Navid Sepehri ( Walt Whitman High School Teen 17 )

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Have Navid's friends not been forthcoming?

The friends should have an idea where he got the alcohol. They should be able to explain how he ended up alone.

The Bethesda Magazine article stated he had two Pennsylvania fake IDs on him. The bottle he had was acquired from outside Montgomery County. It seems like a fairly typical teenage set of circumstances that ended as a parent's worst nightmare. I'm sure everyone he was with wishes they would have made one different decision than what they made that night, but unfortunately nothing will bring him back. I wish his family peace.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have Navid's friends not been forthcoming?

The friends should have an idea where he got the alcohol. They should be able to explain how he ended up alone.

I would expect that they should be able to answer most if not all of the questions posed. If they aren't telling that is despicable. Just like those kids at the party in the Traviliah crash who wouldn't talk. Shameful.

I read that the other boys' took an Uber home, but Navid declined and said he would walk. Who is to blame?

Navid. That's what his parents have failed to accept yet. It's so heartbreaking to read these posts. The story as a whole is very heartbreaking, but a good teaching tool for teens.

Navid is to blame. Navid had the fake IDs. Navid procured the alcohol he drank in excess that night. Navid (probably too drunk to function/act with reason) chose not to get in the Uber with his friends. Navid suffered the ultimate consequence of his actions. Like I said, just heartbreaking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The party hosts were acting responsibly:

http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Beat/2018/Police-Parents-Wont-Be-Charged-for-House-Party-That-Bethesda-Teen-Left-Before-He-Died/

"Police said there is no indication the homeowners provided alcohol to the teens at the house. The homeowners told police that they explained to the attendees that no alcohol was allowed and called some parents after discovering minors had brought alcohol to the party, police said.

Police said that what the homeowners told them that night, which was captured on body camera, was corroborated by one of the teens that night, as well as in a follow-up investigation.

Police also determined that the bottle of vodka found with Sepehri’s body was purchased from a store outside the county. Police did not specify where and said they have not determined how Sepehri got the bottle.

However, police reported that they found two fraudulent Pennsylvania driver’s licenses on Sepehri that list him as old enough to buy alcohol."

+1 I find NO FAULT on the party hosts. They seem have to have done everything right. I still do not understand why the police to not look for Navid earlier.

I have to agree. Seems unfair to run the diplomat family’s name and reputation through the wringer when it sounds like they were doing the right things.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have Navid's friends not been forthcoming?

The friends should have an idea where he got the alcohol. They should be able to explain how he ended up alone.

I would expect that they should be able to answer most if not all of the questions posed. If they aren't telling that is despicable. Just like those kids at the party in the Traviliah crash who wouldn't talk. Shameful.

I read that the other boys' took an Uber home, but Navid declined and said he would walk. Who is to blame?

Navid. That's what his parents have failed to accept yet. It's so heartbreaking to read these posts. The story as a whole is very heartbreaking, but a good teaching tool for teens.

Navid is to blame. Navid had the fake IDs. Navid procured the alcohol he drank in excess that night. Navid (probably too drunk to function/act with reason) chose not to get in the Uber with his friends. Navid suffered the ultimate consequence of his actions. Like I said, just heartbreaking.

This x 1000000000... Thank god someone finally had the balls to spell this out on here.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have Navid's friends not been forthcoming?

The friends should have an idea where he got the alcohol. They should be able to explain how he ended up alone.

I would expect that they should be able to answer most if not all of the questions posed. If they aren't telling that is despicable. Just like those kids at the party in the Traviliah crash who wouldn't talk. Shameful.

I read that the other boys' took an Uber home, but Navid declined and said he would walk. Who is to blame?

Navid. That's what his parents have failed to accept yet. It's so heartbreaking to read these posts. The story as a whole is very heartbreaking, but a good teaching tool for teens.

Navid is to blame. Navid had the fake IDs. Navid procured the alcohol he drank in excess that night. Navid (probably too drunk to function/act with reason) chose not to get in the Uber with his friends. Navid suffered the ultimate consequence of his actions. Like I said, just heartbreaking.

This x 1000000000... Thank god someone finally had the balls to spell this out on here.

As sad as it is, I agree as well

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have Navid's friends not been forthcoming?

The friends should have an idea where he got the alcohol. They should be able to explain how he ended up alone.

I would expect that they should be able to answer most if not all of the questions posed. If they aren't telling that is despicable. Just like those kids at the party in the Traviliah crash who wouldn't talk. Shameful.

I read that the other boys' took an Uber home, but Navid declined and said he would walk. Who is to blame?

Navid. That's what his parents have failed to accept yet. It's so heartbreaking to read these posts. The story as a whole is very heartbreaking, but a good teaching tool for teens.

