used formula, but the bottles were warmed both in the hospital, and the nurses taught me about proper warming methods while we were there. My daycare center also warmed bottles. I get that it is not harmful or anything not to warm bottles, but isn't it the general "best practice" to warm them? Why wouldn't you?

Because if I'm out and about, I don't have a warmer with me. Because at 2am, when my baby wakes up crying, I don't want to spend 10min warming a bottle first while she screams. And no, it's not "best practice", it doesn't matter. Some babies prefer it warm so obviously it is best for those babies. Some babies don't care, so in that case, no one else should either.

You do cold bottles straight out of the refrigerator? Did you start that as soon as you got home from the hospital?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone saying warming formula to body temperature is bad for the baby?

But some people are saying that cold or room temperature formula is not in the baby’s best interest.

I’d say the warm-the-formula people win by the default of no one is against it.

DP here who genuinely doesn't understand--we used formula, but the bottles were warmed both in the hospital, and the nurses taught me about proper warming methods while we were there. My daycare center also warmed bottles. I get that it is not harmful or anything not to warm bottles, but isn't it the general "best practice" to warm them? Why wouldn't you?

It's important to teach moms proper warming techniques because there is concern that many old school people- grandmothers, daycare center teachers etc- firmly believe bottles "need" to be warm for babies and will tell moms to warm them. And if mom warms them incorrectly- too hot, microwaved. etc- it can burn the baby's mouth and esophagus. So it's definitely important to teach the right way to warm bottles in case mom ends up warming them, but they don't teach it because it's what you SHOULD do, they teach it because if you decide to do it but then you do it wrong, it can be really bad.

Right, and no one is disputing that. At all. Of course you should learn the proper way to do anything baby-related...swaddling, burping, changing diapers, etc. No one here said otherwise.

Right - I thought you were asking why the hospital would teach you how to do it if it wasn't the preferred way to feed a baby- I was just saying they were teaching you the proper way to do it not because it's the doctor-preferred way to feed them, but because if you're going to do it you need to know how to do it right. That's all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone saying warming formula to body temperature is bad for the baby?

But some people are saying that cold or room temperature formula is not in the baby’s best interest.

I’d say the warm-the-formula people win by the default of no one is against it.

DP here who genuinely doesn't understand--we used formula, but the bottles were warmed both in the hospital, and the nurses taught me about proper warming methods while we were there. My daycare center also warmed bottles. I get that it is not harmful or anything not to warm bottles, but isn't it the general "best practice" to warm them? Why wouldn't you?

Because if I'm out and about, I don't have a warmer with me. Because at 2am, when my baby wakes up crying, I don't want to spend 10min warming a bottle first while she screams. And no, it's not "best practice", it doesn't matter. Some babies prefer it warm so obviously it is best for those babies. Some babies don't care, so in that case, no one else should either.

You do cold bottles straight out of the refrigerator? Did you start that as soon as you got home from the hospital?

No, the ready to feed ones were room temp on my counter. If I use water from the sink, I do lukewarm water typically. I don't save partially finished bottles because my ped told me not to, so I never refrigerate them- not necessary. I do have a friend who makes a pitcher of formula in the mornings with a formula mixer thing- and she does keep that in the fridge all day and pour from it, I am not sure if she warms it first I never asked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone saying warming formula to body temperature is bad for the baby?

But some people are saying that cold or room temperature formula is not in the baby’s best interest.

I’d say the warm-the-formula people win by the default of no one is against it.

DP here who genuinely doesn't understand--we used formula, but the bottles were warmed both in the hospital, and the nurses taught me about proper warming methods while we were there. My daycare center also warmed bottles. I get that it is not harmful or anything not to warm bottles, but isn't it the general "best practice" to warm them? Why wouldn't you?

It's important to teach moms proper warming techniques because there is concern that many old school people- grandmothers, daycare center teachers etc- firmly believe bottles "need" to be warm for babies and will tell moms to warm them. And if mom warms them incorrectly- too hot, microwaved. etc- it can burn the baby's mouth and esophagus. So it's definitely important to teach the right way to warm bottles in case mom ends up warming them, but they don't teach it because it's what you SHOULD do, they teach it because if you decide to do it but then you do it wrong, it can be really bad.

Right, and no one is disputing that. At all. Of course you should learn the proper way to do anything baby-related...swaddling, burping, changing diapers, etc. No one here said otherwise.

Right - I thought you were asking why the hospital would teach you how to do it if it wasn't the preferred way to feed a baby- I was just saying they were teaching you the proper way to do it not because it's the doctor-preferred way to feed them, but because if you're going to do it you need to know how to do it right. That's all.

So then...why was the first one they handed me to give to her warm? And the second? I/DH prepared the third and subsequent ones.