College Admissions Results for Class of 2018 - Nightmare or Pleasant Suprise?

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't the real hook URM + poverty? QB is a non factor. You're hyping too hard to be a casual observer. QB is hq'd in DC, yes?


I benefited from QB several years ago (was admitted to several partner schools, though I went elsewhere), so you're right that I'm not a casual observer. They are based in Palo Alto, CA.


I've never heard of QuestBridge before. I think the idea of getting poor smart kids hooked up to go to top universities is fantastic. Doesn't look like it's URM, just low SES and smart. Kudos to them.



To start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuestBridge


QB is all about finding those kids who are high achieving and low income. There are literally thousands of those kids out there - the majority ARE URM but that is not the driving factor. I posted upthread about the phenomenon of these students UNDERMATCHING - they mostly apply to schools that are way below their capability. The truth is that folks don't understand is that there way more students like this out there that are not in the pipeline for selective schools. Once they wake up and step into the game, the competition will get fiercer as time goes on. The benefit of all of this is getting these students in front of highly selective schools and QB applications are reviewed first.

https://www.questbridge.org/high-school-students/national-college-match/finalist-profile

My DC was invited to a selective college for a diversity fly-in program and met a ton of QB students. DC was impressed by all of them - they stay connected through Snapchat and they have been reporting their matches to the group. Really amazing. Also, want to point out that the Jack Kent Cooke Foundation does a similar program and those kids are amazing as well.



Well, the majority (70%) of poor high achievers are actually white. I'd be interested to see if the QB demographics mirror this or if more emphasis is placed on helping out the poor URM students.

https://www.chronicle.com/blogs/conversation/2013/03/19/the-untapped-pool-of-low-income-strivers

"69.4 percent of low-income very high achievers are white and 15.2 percent are Asian. By contrast, 5.7 percent are black and 7.6 percent are Hispanic."
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Depends on who applies. Which, in turn, may depend in part on things like which HSs are aware of (and routinely encourage kids to apply to) the program. Wouldn’t surprise me if such schools are disproportionately urban and almost exclusively low-income (which may well mean racially segregated). But kids can apply as individuals so if you are concerned about low-income white or Asian students missing out on this opportunity, tell them (or remind your kid’s school) that it’s available to them.
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"December 11, 2017
The QuestBridge Regular Decision Form is due."

Does that mean there's still time for students to apply to QB this cycle or is regular decision form for students who are already signed up for national college match?
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Anonymous wrote:"December 11, 2017
The QuestBridge Regular Decision Form is due."

Does that mean there's still time for students to apply to QB this cycle or is regular decision form for students who are already signed up for national college match?


The latter -- for QB finalists who didn't match early, or always planned to just do RD.

Here's the QuestBridge timeline for high school seniors:

https://www.questbridge.org/high-school-students/national-college-match/dates-deadlines
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Anonymous wrote:So far, so good - DS got into Pitt, which is his top choice.


Mazel Tov.

My kid did too. Didn't you love that sweet admissions video they sent?


DC liked that AND the little cardboard virtual reality viewer they sent.

I liked the $40K scholarship letter even more though
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Depends on who applies. Which, in turn, may depend in part on things like which HSs are aware of (and routinely encourage kids to apply to) the program. Wouldn’t surprise me if such schools are disproportionately urban and almost exclusively low-income (which may well mean racially segregated). But kids can apply as individuals so if you are concerned about low-income white or Asian students missing out on this opportunity, tell them (or remind your kid’s school) that it’s available to them.


Not concerned, just curious. Im just happy that they're concentrating on finding qualified kids.
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Anonymous wrote:So far, so good - DS got into Pitt, which is his top choice.


Mazel Tov.

My kid did too. Didn't you love that sweet admissions video they sent?


DC liked that AND the little cardboard virtual reality viewer they sent.

I liked the $40K scholarship letter even more though


Wow! That's great. We did not get that letter, unfortunately.
Anonymous
If you're matched by Questbridge it's 100% full ride free or 100% tuition free or it depends on your income level?

Can someone clarify how the list work? Do the colleges get to see your list or is that a secret? Say you have #1 Stanford and #2 Penn and they both accept you -- do they notify Questbridge first, then Questbridge just tells you you got into Stanford (and keeps other acceptances a secret, aside from telling Penn, etc. that it's not a match)?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn't the real hook URM + poverty? QB is a non factor. You're hyping too hard to be a casual observer. QB is hq'd in DC, yes?


I benefited from QB several years ago (was admitted to several partner schools, though I went elsewhere), so you're right that I'm not a casual observer. They are based in Palo Alto, CA.


