Grand Jury reports 300 accused priests, 1,000+ child victims, 70-year coverup by the Catholic Church

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Anonymous wrote:Another case of men thinking with the little head instead of the big head.

It's way more deviant than that.

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I am shocked by the posters here making excuses for this ring of pedophiles. I guess I shouldn’t be, since the Church obvioudly depends on it to keep this criminal entetprise going. Truly revolting.

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Anonymous wrote:I am shocked by the posters here making excuses for this ring of pedophiles. I guess I shouldn’t be, since the Church obvioudly depends on it to keep this criminal entetprise going. Truly revolting.

Which post is in support of the ring of pedophiles? I missed that.

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The Catholic church has a problem with sex, that's clear. If the Church wants to be around in a few generations, they need to end their bizarre emphasis on celibacy. It's not healthy. Have married clergy with a normal, healthy, realistic attitude towards sexuality instead of the deviants they have been attracting.

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Anonymous wrote:I am shocked by the posters here making excuses for this ring of pedophiles. I guess I shouldn’t be, since the Church obvioudly depends on it to keep this criminal entetprise going. Truly revolting.

Which post is in support of the ring of pedophiles? I missed that.

There isn't one. The thread turned a little when those who are the type who support the Muslim ban showed up and one person called them on it.

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Can this Church just be put out of existence already? Creepy out of date weirdos fixated on some bearded dude named Jesus who claimed special knowledge.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there now clear cut rules for priest/altar boy or altar girl interactions? I know that abuse did not solely happen in the back church rooms, but anyone out there have children who currently serve in these positions? What are the rules for being alone with a priest? Are there clear rules for priests not to be alone with minors?

Yes - priests now are much more aware of this and are very cautious not to put themselves in any compromising situations. One of DH’s best friends is a priest. We’ve known him for almost 30 years. He’s a good man and I trust him with my children as much as I trust anyone. But he will not ever put himself in a position to be alone with them - or any other child (or woman actually) It’s a sad result of what other priests have done to taint his occupation.

I just makes me sad for the good men in the vocation.

Makes me more sad for the children who were violated. Several committed suicide when they grew up.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:I never cease to be amazed that people still attend church and send their kids to parochial school after years and years of these horrors and the attendant lack of remorse of the perpetrators and their enablers being continuously publicized all over the planet. It's like inviting the violent pedophile to your home, locking them up in a room with your kids, throwing away the key and getting yourself a pair of earplugs.

I agree wholeheartedly with the first sentence. For me, it's not so much the fear that my own child would be abused, but rather the generations of trauma my family suffered at the hands of representatives of the Church. How could I make that institution responsible for the moral and spiritual formation of my child?

[Anonymous]

I did a quick back of the envelope calculation after looking up the number of catholic parishes in PA: 982 parishes, of which 850 have a priest.
Assuming a priest works for 35 years after getting his divinity degree, that's 1700 priests going through those parishes in 70 years, but more likely fewer accounting for population growth and associated increase in parishes during the baby boom years, at least until the 2002 abuse reports.

That's an 18% proportion of known abusers.


The report said that in spite of the 1000+ cases that were identified, there are likely thousands that went unreported. So what's the real proportion? 40%? 60%?

You would think that the institution would select for its prominent positions people who are unlikely to be tainted by controversy if earlier misdeeds came to light. If the rate is 60%, there should be at least 40% of the priesthood that is blameless and can be promoted according to this criterion. Or is there? Some of these abusers become bishops. Were there so few candidates to select from?

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Anonymous wrote:I did a quick back of the envelope calculation after looking up the number of catholic parishes in PA: 982 parishes, of which 850 have a priest.
Assuming a priest works for 35 years after getting his divinity degree, that's 1700 priests going through those parishes in 70 years, but more likely fewer accounting for population growth and associated increase in parishes during the baby boom years, at least until the 2002 abuse reports.

That's an 18% proportion of known abusers.


The report said that in spite of the 1000+ cases that were identified, there are likely thousands that went unreported. So what's the real proportion? 40%? 60%?

You would think that the institution would select for its prominent positions people who are unlikely to be tainted by controversy if earlier misdeeds came to light. If the rate is 60%, there should be at least 40% of the priesthood that is blameless and can be promoted according to this criterion. Or is there? Some of these abusers become bishops. Were there so few candidates to select from?

I guess it is the same way that other criminals aren't found out until they are President, or in Congress, or the head of a hedge fund, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, this isn't a religion. It's a pedophilic cult that everyone excuses. I never understood why it isn't a full on criminal process- why is the church still in charge?

Agree. The Catholic Church has functioned as a pedophile ring.

That does not mean that you, as a parishioner, condone it. Or that your personal faith is bad. But the institution systematized child molestation and protecting child molestors, worldwide. No one can dispute that

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Anonymous wrote:I did a quick back of the envelope calculation after looking up the number of catholic parishes in PA: 982 parishes, of which 850 have a priest.
Assuming a priest works for 35 years after getting his divinity degree, that's 1700 priests going through those parishes in 70 years, but more likely fewer accounting for population growth and associated increase in parishes during the baby boom years, at least until the 2002 abuse reports.

That's an 18% proportion of known abusers.


The report said that in spite of the 1000+ cases that were identified, there are likely thousands that went unreported. So what's the real proportion? 40%? 60%?

You would think that the institution would select for its prominent positions people who are unlikely to be tainted by controversy if earlier misdeeds came to light. If the rate is 60%, there should be at least 40% of the priesthood that is blameless and can be promoted according to this criterion. Or is there? Some of these abusers become bishops. Were there so few candidates to select from?

I guess it is the same way that other criminals aren't found out until they are President, or in Congress, or the head of a hedge fund, etc.

The stuff about Cardinal McCarrick was known way back when and he still rose incredibly high.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another case of men thinking with the little head instead of the big head.

Get off your high horse. There are a lot of case of women(school teachers) raping kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, this isn't a religion. It's a pedophilic cult that everyone excuses. I never understood why it isn't a full on criminal process- why is the church still in charge?

Agree. The Catholic Church has functioned as a pedophile ring.

That does not mean that you, as a parishioner, condone it. Or that your personal faith is bad. But the institution systematized child molestation and protecting child molestors, worldwide. No one can dispute that

No one does.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did a quick back of the envelope calculation after looking up the number of catholic parishes in PA: 982 parishes, of which 850 have a priest.
Assuming a priest works for 35 years after getting his divinity degree, that's 1700 priests going through those parishes in 70 years, but more likely fewer accounting for population growth and associated increase in parishes during the baby boom years, at least until the 2002 abuse reports.

That's an 18% proportion of known abusers.


The report said that in spite of the 1000+ cases that were identified, there are likely thousands that went unreported. So what's the real proportion? 40%? 60%?

You would think that the institution would select for its prominent positions people who are unlikely to be tainted by controversy if earlier misdeeds came to light. If the rate is 60%, there should be at least 40% of the priesthood that is blameless and can be promoted according to this criterion. Or is there? Some of these abusers become bishops. Were there so few candidates to select from?

I guess it is the same way that other criminals aren't found out until they are President, or in Congress, or the head of a hedge fund, etc.

The stuff about Cardinal McCarrick was known way back when and he still rose incredibly high.

I know. It is horrible. Same with all the other criminals who have risen to power (like Trump). Why do humans fall for con artists over and over and over again?