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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious OP - why continue on with RDs at other institutions if you got in SCEA Harvard? It's expensive, time-consuming, nail-biting, an enormous hassle and a stressor on your kid. I don't get it.

I see nothing wrong with a successful senior benchmarking that success by applying to other Top Ivies.

That's the kid who will end up without close friends and other families for future recommendations and network. What people don't think about is greediness leads them to be viewed as selfish, inconsiderate and either not very smart about or blundering their social collateral. With all the early hooks, seldom would most view entry as the sign of a senior being successful purely on academic merit so what is that benchmark worth? What will be noted and remembered is the lack of character. Families who do this are forever remarked upon as lacking graciousness and not to be trusted. And in your case it didn't work so your DC's H success is not going to be attributed to merit at all on her part. The most successful families we know do not do this.

Trust me, no one will even remember, let alone nurse a grudge. Do you remember who applied to which college back in High school? If you do, I would think you were a bit psycho.

It's not the specific decision that shows the type of behavior described by PP. But, likely indicative of a pattern of behavior. I do remember a sorority sister -very smart- who had a full ride to our university. FULL RIDE. Plus additional scholarship money. Great for her. However, she didn't need all that additional money. She basically attended college at no cost. I'm sure saved some for grad school. But, spent a fair amount of that scholarship money on purchases at J.Crew and other clothing stores. That money could have gone to another student who actually needed the money. I still judge her harshly for that greed and selfishness.

Thank heavens an idiot like you is not running our country. You need to take some basic lessons in economics. This obsession with hating people who "allegedly have more" than "what I have" is ruining this country. Most people have more because they "worked for it". This girl got the merit aid, because she deserved it. Redistributing her aid to some other student, just because....... is a terrible idea. Merely Redistributing the "output of production" from the more productive person to the less productive person does little to help the less productive person become more productive. Idi Amin tried this is Uganda. The Ugandan economy collapsed after he unilaterally usurped the wealth of an immigrant community and handed it over to the locals.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious OP - why continue on with RDs at other institutions if you got in SCEA Harvard? It's expensive, time-consuming, nail-biting, an enormous hassle and a stressor on your kid. I don't get it.

I see nothing wrong with a successful senior benchmarking that success by applying to other Top Ivies.

That's the kid who will end up without close friends and other families for future recommendations and network. What people don't think about is greediness leads them to be viewed as selfish, inconsiderate and either not very smart about or blundering their social collateral. With all the early hooks, seldom would most view entry as the sign of a senior being successful purely on academic merit so what is that benchmark worth? What will be noted and remembered is the lack of character. Families who do this are forever remarked upon as lacking graciousness and not to be trusted. And in your case it didn't work so your DC's H success is not going to be attributed to merit at all on her part. The most successful families we know do not do this.

Trust me, no one will even remember, let alone nurse a grudge. Do you remember who applied to which college back in High school? If you do, I would think you were a bit psycho.

It's not the specific decision that shows the type of behavior described by PP. But, likely indicative of a pattern of behavior. I do remember a sorority sister -very smart- who had a full ride to our university. FULL RIDE. Plus additional scholarship money. Great for her. However, she didn't need all that additional money. She basically attended college at no cost. I'm sure saved some for grad school. But, spent a fair amount of that scholarship money on purchases at J.Crew and other clothing stores. That money could have gone to another student who actually needed the money. I still judge her harshly for that greed and selfishness.

Thank heavens an idiot like you is not running our country. You need to take some basic lessons in economics. This obsession with hating people who "allegedly have more" than "what I have" is ruining this country. Most people have more because they "worked for it". This girl got the merit aid, because she deserved it. Redistributing her aid to some other student, just because....... is a terrible idea. Merely Redistributing the "output of production" from the more productive person to the less productive person does little to help the less productive person become more productive. Idi Amin tried this is Uganda. The Ugandan economy collapsed after he unilaterally usurped the wealth of an immigrant community and handed it over to the locals.

You know you've made a compelling argument when it starts off with name calling.

You think the girl who received aid was the only one who "worked for it" or was "less productive"? You think there was no one close to her grades/activities? You know as well as I do that these decisions regarding aid, acceptances, etc. often come down to splitting hairs. I didn't begrudge her getting the aid, in and of itself, as she is a very smart woman. But, that scholarship money was meant to help with schooling not to buy a fancy flannel. That's greedy and selfish, to the point one of the first PPs stated. And I agree with it.