Navid is to blame. Navid had the fake IDs. Navid procured the alcohol he drank in excess that night. Navid (probably too drunk to function/act with reason) chose not to get in the Uber with his friends. Navid suffered the ultimate consequence of his actions. Like I said, just heartbreaking.

I tend to agree, but I think it would be easier for his family to accept things if they were really getting straightforward, nitty-gritty information, They may have an easier time believing things if someone could tell them how he got the fake ids, and that they know he purchased the alcohol. Maybe they need to hear the details of the last conversation his friends had with him. Maybe they feel like the friends are holding something back.
We certainly need to let our kids know that they should never be too afraid of getting in trouble to deal with a situation like this properly. If my kids are too drunk, if their friends are too drunk, I want them to know that calling us is always better than a situation ending in tragedy. And I don't want my kids to ever leave a drunk friend alone at night.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have Navid's friends not been forthcoming?

The friends should have an idea where he got the alcohol. They should be able to explain how he ended up alone.

I would expect that they should be able to answer most if not all of the questions posed. If they aren't telling that is despicable. Just like those kids at the party in the Traviliah crash who wouldn't talk. Shameful.

I read that the other boys' took an Uber home, but Navid declined and said he would walk. Who is to blame?

Navid. That's what his parents have failed to accept yet. It's so heartbreaking to read these posts. The story as a whole is very heartbreaking, but a good teaching tool for teens.

Navid is to blame. Navid had the fake IDs. Navid procured the alcohol he drank in excess that night. Navid (probably too drunk to function/act with reason) chose not to get in the Uber with his friends. Navid suffered the ultimate consequence of his actions. Like I said, just heartbreaking.

This x 1000000000... Thank god someone finally had the balls to spell this out on here.

As sad as it is, I agree as well

It's very sad but I also agree that the facts bear out that Navid's own decisions caused his demise. I'm sorry for his family.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have Navid's friends not been forthcoming?

The friends should have an idea where he got the alcohol. They should be able to explain how he ended up alone.

I would expect that they should be able to answer most if not all of the questions posed. If they aren't telling that is despicable. Just like those kids at the party in the Traviliah crash who wouldn't talk. Shameful.

I read that the other boys' took an Uber home, but Navid declined and said he would walk. Who is to blame?

Navid. That's what his parents have failed to accept yet. It's so heartbreaking to read these posts. The story as a whole is very heartbreaking, but a good teaching tool for teens.

Navid is to blame. Navid had the fake IDs. Navid procured the alcohol he drank in excess that night. Navid (probably too drunk to function/act with reason) chose not to get in the Uber with his friends. Navid suffered the ultimate consequence of his actions. Like I said, just heartbreaking.

I tend to agree, but I think it would be easier for his family to accept things if they were really getting straightforward, nitty-gritty information, They may have an easier time believing things if someone could tell them how he got the fake ids, and that they know he purchased the alcohol. Maybe they need to hear the details of the last conversation his friends had with him. Maybe they feel like the friends are holding something back.
We certainly need to let our kids know that they should never be too afraid of getting in trouble to deal with a situation like this properly. If my kids are too drunk, if their friends are too drunk, I want them to know that calling us is always better than a situation ending in tragedy. And I don't want my kids to ever leave a drunk friend alone at night.

+1, this family is looking for answers. No one is understanding their grief. If these kids were his true friends, they would not have left him and they would have called someone's parent to come get them. I don't care what kind of trouble my kid or their friend is in, they better call us. They will be in more trouble for not calling than what they actually did. The parents of the house should have made sure each parent was called and kids got home safely by uber, driving them or calling a parent. Or, they shouldn't have left their kids along in a house unsupervised if they cannot be trusted not to have a party without adults there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have Navid's friends not been forthcoming?

The friends should have an idea where he got the alcohol. They should be able to explain how he ended up alone.

I would expect that they should be able to answer most if not all of the questions posed. If they aren't telling that is despicable. Just like those kids at the party in the Traviliah crash who wouldn't talk. Shameful.

I read that the other boys' took an Uber home, but Navid declined and said he would walk. Who is to blame?

Navid. That's what his parents have failed to accept yet. It's so heartbreaking to read these posts. The story as a whole is very heartbreaking, but a good teaching tool for teens.

Navid is to blame. Navid had the fake IDs. Navid procured the alcohol he drank in excess that night. Navid (probably too drunk to function/act with reason) chose not to get in the Uber with his friends. Navid suffered the ultimate consequence of his actions. Like I said, just heartbreaking.