I've never heard of QuestBridge before. I think the idea of getting poor smart kids hooked up to go to top universities is fantastic. Doesn't look like it's URM, just low SES and smart. Kudos to them.



To start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuestBridge


QB is all about finding those kids who are high achieving and low income. There are literally thousands of those kids out there - the majority ARE URM but that is not the driving factor. I posted upthread about the phenomenon of these students UNDERMATCHING - they mostly apply to schools that are way below their capability. The truth is that folks don't understand is that there way more students like this out there that are not in the pipeline for selective schools. Once they wake up and step into the game, the competition will get fiercer as time goes on. The benefit of all of this is getting these students in front of highly selective schools and QB applications are reviewed first.

https://www.questbridge.org/high-school-students/national-college-match/finalist-profile

My DC was invited to a selective college for a diversity fly-in program and met a ton of QB students. DC was impressed by all of them - they stay connected through Snapchat and they have been reporting their matches to the group. Really amazing. Also, want to point out that the Jack Kent Cooke Foundation does a similar program and those kids are amazing as well.



Well, the majority (70%) of poor high achievers are actually white. I'd be interested to see if the QB demographics mirror this or if more emphasis is placed on helping out the poor URM students.

https://www.chronicle.com/blogs/conversation/2013/03/19/the-untapped-pool-of-low-income-strivers

"69.4 percent of low-income very high achievers are white and 15.2 percent are Asian. By contrast, 5.7 percent are black and 7.6 percent are Hispanic."


Don't be a dodo brain - URM kids are more likely than white kids to live in poor households in this country. On the flip side SLAC's made a particular effort after the Trump's election to seek out qualified low-income white students in rural areas.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you're matched by Questbridge it's 100% full ride free or 100% tuition free or it depends on your income level?

Can someone clarify how the list work? Do the colleges get to see your list or is that a secret? Say you have #1 Stanford and #2 Penn and they both accept you -- do they notify Questbridge first, then Questbridge just tells you you got into Stanford (and keeps other acceptances a secret, aside from telling Penn, etc. that it's not a match)?


It's a full ride (room, board, tuition, books at minimum) with no packaged loans. Colleges like Stanford and Penn don't offer merit aid, so they only give the scholarships to those who would normally get a full ride anyway (0 EFC). However, the Match scholarships also tend to be more generous- they might have lower work study expectations, summer work expectations, cover health insurance, etc. For instance, Pomona College requires a $1900 summer work contribution for all students ordinarily, but not for Matched students. UVA covers everything with aid- no work study or student contribution required. Many of the schools which would usually include loans would not do so for a Matched student.

You can apply to up to 12 schools through Match. Colleges do not know the specifics of the list (order or where you applied) besides the fact that you applied to them. They go through the applicants and send QuestBridge a list of the students they'd like to admit. It can range from 5 students at some partner colleges to close to a 100 at others- schools have individual jurisdiction to decide. QuestBridge couples all of the admit lists together and establishes where students are "matched". If you are familiar with the process of residency in medical school (Match Day), that's what the process was inspired by. In your situation, the student will get an email that Stanford matched them, but they will not know that UPenn also matched them. QuestBridge will send a list of the established matches to the schools for that years and also where the others they were interested in but couldn't get (due to higher ordering) matriculated to.

Match is generally binding unless you are matched to Stanford, Yale, Princeton, or MIT. They can continue applying in RD, and often they get into the others, Harvard, and the like. Schools don't really try to "woo" the non-binding Match scholars because they know they generally can't out-compete them for enrollment purposes.
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Wow, that was grammatically terrible. Pardon me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn't the real hook URM + poverty? QB is a non factor. You're hyping too hard to be a casual observer. QB is hq'd in DC, yes?


I benefited from QB several years ago (was admitted to several partner schools, though I went elsewhere), so you're right that I'm not a casual observer. They are based in Palo Alto, CA.


I've never heard of QuestBridge before. I think the idea of getting poor smart kids hooked up to go to top universities is fantastic. Doesn't look like it's URM, just low SES and smart. Kudos to them.