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Anonymous wrote:Happy to say that life has moved on very successfully. It's true that they all end up where they belong. But I can't stand families that screw up the process for their community for no good reason other than short sighted self-gratification. Just putting a note out there to others about the benefits from being thoughtful of others. Not very religious but there's that " Do unto others..."

Please stop your sanctimonious preaching. If John D. Rockefeller, Leeland Stanford, Bill Gates and countless others had followed your asinine philosophy, we would not have the University of Chicago, Stanford, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and many other institutions which help countless humans.

What you call "short sighted self-gratification" is what provides incentives for humans to work hard and be productive. Adversarial competition, encourages the average student to study and perform better, so she doesn't have to fear that another kid from her school is applying to the same school she is applying. She will rest easy knowing that she can hold her ground against any student. You could take your logic to its logically foolish end, by actually passing rules to prevent students from applying to more than "1" elite school, like they do in the UK where you can apply to only "Cambridge or Oxford" but not both. You think this is what will help the students in the long run?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious OP - why continue on with RDs at other institutions if you got in SCEA Harvard? It's expensive, time-consuming, nail-biting, an enormous hassle and a stressor on your kid. I don't get it.

I see nothing wrong with a successful senior benchmarking that success by applying to other Top Ivies.

That's the kid who will end up without close friends and other families for future recommendations and network. What people don't think about is greediness leads them to be viewed as selfish, inconsiderate and either not very smart about or blundering their social collateral. With all the early hooks, seldom would most view entry as the sign of a senior being successful purely on academic merit so what is that benchmark worth? What will be noted and remembered is the lack of character. Families who do this are forever remarked upon as lacking graciousness and not to be trusted. And in your case it didn't work so your DC's H success is not going to be attributed to merit at all on her part. The most successful families we know do not do this.

Trust me, no one will even remember, let alone nurse a grudge. Do you remember who applied to which college back in High school? If you do, I would think you were a bit psycho.

It's not the specific decision that shows the type of behavior described by PP. But, likely indicative of a pattern of behavior. I do remember a sorority sister -very smart- who had a full ride to our university. FULL RIDE. Plus additional scholarship money. Great for her. However, she didn't need all that additional money. She basically attended college at no cost. I'm sure saved some for grad school. But, spent a fair amount of that scholarship money on purchases at J.Crew and other clothing stores. That money could have gone to another student who actually needed the money. I still judge her harshly for that greed and selfishness.

Thank heavens an idiot like you is not running our country. You need to take some basic lessons in economics. This obsession with hating people who "allegedly have more" than "what I have" is ruining this country. Most people have more because they "worked for it". This girl got the merit aid, because she deserved it. Redistributing her aid to some other student, just because....... is a terrible idea. Merely Redistributing the "output of production" from the more productive person to the less productive person does little to help the less productive person become more productive. Idi Amin tried this is Uganda. The Ugandan economy collapsed after he unilaterally usurped the wealth of an immigrant community and handed it over to the locals.

You know you've made a compelling argument when it starts off with name calling.

You think the girl who received aid was the only one who "worked for it" or was "less productive"? You think there was no one close to her grades/activities? You know as well as I do that these decisions regarding aid, acceptances, etc. often come down to splitting hairs. I didn't begrudge her getting the aid, in and of itself, as she is a very smart woman. But, that scholarship money was meant to help with schooling not to buy a fancy flannel. That's greedy and selfish, to the point one of the first PPs stated. And I agree with it.

Are you nuts? Merit aid is by definition given out to people that the college decides deserve it more than others. It is their money, they get to decide. Who died and made you the judge on who deserves that pot of money and who doesn't and what that pot should be used for. Stop your smug virtue signaling. Properly channeled greed and selfishness is what populated this country and propelled it to become a world super power in remarkably short time.

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Anonymous wrote:Happy to say that life has moved on very successfully. It's true that they all end up where they belong. But I can't stand families that screw up the process for their community for no good reason other than short sighted self-gratification. Just putting a note out there to others about the benefits from being thoughtful of others. Not very religious but there's that " Do unto others..."

Please stop your sanctimonious preaching. If John D. Rockefeller, Leeland Stanford, Bill Gates and countless others had followed your asinine philosophy, we would not have the University of Chicago, Stanford, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and many other institutions which help countless humans.