I tend to agree, but I think it would be easier for his family to accept things if they were really getting straightforward, nitty-gritty information, They may have an easier time believing things if someone could tell them how he got the fake ids, and that they know he purchased the alcohol. Maybe they need to hear the details of the last conversation his friends had with him. Maybe they feel like the friends are holding something back.
We certainly need to let our kids know that they should never be too afraid of getting in trouble to deal with a situation like this properly. If my kids are too drunk, if their friends are too drunk, I want them to know that calling us is always better than a situation ending in tragedy. And I don't want my kids to ever leave a drunk friend alone at night.

I had this conversation with my kids as well. You can not just let an intoxicated friend find their way home by themselves. You need to call the friend's parent or your own parents to let them know what is going on. I don't blame the police officer in any way, I'm sure he thought he was doing Navid and friends a favor, but I do think parents should be called to make sure a kid gets home safely. I'm sure that the adults and kids involved this situation wished they had made different decisions. It is a burden that will live with them forever. I wish peace to Navid's family. I had an aunt die in a mysterious circumstance at the age of 20. It still haunts my grandparents (in their late 80s). My aunts friends never were forthcoming about the circumstances of her disappearance and death-- the body was never found (they did not murder her, but, police and private investigators speculated that they knew what happened). I think it would have comforted my grandparents (and my dad) to understand more details.

[Anonymous]

If he had not 1 but 2 fake IDs - this is not the 1st time he has drank. If is not as if someone slipped him something that he was not aware of. There was intent. You do not "accidentally" wind up with a fake ID.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is such a difficult situation. My heart goes out to Navid's family. This could have happened to anyone. He seemed like a great kid.
The police should be more cooperative. I wonder if they are trying to cover up or deflect from their own mistakes.
The parents hosting the party should have, at the very least, made sure that intoxicated kids did not get into cars and drive.
There is a big problem in hosting large parties at the high school level. It is very naive to be surprised that alcohol was present even if they did not supply it.
Also, random kids do show up, that is the nature of things these days. You need to be prepared if you want to host a big party involving teenagers.

As a parent of intoxicated teens show up on my doorstep, I too would now allow them entrance. Additionally I will have ZERO involvement in getting them into any car. Too much liability. I have no way of knowing who is drunk and who is not.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have Navid's friends not been forthcoming?

The friends should have an idea where he got the alcohol. They should be able to explain how he ended up alone.

I would expect that they should be able to answer most if not all of the questions posed. If they aren't telling that is despicable. Just like those kids at the party in the Traviliah crash who wouldn't talk. Shameful.

I read that the other boys' took an Uber home, but Navid declined and said he would walk. Who is to blame?

Navid. That's what his parents have failed to accept yet. It's so heartbreaking to read these posts. The story as a whole is very heartbreaking, but a good teaching tool for teens.

Navid is to blame. Navid had the fake IDs. Navid procured the alcohol he drank in excess that night. Navid (probably too drunk to function/act with reason) chose not to get in the Uber with his friends. Navid suffered the ultimate consequence of his actions. Like I said, just heartbreaking.

I tend to agree, but I think it would be easier for his family to accept things if they were really getting straightforward, nitty-gritty information, They may have an easier time believing things if someone could tell them how he got the fake ids, and that they know he purchased the alcohol. Maybe they need to hear the details of the last conversation his friends had with him. Maybe they feel like the friends are holding something back.
We certainly need to let our kids know that they should never be too afraid of getting in trouble to deal with a situation like this properly. If my kids are too drunk, if their friends are too drunk, I want them to know that calling us is always better than a situation ending in tragedy. And I don't want my kids to ever leave a drunk friend alone at night.

+1, this family is looking for answers. No one is understanding their grief. If these kids were his true friends, they would not have left him and they would have called someone's parent to come get them. I don't care what kind of trouble my kid or their friend is in, they better call us. They will be in more trouble for not calling than what they actually did. The parents of the house should have made sure each parent was called and kids got home safely by uber, driving them or calling a parent. Or, they shouldn't have left their kids along in a house unsupervised if they cannot be trusted not to have a party without adults there.

I think you overestimate the ability of drunk kids on all sides to make good decisions. Don't underestimate their desire to stay out of trouble with their parents and the cops. We spend so much time telling kids that they will ruin their future with one misstep. Maybe when Navid said he'd walk, in their drunk state assumed he'd be ok and wanted to get out of there. I'm sure that everyone of them would take that moment back if they could.

I also don't think you've ever been around one of these things when the cops show. Kids scatter into the woods and all over the place. The idea that they could somehow corral all of them and make them call their parents is laughable. The kids in question were not invited to the party and were likely unknown to the host parents. Maybe other parents need to teach their kids not to go to places where they are not invited and there were adults there. Get your story straight.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have Navid's friends not been forthcoming?

