Accepted Harvard SCEA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am surprised that the counselors allowed it. Had a kid in our class who got into HYP during SCEA and wanted to apply to all ivies during RD - counselor put a stop to it and only allowed one IVY as kid wanted to compare financial aid.

+1. In our small private HYP-type schools take only one child. It hurts the chances of everyone else in the school if you get in SCEA and don't take it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious OP - why continue on with RDs at other institutions if you got in SCEA Harvard? It's expensive, time-consuming, nail-biting, an enormous hassle and a stressor on your kid. I don't get it.

Hm, if you cannot pay for several applications, then you probably cannot pay for ivy.

My kid applied to 16 colleges, got to two Ivies so far. It is not stressful for a smart child to submit that amount of applications. If it is causing stress and nail biting, maybe it is not the right place for your child.

As to the time consuming, most preparation is done in summer. All tests wwere completed at 11 grade.

Questbridge and if you ask fees can be waived.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious OP - why continue on with RDs at other institutions if you got in SCEA Harvard? It's expensive, time-consuming, nail-biting, an enormous hassle and a stressor on your kid. I don't get it.

I see nothing wrong with a successful senior benchmarking that success by applying to other Top Ivies.

I loathe people like you.

[Anonymous]

If the SCEA schools had any sense of fairness for students, they would accept applications and announce their results before the ED and EA deadlines of other schools.

Instead they bar kids from applying to any other private school and thus channel over 90% of the applicants without any hooks into the brutal RD rounds where admit rates are in the low single digits after they get deferred or rejected. It would be tolerable if they broke down their admit stats for the SCEA rounds so that unhooked kids could see their dismal chances, but they deliberately conflate those stats with that of legacies, athletes, URM's etc to maliciously and deliberately conceal and mislead unhooked applicants with a larger dubious admit rate that never applies to them. Talk about market power abuse. The only thing that would make this worse is if this were SCED, but wait.... For all practical purposes it really is just that....

They of course have the right to do whatever they want, but I can't believe that unhooked kids still take the bait. At least ED schools let you apply elsewhere in case it doesn't work out.

[Anonymous]

They could impose SCEA among HYPS, but allow EA apps to other schools (like they allow simultaneous apps to public and foreign schools).

Though, really, I’d prefer an all RD system. But I don’t work in admissions so don’t have to worry about volume of apps or spreading out the work over what, already, is a very short time frame.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Waitlisted at Williams and Bowdoin
Rejected at MIT, Pomona, Swarthmore

1600 SAT 4.93 GPA Slew of national distinctions

We're holding up just fine, but this year seems brutal.

Worst humblebrag I've ever read. Ever.

Congrats, though. That is impressive. Which is what you wanted to hear. So, I'll say it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious OP - why continue on with RDs at other institutions if you got in SCEA Harvard? It's expensive, time-consuming, nail-biting, an enormous hassle and a stressor on your kid. I don't get it.

I see nothing wrong with a successful senior benchmarking that success by applying to other Top Ivies.

That's the kid who will end up without close friends and other families for future recommendations and network. What people don't think about is greediness leads them to be viewed as selfish, inconsiderate and either not very smart about or blundering their social collateral. With all the early hooks, seldom would most view entry as the sign of a senior being successful purely on academic merit so what is that benchmark worth? What will be noted and remembered is the lack of character. Families who do this are forever remarked upon as lacking graciousness and not to be trusted. And in your case it didn't work so your DC's H success is not going to be attributed to merit at all on her part. The most successful families we know do not do this.

Trust me, no one will even remember, let alone nurse a grudge. Do you remember who applied to which college back in High school? If you do, I would think you were a bit psycho.

It's not the specific decision that shows the type of behavior described by PP. But, likely indicative of a pattern of behavior. I do remember a sorority sister -very smart- who had a full ride to our university. FULL RIDE. Plus additional scholarship money. Great for her. However, she didn't need all that additional money. She basically attended college at no cost. I'm sure saved some for grad school. But, spent a fair amount of that scholarship money on purchases at J.Crew and other clothing stores. That money could have gone to another student who actually needed the money. I still judge her harshly for that greed and selfishness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Waitlisted at Williams and Bowdoin
Rejected at MIT, Pomona, Swarthmore

1600 SAT 4.93 GPA Slew of national distinctions

We're holding up just fine, but this year seems brutal.

Worst humblebrag I've ever read. Ever.

Congrats, though. That is impressive. Which is what you wanted to hear. So, I'll say it.