What you call "short sighted self-gratification" is what provides incentives for humans to work hard and be productive. Adversarial competition, encourages the average student to study and perform better, so she doesn't have to fear that another kid from her school is applying to the same school she is applying. She will rest easy knowing that she can hold her ground against any student. You could take your logic to its logically foolish end, by actually passing rules to prevent students from applying to more than "1" elite school, like they do in the UK where you can apply to only "Cambridge or Oxford" but not both. You think this is what will help the students in the long run?

Isn't that effectively what SCEA is meant to do?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious OP - why continue on with RDs at other institutions if you got in SCEA Harvard? It's expensive, time-consuming, nail-biting, an enormous hassle and a stressor on your kid. I don't get it.

I see nothing wrong with a successful senior benchmarking that success by applying to other Top Ivies.

That's the kid who will end up without close friends and other families for future recommendations and network. What people don't think about is greediness leads them to be viewed as selfish, inconsiderate and either not very smart about or blundering their social collateral. With all the early hooks, seldom would most view entry as the sign of a senior being successful purely on academic merit so what is that benchmark worth? What will be noted and remembered is the lack of character. Families who do this are forever remarked upon as lacking graciousness and not to be trusted. And in your case it didn't work so your DC's H success is not going to be attributed to merit at all on her part. The most successful families we know do not do this.

My kid got into HYPS this year SCEA. Never in a million years would DC apply to other schools for a benchmark. First, it could hurt DC's fellow classmate's chances to get into the other schools. Second, what more of a benchmark would DC need?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious OP - why continue on with RDs at other institutions if you got in SCEA Harvard? It's expensive, time-consuming, nail-biting, an enormous hassle and a stressor on your kid. I don't get it.

I see nothing wrong with a successful senior benchmarking that success by applying to other Top Ivies.

That's the kid who will end up without close friends and other families for future recommendations and network. What people don't think about is greediness leads them to be viewed as selfish, inconsiderate and either not very smart about or blundering their social collateral. With all the early hooks, seldom would most view entry as the sign of a senior being successful purely on academic merit so what is that benchmark worth? What will be noted and remembered is the lack of character. Families who do this are forever remarked upon as lacking graciousness and not to be trusted. And in your case it didn't work so your DC's H success is not going to be attributed to merit at all on her part. The most successful families we know do not do this.

Trust me, no one will even remember, let alone nurse a grudge. Do you remember who applied to which college back in High school? If you do, I would think you were a bit psycho.

It's not the specific decision that shows the type of behavior described by PP. But, likely indicative of a pattern of behavior. I do remember a sorority sister -very smart- who had a full ride to our university. FULL RIDE. Plus additional scholarship money. Great for her. However, she didn't need all that additional money. She basically attended college at no cost. I'm sure saved some for grad school. But, spent a fair amount of that scholarship money on purchases at J.Crew and other clothing stores. That money could have gone to another student who actually needed the money. I still judge her harshly for that greed and selfishness.

Thank heavens an idiot like you is not running our country. You need to take some basic lessons in economics. This obsession with hating people who "allegedly have more" than "what I have" is ruining this country. Most people have more because they "worked for it". This girl got the merit aid, because she deserved it. Redistributing her aid to some other student, just because....... is a terrible idea. Merely Redistributing the "output of production" from the more productive person to the less productive person does little to help the less productive person become more productive. Idi Amin tried this is Uganda. The Ugandan economy collapsed after he unilaterally usurped the wealth of an immigrant community and handed it over to the locals.

You know you've made a compelling argument when it starts off with name calling.

You think the girl who received aid was the only one who "worked for it" or was "less productive"? You think there was no one close to her grades/activities? You know as well as I do that these decisions regarding aid, acceptances, etc. often come down to splitting hairs. I didn't begrudge her getting the aid, in and of itself, as she is a very smart woman. But, that scholarship money was meant to help with schooling not to buy a fancy flannel. That's greedy and selfish, to the point one of the first PPs stated. And I agree with it.

Are you nuts? Merit aid is by definition given out to people that the college decides deserve it more than others. It is their money, they get to decide. Who died and made you the judge on who deserves that pot of money and who doesn't and what that pot should be used for. Stop your smug virtue signaling. Properly channeled greed and selfishness is what populated this country and propelled it to become a world super power in remarkably short time.

