College Admissions Results for Class of 2018 - Nightmare or Pleasant Suprise?

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You saw what you were shown and have just demonstrated that you have no interest in understanding other POVs on the incident. This is the kind of Pyrrhic victory for free speech that Christakis and FIRE promote.

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This thread is officially off the rails. Not sure what any of this has to do with college admissions results.

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It will get back soon. ED2 is right around the corner. Kids feverishly finishing up apps during this winter break. Brace yourself. It will be a helluva roller coaster ride methinks.

[Anonymous]

Bummer this thread went off the rails. At one point it was interesting.

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Anonymous wrote:^ apologies. Tulane acceptance rate 26%, tougher than I thought.

Tulane apparently thinks the smart kids don’t really wish to attend and you’ve got to keep those admission stats up. Hope DC enjoys Alabama.

Alabama is a great school. For what it's worth, my daughter turned down Yale for University of Florida. She graduated two years ago. No regrets. She loved her college experience. And she had a great job offer before she graduated.

That's understandable. It's gone completely off the rails.

At least Florida doesn't get spooked over a few Halloween costumes that offend the "P.C. police."

You clearly have no understanding of the set of issues Yale was dealing with simultaneously. Simple reduction into a talking point that supports your view of the world, aye comrade.

It's really not that hard to understand. It was disgraceful the way those ignorant students treated that professor.

NP (and a former professor). Actually, prof was a grandstanding a-hole who, with his media activist friend in tow to film it, deliberately provoked a confrontation with students. No way in hell he or his wife should be in a position that involves serving a student support role in a residential college system.

I don't know on what basis you make those claims. The prof seemed very credible and he behaved very professionally in an obviously stressful situation dealing with students that came across as deranged in their disregard for logic and insanely entitled and disrespectful. You can make up whatever stories you'd like about the prof (although I question your intentions) but the students disgraceful behavior is there on the video for the world to see.

You saw a clip filmed by an activist which started about an hour into the discussion. Lacking context, your impression is simply calm white man has to deal with deranged, uppity (aka entitled) black girl. Barbarians at the gate. What has Yale come to? That’s the narrative F.I.R.E. is promoting and it did so effectively. It was not, however, how Yale’s administrators (Salovey, Holloway) saw the event, but, hey, the anti-PC narrative provides a built-in response — they've gone crazy and caved to the cry-bullies, entitled snowflakes, etc.

I make the claims I’ve made on the basis of reading broadly about this incident (e.g. Yale Daily news, PEN report, Jelani Cobb article in the New Yorker, Dean’s original email, EChristakis’s response), some familiarity with F.I.R.E.’s MO, an awareness of the tendency of Lukianoff and EChristakis to promote each other’s work, knowledge of a parallel situation at Harvard in 2012, and experience as a prof which gives me an understanding of the role of residential masters, courtesy appointments, campus policies on filming, and how to deal productively with antagonistic students. And my teaching fields/academic interests include media, public opinion formation, First Amendment issues, race and representation among other things.

You still provide no context or insight. And we can't take your word in light of the available documentation. The video shows what it shows and won't be explained on your say-so, as it simply lacks credibility.

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Anonymous wrote:^ apologies. Tulane acceptance rate 26%, tougher than I thought.

Tulane apparently thinks the smart kids don’t really wish to attend and you’ve got to keep those admission stats up. Hope DC enjoys Alabama.

Alabama is a great school. For what it's worth, my daughter turned down Yale for University of Florida. She graduated two years ago. No regrets. She loved her college experience. And she had a great job offer before she graduated.

That's understandable. It's gone completely off the rails.

At least Florida doesn't get spooked over a few Halloween costumes that offend the "P.C. police."

You clearly have no understanding of the set of issues Yale was dealing with simultaneously. Simple reduction into a talking point that supports your view of the world, aye comrade.

It's really not that hard to understand. It was disgraceful the way those ignorant students treated that professor.

Can you create a new thread for this - way off topic.

NP (and a former professor). Actually, prof was a grandstanding a-hole who, with his media activist friend in tow to film it, deliberately provoked a confrontation with students. No way in hell he or his wife should be in a position that involves serving a student support role in a residential college system.

I don't know on what basis you make those claims. The prof seemed very credible and he behaved very professionally in an obviously stressful situation dealing with students that came across as deranged in their disregard for logic and insanely entitled and disrespectful. You can make up whatever stories you'd like about the prof (although I question your intentions) but the students disgraceful behavior is there on the video for the world to see.

You saw a clip filmed by an activist which started about an hour into the discussion. Lacking context, your impression is simply calm white man has to deal with deranged, uppity (aka entitled) black girl. Barbarians at the gate. What has Yale come to? That’s the narrative F.I.R.E. is promoting and it did so effectively. It was not, however, how Yale’s administrators (Salovey, Holloway) saw the event, but, hey, the anti-PC narrative provides a built-in response — they've gone crazy and caved to the cry-bullies, entitled snowflakes, etc.

