OOB Placement at Janney?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What the heck ever happened with kids from low performing schools getting preference on the waitlists? Curious if the people posting on here claiming to be at the top of the list are applying from low performing schools?

I went through the Janney directory this year and almost none of the OOB kids this year are from poorer parts of DC - if we are going to have a jam packed school it ought to be to further some broader goals instead of enabling upper middle class parents to save on their mortgages.

Most of the OOB kids are from families who started IB and moved OOB and the principal allowed them to stay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:#4 for 1st grade OOB. Crossing my fingers!

4 our of 5 K classes this year had 26 students.
There's no way they'll admit OOB for first grade unless a ton of kids leave over the summer.
It's the biggest grade the school has ever had.

[Anonymous]

If Janney is forced to accept the ten percent set aside for at risk, there is no place in the school for them. One thought is to rent space from St Ann’s, cut a hole in the fence and put the quota kids there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:#4 for 1st grade OOB. Crossing my fingers!

4 our of 5 K classes this year had 26 students.
There's no way they'll admit OOB for first grade unless a ton of kids leave over the summer.
It's the biggest grade the school has ever had.

Nope not even close and I would know because my oldest was in the largest class Janney has had in the last decade which just graduated and peaked at 137 IIRC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: I don't think that many families from the poorer parts of DC have the means (i.e. time, energy, money, band-width) to trek up to AU Park twice daily.
Being able to commute for a better school is a luxury that many in DC sadly don't have.
Janney tends to get OOB families who either have super involved parents or some cases, nannies who make the trip twice a day. It's a major hike for most of the city.

These families self select by ranking Janney and/or taking spots when they're given.

You might be right but you could just as easily be wrong - lots of low income families do in fact schlep all over town now, often for lower performing charters some of which are equally out of the way.

And because of it's proximity to Metro and a slew of bus routes Janney is relatively easy to get to. So until someone tells me otherwise I'm going to assume DCPS has not factored lower performing schools into the lottery placement yet.

They definitely haven't made any created any "at risk" set asides at Janney yet.

And I do think that Janney's location in far-flung NW (even though it's on the Metro) precludes a TON of at-risk families from even applying. In fact, a ton of at-risk families aren't applying to any out of boundary schools. Their kids attend their local elementary if they'e lucky. I work as a home-health RN and am in and out of houses across NE and SE daily. Parents there love their kids as much as any but there is a huge segment of society in DC that is incapable of commuting an hour (round trip) twice a day to get their kids to a better school. That is so out of the realm of their reality, it would be like suggesting they school their kids in Paris. When your life consists of any of the following--(obviously not all shared by the same family): shift work, multiple jobs, homelessness, drug use, health problems, parenting multiple kids, poverty--you're not Metroing up and back to AU Park twice a day for better reading instruction for your second grader. Even the "poor" who use attend the better charters or occasionally the JKLM schools are the most functional of the poor.

Yet your anecdote is trumped by the fact that lots of working class families trek all over the city every single day to get their kids into better schools. Of course some don't but that doesn't prove your point that none do. And Janney really isn't that hard to get to or that far from some disadvantaged neighborhoods - both the 96 and the 2 H buses that serve Tenleytown get you to some less advantaged neighborhoods in about 20 minutes and some really disadvantaged neighborhoods in 30-40. Your post frankly is really condescending towards poor people and suggests that few will hustle to give their kids better chances which is certainly not my experience in DCPS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:#4 for 1st grade OOB. Crossing my fingers!

4 our of 5 K classes this year had 26 students.
There's no way they'll admit OOB for first grade unless a ton of kids leave over the summer.
It's the biggest grade the school has ever had.

Nope not even close and I would know because my oldest was in the largest class Janney has had in the last decade which just graduated and peaked at 137 IIRC.

No, you’re wrong. The class that just graduated had 113 kids and is the largest class they’ve ever had graduate . I had a kid in this class. The current K class has 129.
Call the schoo office, count the yearbook photos or look in the directory for verification.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:#4 for 1st grade OOB. Crossing my fingers!

4 our of 5 K classes this year had 26 students.
There's no way they'll admit OOB for first grade unless a ton of kids leave over the summer.
It's the biggest grade the school has ever had.

Nope not even close and I would know because my oldest was in the largest class Janney has had in the last decade which just graduated and peaked at 137 IIRC.

No, you’re wrong. The class that just graduated had 113 kids and is the largest class they’ve ever had graduate . I had a kid in this class. The current K class has 129.
Call the schoo office, count the yearbook photos or look in the directory for verification.

I've got kids in both classes you are referring to - the graduating class peaked at 137 students and IIRC had 130 students in Kindergarten. Not sure what I am wrong about - someone stated that this years K class is the largest ever at Janney and that is not true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Janney is forced to accept the ten percent set aside for at risk, there is no place in the school for them. One thought is to rent space from St Ann’s, cut a hole in the fence and put the quota kids there.

Gross. Another idea is to eliminate PK4. Or shrink the boundaries. Or stop taking non at-risk kids from OOB.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Janney is forced to accept the ten percent set aside for at risk, there is no place in the school for them. One thought is to rent space from St Ann’s, cut a hole in the fence and put the quota kids there.