Something you may aspire to. I do not.

And, I didn't say that colleges did not get to decide who gets aid (in this case it was not the college). Of course they do. I just disagree that people should take more than they need. And who gets to judge? Well, it's my opinion, so me. Just like it is my opinion to judge you a jerk.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious OP - why continue on with RDs at other institutions if you got in SCEA Harvard? It's expensive, time-consuming, nail-biting, an enormous hassle and a stressor on your kid. I don't get it.

I see nothing wrong with a successful senior benchmarking that success by applying to other Top Ivies.

That's the kid who will end up without close friends and other families for future recommendations and network. What people don't think about is greediness leads them to be viewed as selfish, inconsiderate and either not very smart about or blundering their social collateral. With all the early hooks, seldom would most view entry as the sign of a senior being successful purely on academic merit so what is that benchmark worth? What will be noted and remembered is the lack of character. Families who do this are forever remarked upon as lacking graciousness and not to be trusted. And in your case it didn't work so your DC's H success is not going to be attributed to merit at all on her part. The most successful families we know do not do this.

Trust me, no one will even remember, let alone nurse a grudge. Do you remember who applied to which college back in High school? If you do, I would think you were a bit psycho.

It's not the specific decision that shows the type of behavior described by PP. But, likely indicative of a pattern of behavior. I do remember a sorority sister -very smart- who had a full ride to our university. FULL RIDE. Plus additional scholarship money. Great for her. However, she didn't need all that additional money. She basically attended college at no cost. I'm sure saved some for grad school. But, spent a fair amount of that scholarship money on purchases at J.Crew and other clothing stores. That money could have gone to another student who actually needed the money. I still judge her harshly for that greed and selfishness.

Thank heavens an idiot like you is not running our country. You need to take some basic lessons in economics. This obsession with hating people who "allegedly have more" than "what I have" is ruining this country. Most people have more because they "worked for it". This girl got the merit aid, because she deserved it. Redistributing her aid to some other student, just because....... is a terrible idea. Merely Redistributing the "output of production" from the more productive person to the less productive person does little to help the less productive person become more productive. Idi Amin tried this is Uganda. The Ugandan economy collapsed after he unilaterally usurped the wealth of an immigrant community and handed it over to the locals.

You know you've made a compelling argument when it starts off with name calling.

You think the girl who received aid was the only one who "worked for it" or was "less productive"? You think there was no one close to her grades/activities? You know as well as I do that these decisions regarding aid, acceptances, etc. often come down to splitting hairs. I didn't begrudge her getting the aid, in and of itself, as she is a very smart woman. But, that scholarship money was meant to help with schooling not to buy a fancy flannel. That's greedy and selfish, to the point one of the first PPs stated. And I agree with it.

Are you nuts? Merit aid is by definition given out to people that the college decides deserve it more than others. It is their money, they get to decide. Who died and made you the judge on who deserves that pot of money and who doesn't and what that pot should be used for. Stop your smug virtue signaling. Properly channeled greed and selfishness is what populated this country and propelled it to become a world super power in remarkably short time.

Something you may aspire to. I do not.

And, I didn't say that colleges did not get to decide who gets aid (in this case it was not the college). Of course they do. I just disagree that people should take more than they need. And who gets to judge? Well, it's my opinion, so me. Just like it is my opinion to judge you a jerk.

Fair enough. You can think I am jerk and I will think you are a blood sucking imbicile who wants to profit from other people's hard work to enrich themselves while feeling morally superior.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious OP - why continue on with RDs at other institutions if you got in SCEA Harvard? It's expensive, time-consuming, nail-biting, an enormous hassle and a stressor on your kid. I don't get it.

I see nothing wrong with a successful senior benchmarking that success by applying to other Top Ivies.

That's the kid who will end up without close friends and other families for future recommendations and network. What people don't think about is greediness leads them to be viewed as selfish, inconsiderate and either not very smart about or blundering their social collateral. With all the early hooks, seldom would most view entry as the sign of a senior being successful purely on academic merit so what is that benchmark worth? What will be noted and remembered is the lack of character. Families who do this are forever remarked upon as lacking graciousness and not to be trusted. And in your case it didn't work so your DC's H success is not going to be attributed to merit at all on her part. The most successful families we know do not do this.