To start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuestBridge


QB is all about finding those kids who are high achieving and low income. There are literally thousands of those kids out there - the majority ARE URM but that is not the driving factor. I posted upthread about the phenomenon of these students UNDERMATCHING - they mostly apply to schools that are way below their capability. The truth is that folks don't understand is that there way more students like this out there that are not in the pipeline for selective schools. Once they wake up and step into the game, the competition will get fiercer as time goes on. The benefit of all of this is getting these students in front of highly selective schools and QB applications are reviewed first.

https://www.questbridge.org/high-school-students/national-college-match/finalist-profile

My DC was invited to a selective college for a diversity fly-in program and met a ton of QB students. DC was impressed by all of them - they stay connected through Snapchat and they have been reporting their matches to the group. Really amazing. Also, want to point out that the Jack Kent Cooke Foundation does a similar program and those kids are amazing as well.



Well, the majority (70%) of poor high achievers are actually white. I'd be interested to see if the QB demographics mirror this or if more emphasis is placed on helping out the poor URM students.

https://www.chronicle.com/blogs/conversation/2013/03/19/the-untapped-pool-of-low-income-strivers

"69.4 percent of low-income very high achievers are white and 15.2 percent are Asian. By contrast, 5.7 percent are black and 7.6 percent are Hispanic."


Don't be a dodo brain - URM kids are more likely than white kids to live in poor households in this country. On the flip side SLAC's made a particular effort after the Trump's election to seek out qualified low-income white students in rural areas.


Yes, true. But the majority of high achievers living in poor households are white. That's what this is about right? Finding poor high achieving kids?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn't the real hook URM + poverty? QB is a non factor. You're hyping too hard to be a casual observer. QB is hq'd in DC, yes?


I benefited from QB several years ago (was admitted to several partner schools, though I went elsewhere), so you're right that I'm not a casual observer. They are based in Palo Alto, CA.


I've never heard of QuestBridge before. I think the idea of getting poor smart kids hooked up to go to top universities is fantastic. Doesn't look like it's URM, just low SES and smart. Kudos to them.



To start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuestBridge


QB is all about finding those kids who are high achieving and low income. There are literally thousands of those kids out there - the majority ARE URM but that is not the driving factor. I posted upthread about the phenomenon of these students UNDERMATCHING - they mostly apply to schools that are way below their capability. The truth is that folks don't understand is that there way more students like this out there that are not in the pipeline for selective schools. Once they wake up and step into the game, the competition will get fiercer as time goes on. The benefit of all of this is getting these students in front of highly selective schools and QB applications are reviewed first.

https://www.questbridge.org/high-school-students/national-college-match/finalist-profile

My DC was invited to a selective college for a diversity fly-in program and met a ton of QB students. DC was impressed by all of them - they stay connected through Snapchat and they have been reporting their matches to the group. Really amazing. Also, want to point out that the Jack Kent Cooke Foundation does a similar program and those kids are amazing as well.



Well, the majority (70%) of poor high achievers are actually white. I'd be interested to see if the QB demographics mirror this or if more emphasis is placed on helping out the poor URM students.

https://www.chronicle.com/blogs/conversation/2013/03/19/the-untapped-pool-of-low-income-strivers

"69.4 percent of low-income very high achievers are white and 15.2 percent are Asian. By contrast, 5.7 percent are black and 7.6 percent are Hispanic."


Don't be a dodo brain - URM kids are more likely than white kids to live in poor households in this country. On the flip side SLAC's made a particular effort after the Trump's election to seek out qualified low-income white students in rural areas.


Yes, true. But the majority of high achievers living in poor households are white. That's what this is about right? Finding poor high achieving kids?


Yes but there is a concept called disproportionality that should be considered. Looking at it another way, by your logic mass incarceration would be something that impacts whites more than blacks based on sheer numbers. But we all know that is not true, correct? Don't be idiotic about this. It's just like the person on the political forum who posted a map of states that have the most welfare recipients - of course California tops the list because it has the most people - DUH!!!

Bottom line we have an issue of racial disparities in this country - deal with it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So far, so good - DS got into Pitt, which is his top choice.


Mazel Tov.

My kid did too. Didn't you love that sweet admissions video they sent?


DC liked that AND the little cardboard virtual reality viewer they sent.

I liked the $40K scholarship letter even more though


Wow! That's great. We did not get that letter, unfortunately.


Came a month later than the admission letter...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Quite a few ED's notify on 12/1. I've been following Tulane on CC as my DC applied there EA. It seems like the number of ED applications were way up and a bunch of kids were accepted for the Spring semester instead of the Fall. (It becomes non-binding at that point.) It sounds like many didn't even know that was an option, but reaction seems mostly positive. Evidently, Tulane has a fall semester in France or Italy which you can choose to participate in to help ease the pain.


Tulane has received over 42000 applications so far. They are mostly done with the ED now moving on to the EA. The acceptances letters are coming out in waves not at one time.
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