I would love to see this, even if it’s not complete |
At one of the UVA board meetings, the presenter commented that more good students are being lost than previously to out of state public schools that are pushing merit and honors colleges. There is a lot of competition for good students. |
My DC applied early action, which is pretty much required these days to show interest but don't be surprised to be deferred. I do think interest matters for OOS kids. My DC didn't visit before applying but very much customized the Why Michigan question (or whatever it was) on the supplement - researched and made references to the specific department DC was interested in majoring in. Scores and GPA matter - DC was high on both, but not so high on scores that it looked like UM might be a safety. They definitely seem to have increased deferrals of very high score OOS kids until after ED decisions are known. But yes, bottom line the admit rate for OOS kids is between 15-19% so not easy. I also noticed that for DCs school nearly all the kids admitted to UM actually attended (based on what was reported in the school paper in addition to Bethesda Magazine) so their yield is high. |
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Yes, in my experience a high-stats student was deferred EA yet his neighbor with lower stats was admitted EA. The neighbor had done a couple of trips to A2 for tours and was on the radar.
Lots of OOS tuition dollars at stake so U of M naturally wants to protect that yield. |
FCPS did not make the info available to the magazine because the numbers are clearly inaccurate and not worth the paper they're written on. A poster on the Arlington thread compared the numbers reported by the magazine to what's on SCHEV (the official numbers reported directed by VA colleges to the state gov't) and there are HUGE discrepencies. http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/90/753301.page |
The Arlington numbers are demonstrably wrong. See http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/90/753301.page |
I'll bet you enjoy doing the interviewing and thinking you're superior. You realize that the interview means nothing to the admissions committee and that it's just a big ego feed, right? |
Huge? I don't think so. |
The blame there lies squarely with APS. The magazine didn’t fabricate the numbers. |
Weirdo. Both APS and the magazine make clear that the numbers might not be accurate, so it's not APS's fault. The point is simply that the numbers aren't accurate by a long shot, and there's no reason to think Bethesda's are either. |
You totally missed my point. The interview means nothing. I’m saying that it’s hard to stand out and when it is between two kids with comparable applications, you never know what one little thing is going to push them over into the yes pile. It’s a shame, cause if they were applying from somewhere with less local competition they’d probably get in. |
And that's why most schools also offer the number of students who were in the top 10% of their high school class. For UVA it is 94.6% - 96%. For UNC it is only 78%. You are wrong about reporting class rank. Every high school sends a class profile to college institutions with a breakdown of the rising senior class as to GPA. The first thing any college admissions reviewer does is check to see where the applicant falls across that year's class profile. So it the top student is a 4.03, then a 4.00 weighted might be a relatively strong student whereas a 4.4 student in a class with a top of 4.6 might not be as strong. This is why every college institution tells you the percentage of students that were in the top ten percent of their high school class. And an interesting twist is that the students at UVA who are not in the top ten percent of their high school class are the TJ students, who, because they are already cream of the crop, do just fine at UVA. |
| In-state North Carolina students are on an artificially high GPA scale of 10 points. An average OOS GPA of 3.55 is usually the figure given as a comparable since in-state students have artificially high GPAs. https://myfox8.com/2015/01/09/nc-adopts-new-grading-scale-for-high-school-students/. That explains why only 78% of the total student body hails from top ten percent of their classes whereas it is much higher for UVA and other schools. |
The magazine can easily confirm what they publish by contacting parents with kids in APS and looking at Naviance. A quick look at Naviance shows these numbers to be wrong. It's the journalist responsibility to confirm their sources. |
It was just striking that almost all of the Blair kids got into Oberlin and none got into Wesleyan. I know Wesleyan is more selective and prestigious but was still surprised at how many kids were accepted to Oberlin. |