My kid got into HYPS this year SCEA. Never in a million years would DC apply to other schools for a benchmark. First, it could hurt DC's fellow classmate's chances to get into the other schools. Second, what more of a benchmark would DC need?

Our DC did too but did not pull other apps to top schools. People can and do whatever they want. Don't care if people are mad.

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Anonymous wrote:Happy to say that life has moved on very successfully. It's true that they all end up where they belong. But I can't stand families that screw up the process for their community for no good reason other than short sighted self-gratification. Just putting a note out there to others about the benefits from being thoughtful of others. Not very religious but there's that " Do unto others..."

Please stop your sanctimonious preaching. If John D. Rockefeller, Leeland Stanford, Bill Gates and countless others had followed your asinine philosophy, we would not have the University of Chicago, Stanford, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and many other institutions which help countless humans.

What you call "short sighted self-gratification" is what provides incentives for humans to work hard and be productive. Adversarial competition, encourages the average student to study and perform better, so she doesn't have to fear that another kid from her school is applying to the same school she is applying. She will rest easy knowing that she can hold her ground against any student. You could take your logic to its logically foolish end, by actually passing rules to prevent students from applying to more than "1" elite school, like they do in the UK where you can apply to only "Cambridge or Oxford" but not both. You think this is what will help the students in the long run?

Wow. You really believe admissions is totally based on merit and she's so special she beat out everyone based on her intellectual superiority. I think your daughter may be attending the best college for her. And it's really apparent what the other schools backed away from. It's a pretty big shark pool out there. Sounds like she'll be swimming alone. Good luck with that. The examples you quoted were brilliant people but they had a people supporting them and seems to me most bent over backwards to give a hand (in their own ways) when it didn't hurt them.

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Anonymous wrote:Happy to say that life has moved on very successfully. It's true that they all end up where they belong. But I can't stand families that screw up the process for their community for no good reason other than short sighted self-gratification. Just putting a note out there to others about the benefits from being thoughtful of others. Not very religious but there's that " Do unto others..."

Please stop your sanctimonious preaching. If John D. Rockefeller, Leeland Stanford, Bill Gates and countless others had followed your asinine philosophy, we would not have the University of Chicago, Stanford, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and many other institutions which help countless humans.

What you call "short sighted self-gratification" is what provides incentives for humans to work hard and be productive. Adversarial competition, encourages the average student to study and perform better, so she doesn't have to fear that another kid from her school is applying to the same school she is applying. She will rest easy knowing that she can hold her ground against any student. You could take your logic to its logically foolish end, by actually passing rules to prevent students from applying to more than "1" elite school, like they do in the UK where you can apply to only "Cambridge or Oxford" but not both. You think this is what will help the students in the long run?

Wow. You really believe admissions is totally based on merit and she's so special she beat out everyone based on her intellectual superiority. I think your daughter may be attending the best college for her. And it's really apparent what the other schools backed away from. It's a pretty big shark pool out there. Sounds like she'll be swimming alone. Good luck with that. The examples you quoted were brilliant people but they had a people supporting them and seems to me most bent over backwards to give a hand (in their own ways) when it didn't hurt them.

BTW - Above not meant to denigrate Harvard. They're open about seeking leadership in their student and parent body among all the other socially engineered buckets. I can't imagine a better pool to handle this mom and her offspring.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious OP - why continue on with RDs at other institutions if you got in SCEA Harvard? It's expensive, time-consuming, nail-biting, an enormous hassle and a stressor on your kid. I don't get it.

I see nothing wrong with a successful senior benchmarking that success by applying to other Top Ivies.

That's the kid who will end up without close friends and other families for future recommendations and network. What people don't think about is greediness leads them to be viewed as selfish, inconsiderate and either not very smart about or blundering their social collateral. With all the early hooks, seldom would most view entry as the sign of a senior being successful purely on academic merit so what is that benchmark worth? What will be noted and remembered is the lack of character. Families who do this are forever remarked upon as lacking graciousness and not to be trusted. And in your case it didn't work so your DC's H success is not going to be attributed to merit at all on her part. The most successful families we know do not do this.

Trust me, no one will even remember, let alone nurse a grudge. Do you remember who applied to which college back in High school? If you do, I would think you were a bit psycho.