Gross. Another idea is to eliminate PK4. Or shrink the boundaries. Or stop taking non at-risk kids from OOB.

Shrinking the boundaries doesn't solve anything as the bordering schools are also at capacity.

However Janney does have a decent number of OOB students now so simply booting the OOB kids who've moved from the school boundaries and giving those slots to kids from low performing schools ought to have minimal impact on the schools enrollment.

But all of this is a silly discussion - the real issue in Ward 3 is the enrollment numbers and capacity at Deal and Wilson.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:#4 for 1st grade OOB. Crossing my fingers!

4 our of 5 K classes this year had 26 students.
There's no way they'll admit OOB for first grade unless a ton of kids leave over the summer.
It's the biggest grade the school has ever had.

Nope not even close and I would know because my oldest was in the largest class Janney has had in the last decade which just graduated and peaked at 137 IIRC.

No, you’re wrong. The class that just graduated had 113 kids and is the largest class they’ve ever had graduate . I had a kid in this class. The current K class has 129.
Call the schoo office, count the yearbook photos or look in the directory for verification.

I've got kids in both classes you are referring to - the graduating class peaked at 137 students and IIRC had 130 students in Kindergarten. Not sure what I am wrong about - someone stated that this years K class is the largest ever at Janney and that is not true.

Here are the numbers for the most recent graduating class based on the directory:

K 123
1 135
2 136
3 123
4 119
5 113

This past years kindergarten class had 126 (again based on the directory)

So the classes are very similar in size and the directory numbers are usually a bit low because the directory comes out in November I think and usually the school adds a few kids as the year goes on.

I just tried to look this up and could not find it so someone more DCPS savvy than I can post the link but my recollection is that there were far more in-bound kids waitlisted for pre-K 6 years ago than 2 years ago - my re-collection is about 60 kids were on the pre-K WL in 2012 and just 20 in 2017. We were shocked at the size of this years K class based on that but there were a lot of K kids whose addresses weren't listed in the directory so it would not surprise me to learn DCPS made a call to increase the OOB kids in this years K class - really curious if the 2 Georgetown kids will be back next year and if there are others that were snuck in because of Hyde's renovation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:#4 for 1st grade OOB. Crossing my fingers!

4 our of 5 K classes this year had 26 students.
There's no way they'll admit OOB for first grade unless a ton of kids leave over the summer.
It's the biggest grade the school has ever had.

Nope not even close and I would know because my oldest was in the largest class Janney has had in the last decade which just graduated and peaked at 137 IIRC.

No, you’re wrong. The class that just graduated had 113 kids and is the largest class they’ve ever had graduate . I had a kid in this class. The current K class has 129.
Call the schoo office, count the yearbook photos or look in the directory for verification.

I've got kids in both classes you are referring to - the graduating class peaked at 137 students and IIRC had 130 students in Kindergarten. Not sure what I am wrong about - someone stated that this years K class is the largest ever at Janney and that is not true.

Here are the numbers for the most recent graduating class based on the directory:

K 123
1 135
2 136
3 123
4 119
5 113

This past years kindergarten class had 126 (again based on the directory)

So the classes are very similar in size and the directory numbers are usually a bit low because the directory comes out in November I think and usually the school adds a few kids as the year goes on.

I just tried to look this up and could not find it so someone more DCPS savvy than I can post the link but my recollection is that there were far more in-bound kids waitlisted for pre-K 6 years ago than 2 years ago - my re-collection is about 60 kids were on the pre-K WL in 2012 and just 20 in 2017. We were shocked at the size of this years K class based on that but there were a lot of K kids whose addresses weren't listed in the directory so it would not surprise me to learn DCPS made a call to increase the OOB kids in this years K class - really curious if the 2 Georgetown kids will be back next year and if there are others that were snuck in because of Hyde's renovation.

Did anyone have the balls to report the GT kids? Everyone talks a good game about over crowding ...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Did anyone have the balls to report the GT kids? Everyone talks a good game about over crowding ...

Was anyone suggesting the kids from Georgetown were boundary cheaters? I think they lotteried in - so there is nothing to "report".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Did anyone have the balls to report the GT kids? Everyone talks a good game about over crowding ...

Was anyone suggesting the kids from Georgetown were boundary cheaters? I think they lotteried in - so there is nothing to "report".

I thought the comment that they snuck in was a reference to not getting in through the lottery
"....really curious if the 2 Georgetown kids will be back next year and if there are others that were snuck in because of Hyde's renovation."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just got off the waitlist for 2nd OOB.

Welcome - it is a nice cohort of kids and families.

That's great to hear -- we're closing next week on a house in-bounds and have a rising 2nd grader who we'll enroll shortly after that. Looking forward to meeting all of you and pretending we never read this site.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just got off the waitlist for 2nd OOB.

Welcome - it is a nice cohort of kids and families.

That's great to hear -- we're closing next week on a house in-bounds and have a rising 2nd grader who we'll enroll shortly after that. Looking forward to meeting all of you and pretending we never read this site.

Hi! I have a rising 2nd and rising 4th. I'm pretty sure most of the obnoxious posters here aren't really Janney families. Most people are very nice.

Welcome to the neighborhood!