I make the claims I’ve made on the basis of reading broadly about this incident (e.g. Yale Daily news, PEN report, Jelani Cobb article in the New Yorker, Dean’s original email, EChristakis’s response), some familiarity with F.I.R.E.’s MO, an awareness of the tendency of Lukianoff and EChristakis to promote each other’s work, knowledge of a parallel situation at Harvard in 2012, and experience as a prof which gives me an understanding of the role of residential masters, courtesy appointments, campus policies on filming, and how to deal productively with antagonistic students. And my teaching fields/academic interests include media, public opinion formation, First Amendment issues, race and representation among other things.

You still provide no context or insight. And we can't take your word in light of the available documentation. The video shows what it shows and won't be explained on your say-so, as it simply lacks credibility.

[Anonymous]

Please start a new thread on this issue - you are way off topic.

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People wanna bash on Yale. Meanwhile, in other news, early action applications were up. My DC was admitted and will be attending.

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Another tough year for the DMV. Families need to continue to recalibrate on what is a “good” school.

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Anonymous wrote:^ apologies. Tulane acceptance rate 26%, tougher than I thought.

Tulane apparently thinks the smart kids don’t really wish to attend and you’ve got to keep those admission stats up. Hope DC enjoys Alabama.

Alabama is a great school. For what it's worth, my daughter turned down Yale for University of Florida. She graduated two years ago. No regrets. She loved her college experience. And she had a great job offer before she graduated.

That's understandable. It's gone completely off the rails.

At least Florida doesn't get spooked over a few Halloween costumes that offend the "P.C. police."

You clearly have no understanding of the set of issues Yale was dealing with simultaneously. Simple reduction into a talking point that supports your view of the world, aye comrade.

It's really not that hard to understand. It was disgraceful the way those ignorant students treated that professor.

NP (and a former professor). Actually, prof was a grandstanding a-hole who, with his media activist friend in tow to film it, deliberately provoked a confrontation with students. No way in hell he or his wife should be in a position that involves serving a student support role in a residential college system.

I don't know on what basis you make those claims. The prof seemed very credible and he behaved very professionally in an obviously stressful situation dealing with students that came across as deranged in their disregard for logic and insanely entitled and disrespectful. You can make up whatever stories you'd like about the prof (although I question your intentions) but the students disgraceful behavior is there on the video for the world to see.

You saw a clip filmed by an activist which started about an hour into the discussion. Lacking context, your impression is simply calm white man has to deal with deranged, uppity (aka entitled) black girl. Barbarians at the gate. What has Yale come to? That’s the narrative F.I.R.E. is promoting and it did so effectively. It was not, however, how Yale’s administrators (Salovey, Holloway) saw the event, but, hey, the anti-PC narrative provides a built-in response — they've gone crazy and caved to the cry-bullies, entitled snowflakes, etc.

I make the claims I’ve made on the basis of reading broadly about this incident (e.g. Yale Daily news, PEN report, Jelani Cobb article in the New Yorker, Dean’s original email, EChristakis’s response), some familiarity with F.I.R.E.’s MO, an awareness of the tendency of Lukianoff and EChristakis to promote each other’s work, knowledge of a parallel situation at Harvard in 2012, and experience as a prof which gives me an understanding of the role of residential masters, courtesy appointments, campus policies on filming, and how to deal productively with antagonistic students. And my teaching fields/academic interests include media, public opinion formation, First Amendment issues, race and representation among other things.

I saw a very rude, vulgar young woman who refused to engage in a dialogue or even attempt to listen to and understand an opposing opinion. I saw a professor who calmly listened to a student and attempted to have intelligent discourse in a non-emotive way but who was met with hysterical profanity and insults. You go ahead and craft whatever backstory you wish, I really could 't care less, but the video doesn't lie.

I agree and we're a long-time Yale family. Yale's capitulaiton was even more embarrassing. No more Yale for us

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People wanna bash on Yale. Meanwhile, in other news, early action applications were up. My DC was admitted and will be attending.

uh, early action applications were up everywhere. At every single school that I monitor because this is my field. Still, I would not send my child to Yale because of the bizarre left campus politics. You are paying $75K a year for an education, not p.c. indoctrination.

[Anonymous]

The Christakises left their positions in the residential college, and by all accounts there were no negative consequences for the screaming, cursing, irrational minority student. Shameful.

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Anonymous wrote:People wanna bash on Yale. Meanwhile, in other news, early action applications were up. My DC was admitted and will be attending.

uh, early action applications were up everywhere. At every single school that I monitor because this is my field. Still, I would not send my child to Yale because of the bizarre left campus politics. You are paying $75K a year for an education, not p.c. indoctrination.

We are not paying 75K. My kid has a mind of her own and can't be indoctrinated into anything. Believe what you want about the school. You are entitled to your opinion. But the truth remains, it's a top school that kids want to attend.

The end.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:People wanna bash on Yale. Meanwhile, in other news, early action applications were up. My DC was admitted and will be attending.

uh, early action applications were up everywhere. At every single school that I monitor because this is my field. Still, I would not send my child to Yale because of the bizarre left campus politics. You are paying $75K a year for an education, not p.c. indoctrination.

We are not paying 75K. My kid has a mind of her own and can't be indoctrinated into anything. Believe what you want about the school. You are entitled to your opinion. But the truth remains, it's a top school that kids want to attend.

The end.

Congrats. Fantastic school and an impressive achievement by your daughter.

[Anonymous]

Keep your "Yale Hate Speech" off this forum