I don't think so. People on this board seem to consistently think that the perceivec gap between top Ivy schools and other great schools is much wider than it actually is. Many, many great schools ultimately are a crap shoot for kids with sterling statistics. This illustrates that stats that might get you into what may be viewed as the pinnacle don't get you in everywhere. The take-away is two-fold. One, it is hard to get in to schools and two, threre is a random factor that you cannot do much about in light of the many qualified candidates.

So haters can hate, but I apprecaite OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Waitlisted at Williams and Bowdoin
Rejected at MIT, Pomona, Swarthmore

1600 SAT 4.93 GPA Slew of national distinctions

We're holding up just fine, but this year seems brutal.

Worst humblebrag I've ever read. Ever.

Congrats, though. That is impressive. Which is what you wanted to hear. So, I'll say it.[/quote

Glad to hear you’re holding up OP. I’m with the posters who have no patience for kids who get these top spots SCEA and then turn around and apply to more- just to earn feathers in their cap. It happened when my DC applied and not one of those kids ended up picking, say Middlebury over Yale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Waitlisted at Williams and Bowdoin
Rejected at MIT, Pomona, Swarthmore

1600 SAT 4.93 GPA Slew of national distinctions

We're holding up just fine, but this year seems brutal.

Worst humblebrag I've ever read. Ever.

Congrats, though. That is impressive. Which is what you wanted to hear. So, I'll say it.

Ooh. What a roast!!! You had to bring the OP down a few notches didn't you?

BTW, getting into HYPS is not impressive anymore, because they admit students for all kinds of "weird, social justice reasons" that have very little to do with the student's innate intellectual gravitas. This is why, very few unhooked kids get into multiple institutions. The only admit that impresses me anymore is a Caltech admit. Now that admit signals you are something else. Every other institution is just a "Meh"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious OP - why continue on with RDs at other institutions if you got in SCEA Harvard? It's expensive, time-consuming, nail-biting, an enormous hassle and a stressor on your kid. I don't get it.

I see nothing wrong with a successful senior benchmarking that success by applying to other Top Ivies.

That's the kid who will end up without close friends and other families for future recommendations and network. What people don't think about is greediness leads them to be viewed as selfish, inconsiderate and either not very smart about or blundering their social collateral. With all the early hooks, seldom would most view entry as the sign of a senior being successful purely on academic merit so what is that benchmark worth? What will be noted and remembered is the lack of character. Families who do this are forever remarked upon as lacking graciousness and not to be trusted. And in your case it didn't work so your DC's H success is not going to be attributed to merit at all on her part. The most successful families we know do not do this.

Trust me, no one will even remember, let alone nurse a grudge. Do you remember who applied to which college back in High school? If you do, I would think you were a bit psycho.

The families of the class remember their impress of the kid and the family. And it's not years down the road. It's early as internships and first jobs out of college. [/quot
PP, you’re either batshit crazy or still chafed because you ended up at some third tier college and looking to assign blame. High school doesn’t matter anymore. Drop the chip, move on.

[Anonymous]

Happy to say that life has moved on very successfully. It's true that they all end up where they belong. But I can't stand families that screw up the process for their community for no good reason other than short sighted self-gratification. Just putting a note out there to others about the benefits from being thoughtful of others. Not very religious but there's that " Do unto others..."

[Anonymous]

BTW high school doesn't matter any more but a pattern of behaviour does. Who is going to want to do business or research with such an individual?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Happy to say that life has moved on very successfully. It's true that they all end up where they belong. But I can't stand families that screw up the process for their community for no good reason other than short sighted self-gratification. Just putting a note out there to others about the benefits from being thoughtful of others. Not very religious but there's that " Do unto others..."

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the SCEA schools had any sense of fairness for students, they would accept applications and announce their results before the ED and EA deadlines of other schools.

Instead they bar kids from applying to any other private school and thus channel over 90% of the applicants without any hooks into the brutal RD rounds where admit rates are in the low single digits after they get deferred or rejected. It would be tolerable if they broke down their admit stats for the SCEA rounds so that unhooked kids could see their dismal chances, but they deliberately conflate those stats with that of legacies, athletes, URM's etc to maliciously and deliberately conceal and mislead unhooked applicants with a larger dubious admit rate that never applies to them. Talk about market power abuse. The only thing that would make this worse is if this were SCED, but wait.... For all practical purposes it really is just that....

They of course have the right to do whatever they want, but I can't believe that unhooked kids still take the bait. At least ED schools let you apply elsewhere in case it doesn't work out.

+1