The friends should have an idea where he got the alcohol. They should be able to explain how he ended up alone.

I would expect that they should be able to answer most if not all of the questions posed. If they aren't telling that is despicable. Just like those kids at the party in the Traviliah crash who wouldn't talk. Shameful.

I read that the other boys' took an Uber home, but Navid declined and said he would walk. Who is to blame?

Navid. That's what his parents have failed to accept yet. It's so heartbreaking to read these posts. The story as a whole is very heartbreaking, but a good teaching tool for teens.

Navid is to blame. Navid had the fake IDs. Navid procured the alcohol he drank in excess that night. Navid (probably too drunk to function/act with reason) chose not to get in the Uber with his friends. Navid suffered the ultimate consequence of his actions. Like I said, just heartbreaking.

I tend to agree, but I think it would be easier for his family to accept things if they were really getting straightforward, nitty-gritty information, They may have an easier time believing things if someone could tell them how he got the fake ids, and that they know he purchased the alcohol. Maybe they need to hear the details of the last conversation his friends had with him. Maybe they feel like the friends are holding something back.
We certainly need to let our kids know that they should never be too afraid of getting in trouble to deal with a situation like this properly. If my kids are too drunk, if their friends are too drunk, I want them to know that calling us is always better than a situation ending in tragedy. And I don't want my kids to ever leave a drunk friend alone at night.

+1, this family is looking for answers. No one is understanding their grief. If these kids were his true friends, they would not have left him and they would have called someone's parent to come get them. I don't care what kind of trouble my kid or their friend is in, they better call us. They will be in more trouble for not calling than what they actually did. The parents of the house should have made sure each parent was called and kids got home safely by uber, driving them or calling a parent. Or, they shouldn't have left their kids along in a house unsupervised if they cannot be trusted not to have a party without adults there.

I agree that parents hosting the party should have stepped in and acted as adults to ensure safety of high school student participants. Perhaps they did not break the law, but as adults we can learn that we shouldn't be afraid to step in and provide firm guidance. What a terrible tragedy.

[Anonymous]

Weren’t the friends drunk too? How would the friends look out for him if they could barely look out for themselves? I have gotten wasted and barely realized what happened when I woke up. You can’t blame the friends in this situation, sorry

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have Navid's friends not been forthcoming?

The friends should have an idea where he got the alcohol. They should be able to explain how he ended up alone.

I would expect that they should be able to answer most if not all of the questions posed. If they aren't telling that is despicable. Just like those kids at the party in the Traviliah crash who wouldn't talk. Shameful.

I read that the other boys' took an Uber home, but Navid declined and said he would walk. Who is to blame?

Navid. That's what his parents have failed to accept yet. It's so heartbreaking to read these posts. The story as a whole is very heartbreaking, but a good teaching tool for teens.

Navid is to blame. Navid had the fake IDs. Navid procured the alcohol he drank in excess that night. Navid (probably too drunk to function/act with reason) chose not to get in the Uber with his friends. Navid suffered the ultimate consequence of his actions. Like I said, just heartbreaking.

I tend to agree, but I think it would be easier for his family to accept things if they were really getting straightforward, nitty-gritty information, They may have an easier time believing things if someone could tell them how he got the fake ids, and that they know he purchased the alcohol. Maybe they need to hear the details of the last conversation his friends had with him. Maybe they feel like the friends are holding something back.
We certainly need to let our kids know that they should never be too afraid of getting in trouble to deal with a situation like this properly. If my kids are too drunk, if their friends are too drunk, I want them to know that calling us is always better than a situation ending in tragedy. And I don't want my kids to ever leave a drunk friend alone at night.

+1, this family is looking for answers. No one is understanding their grief. If these kids were his true friends, they would not have left him and they would have called someone's parent to come get them. I don't care what kind of trouble my kid or their friend is in, they better call us. They will be in more trouble for not calling than what they actually did. The parents of the house should have made sure each parent was called and kids got home safely by uber, driving them or calling a parent. Or, they shouldn't have left their kids along in a house unsupervised if they cannot be trusted not to have a party without adults there.

I agree that parents hosting the party should have stepped in and acted as adults to ensure safety of high school student participants. Perhaps they did not break the law, but as adults we can learn that we shouldn't be afraid to step in and provide firm guidance. What a terrible tragedy.

But this was a small party for a younger child - the 17 year olds were not invited, they just showed up. To a party of a younger sibling of a friend. Yes, I am sure everyone wishes that Navid's parents had been called -- by the host parents (if they knew Navid was there), the other teens, the cops, etc.

And how do you know that the parents didn't try to step in? They did call at least 1 parent. In my experience, drunk high school seniors don't politely wait while you call their parents . . . .