It's not the specific decision that shows the type of behavior described by PP. But, likely indicative of a pattern of behavior. I do remember a sorority sister -very smart- who had a full ride to our university. FULL RIDE. Plus additional scholarship money. Great for her. However, she didn't need all that additional money. She basically attended college at no cost. I'm sure saved some for grad school. But, spent a fair amount of that scholarship money on purchases at J.Crew and other clothing stores. That money could have gone to another student who actually needed the money. I still judge her harshly for that greed and selfishness.

Thank heavens an idiot like you is not running our country.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious OP - why continue on with RDs at other institutions if you got in SCEA Harvard? It's expensive, time-consuming, nail-biting, an enormous hassle and a stressor on your kid. I don't get it.

I see nothing wrong with a successful senior benchmarking that success by applying to other Top Ivies.

That's the kid who will end up without close friends and other families for future recommendations and network. What people don't think about is greediness leads them to be viewed as selfish, inconsiderate and either not very smart about or blundering their social collateral. With all the early hooks, seldom would most view entry as the sign of a senior being successful purely on academic merit so what is that benchmark worth? What will be noted and remembered is the lack of character. Families who do this are forever remarked upon as lacking graciousness and not to be trusted. And in your case it didn't work so your DC's H success is not going to be attributed to merit at all on her part. The most successful families we know do not do this.

My kid got into HYPS this year SCEA. Never in a million years would DC apply to other schools for a benchmark. First, it could hurt DC's fellow classmate's chances to get into the other schools. Second, what more of a benchmark would DC need?

Our DC did too but did not pull other apps to top schools. People can and do whatever they want. Don't care if people are mad.

I'm not mad. I just think you and your DC are assholes if DC left the other apps for any other reason than because DC needed more money from other schools or DC was serious about attending the other schools or both.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious OP - why continue on with RDs at other institutions if you got in SCEA Harvard? It's expensive, time-consuming, nail-biting, an enormous hassle and a stressor on your kid. I don't get it.

I see nothing wrong with a successful senior benchmarking that success by applying to other Top Ivies.

That's the kid who will end up without close friends and other families for future recommendations and network. What people don't think about is greediness leads them to be viewed as selfish, inconsiderate and either not very smart about or blundering their social collateral. With all the early hooks, seldom would most view entry as the sign of a senior being successful purely on academic merit so what is that benchmark worth? What will be noted and remembered is the lack of character. Families who do this are forever remarked upon as lacking graciousness and not to be trusted. And in your case it didn't work so your DC's H success is not going to be attributed to merit at all on her part. The most successful families we know do not do this.

My kid got into HYPS this year SCEA. Never in a million years would DC apply to other schools for a benchmark. First, it could hurt DC's fellow classmate's chances to get into the other schools. Second, what more of a benchmark would DC need?

Our DC did too but did not pull other apps to top schools. People can and do whatever they want. Don't care if people are mad.

I'm not mad. I just think you and your DC are assholes if DC left the other apps for any other reason than because DC needed more money from other schools or DC was serious about attending the other schools or both.

First, Viability at multiple schools is a much better sign of applicant strength than getting admitted at one school, even if that school is Harvard, because kids are admitted for all kinds of weird social justice reasons now. In fact if you don't make it to any other school, any sane candidate should question whether "s/he will survive and thrive" at the school that admitted them, since other schools did not think that the candidate's credentials made the cut. There are many kids (specially URM's, first gens and athletes) that go for the best school that admits them and then land up at the bottom of their cohort and are forced to switch majors when they could have done pretty well in a competitive major at lower tier school.

Finding out where you really stand is not just for bragging rights. There is no clear and easily available information that an applicant can use to really assess his or her strength nationally before making a college choice. The SAT/ACT exams are a joke.


regarding the "I think you are assholes" comment, you are a self-righteous, virtue signaling moron. How are parents who angle for free money more virtuous than parents who want to test the strength of their kids against other kids in the application process. What about parents who shop around for financial aid, thus depriving lower SES students from bigger financial aid packages. I am sure you don't consider them Assholes. And you are an imbecile if you think that one kid pulling his or her app is going to radically change another kid's chances of getting in. You get in, if you make the cut, not because another kid pulled her app.

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Many colleges still take only a limited number of kids from any one high school, so while it doesn’t change your chances much if a kids d from Idaho pulls his app, it very much changes your chances if the kid sitting next to you does.

And I really don’t understand what you think you will learn if your kid gets accepted to Harvard, Bowdoin and Amherst instead of just to Harvard. So what?