Swim Team Coach/Parent Etiquette

[Anonymous]

It’s useful to review the turns in the beginning of season for 15 min some sessions, but the description fits “learn to do the turns, starts etc.” workout for an 8& under minis group. Certainly a 10 yo won’t get anywhere on such routine. I’ve been in such situation with my swimmer as well (luckily there were A times on record, so we are able to switch mid season without wasting too much time). Can totally understand your frustration with driving for nothing - good luck with the meet and the meeting.

[Anonymous]

Based on everything you've said here, OP, I would be looking for a new swim club entirely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Based on everything you've said here, OP, I would be looking for a new swim club entirely.

OP here, definitely felt that was last night!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s useful to review the turns in the beginning of season for 15 min some sessions, but the description fits “learn to do the turns, starts etc.” workout for an 8& under minis group. Certainly a 10 yo won’t get anywhere on such routine. I’ve been in such situation with my swimmer as well (luckily there were A times on record, so we are able to switch mid season without wasting too much time). Can totally understand your frustration with driving for nothing - good luck with the meet and the meeting.

Thank you for your advice. How did you go about making the switch?

[Anonymous]

You need first to contact other clubs in proximity, ask about availability for her age group. When she gets times, take her to tryouts where its available and observe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s useful to review the turns in the beginning of season for 15 min some sessions, but the description fits “learn to do the turns, starts etc.” workout for an 8& under minis group. Certainly a 10 yo won’t get anywhere on such routine. I’ve been in such situation with my swimmer as well (luckily there were A times on record, so we are able to switch mid season without wasting too much time). Can totally understand your frustration with driving for nothing - good luck with the meet and the meeting.

Thank you for your advice. How did you go about making the switch?

What area are you in? Based on 9-year old times, was your child BB/B/A? Some clubs have minimums; some use it to sort practices. There are a lot of clubs in the area, and I agree that based on everything, it is time to move on.

[Anonymous]

If your daughter easily swam 4 times a week 2000 yards at 9, her load at 10 should be 5 times *2500 to begin season, and increase volume to 3500 for some workouts closer to 11

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s useful to review the turns in the beginning of season for 15 min some sessions, but the description fits “learn to do the turns, starts etc.” workout for an 8& under minis group. Certainly a 10 yo won’t get anywhere on such routine. I’ve been in such situation with my swimmer as well (luckily there were A times on record, so we are able to switch mid season without wasting too much time). Can totally understand your frustration with driving for nothing - good luck with the meet and the meeting.

Thank you for your advice. How did you go about making the switch?

What area are you in? Based on 9-year old times, was your child BB/B/A? Some clubs have minimums; some use it to sort practices. There are a lot of clubs in the area, and I agree that based on everything, it is time to move on.

BB times in 10 and under, swimming as 8-9 year old. First meet is in October, no times on record this year as of yet. Based on what I’ve seen her do in practices she will likely have between AA and AAA times as 9-10 year old still swimming 10 and under. I can’t find any accurate reasoning for the kids they moved up. Some didn’t place or qualify for anything all last season, had B times as 10-11 year olds and they moved up to 5 days training. I am not in your area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your daughter easily swam 4 times a week 2000 yards at 9, her load at 10 should be 5 times *2500 to begin season, and increase volume to 3500 for some workouts closer to 11

Agreed. That is exactly what I thought.

[Anonymous]

It’s nearly impossible to step up from BB straight to AA-AAA but she could be well an A now, after summer. You need to have her first meet results to discuss with current team. But if she already had all BB as a 9 yo (which is strong) then you don’t need to wait for new meet to start looking for back-up options. You can already find a transfer option and have it in your sleeve when you go to that meeting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s nearly impossible to step up from BB straight to AA-AAA but she could be well an A now, after summer. You need to have her first meet results to discuss with current team. But if she already had all BB as a 9 yo (which is strong) then you don’t need to wait for new meet to start looking for back-up options. You can already find a transfer option and have it in your sleeve when you go to that meeting

There are around only 3 seconds in her strong races between her times last December during short course season and AA times. It isn’t hard at this age to knock off 3 seconds. I’ve timed her during their fun relays during practice and she is there.

[Anonymous]

She was BB at 9 and they didn’t move her up?? Sounds like totally unprofessional trainers. She can make zones before 11, but if she keeps wasting time swimming 900 yards with 8 yo group, it won’t happen. You need to run, the sooner the better

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s nearly impossible to step up from BB straight to AA-AAA but she could be well an A now, after summer. You need to have her first meet results to discuss with current team. But if she already had all BB as a 9 yo (which is strong) then you don’t need to wait for new meet to start looking for back-up options. You can already find a transfer option and have it in your sleeve when you go to that meeting

There are around only 3 seconds in her strong races between her times last December during short course season and AA times. It isn’t hard at this age to knock off 3 seconds. I’ve timed her during their fun relays during practice and she is there.

m

There are no such events in USA swimming 10&under girls times where a difference between BB and AA would be 3 sec. it’s about 5 sec for all 50s ( 7 sec for breast); about 15-20 sec for 100s
You are either from another country or you are looking at single age standards for 9yo, which are not quite the same as 9-10 age group standards

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s nearly impossible to step up from BB straight to AA-AAA but she could be well an A now, after summer. You need to have her first meet results to discuss with current team. But if she already had all BB as a 9 yo (which is strong) then you don’t need to wait for new meet to start looking for back-up options. You can already find a transfer option and have it in your sleeve when you go to that meeting

There are around only 3 seconds in her strong races between her times last December during short course season and AA times. It isn’t hard at this age to knock off 3 seconds. I’ve timed her during their fun relays during practice and she is there.

m

There are no such events in USA swimming 10&under girls times where a difference between BB and AA would be 3 sec. it’s about 5 sec for all 50s ( 7 sec for breast); about 15-20 sec for 100s
You are either from another country or you are looking at single age standards for 9yo, which are not quite the same as 9-10 age group standards

I am looking at 2017-2020 Standards 10 & Under girls for SCM. For example 50 free, BB min is 38.89. DD’s time is 36.17. A min is 34.69. AA min is 33.29. From DD’s time to AA min is around 3 seconds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s nearly impossible to step up from BB straight to AA-AAA but she could be well an A now, after summer. You need to have her first meet results to discuss with current team. But if she already had all BB as a 9 yo (which is strong) then you don’t need to wait for new meet to start looking for back-up options. You can already find a transfer option and have it in your sleeve when you go to that meeting

There are around only 3 seconds in her strong races between her times last December during short course season and AA times. It isn’t hard at this age to knock off 3 seconds. I’ve timed her during their fun relays during practice and she is there.

m

There are no such events in USA swimming 10&under girls times where a difference between BB and AA would be 3 sec. it’s about 5 sec for all 50s ( 7 sec for breast); about 15-20 sec for 100s
You are either from another country or you are looking at single age standards for 9yo, which are not quite the same as 9-10 age group standards

I am looking at 2017-2020 Standards 10 & Under girls for SCM. For example 50 free, BB min is 38.89. DD’s time is 36.17. A min is 34.69. AA min is 33.29. From DD’s time to AA min is around 3 seconds.

OK, but what are her 100 and 200 free times? Maybe she's not being moved up because she has no endurance. There are lots of kids who can swim a fast 50 in summer swim, but anything beyond a 50 and they hit a major wall.