The MAIN reason Trump won - low-paying jobs, part-time jobs

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt OP's veracity. We get treated to one of these moronic lying threads several times a day. Actually, far and away atrump voters did so from fear of immigrants and brown people.

+1, this has been shown several different ways. Trump voters were overwhelmingly voting on culture, race and immigration, not economics.

The economy had been recovering tremendously under Obama. But you'd never hear that on FOX News, instead it was all BS about "the REAL unemployment rate is 35%" and "what a horrible month of job creation, Obama only created 250,000 jobs this month, bah" nonsense and spin. The "economy" argument being made by the right wing has been fake all along.

Well of course an economy would recover after a deep recession. It's just the cyclical nature of it. But a president can either help or hinder a recovery depending on his polices, and Obama's were not business-friendly. Hence, the slowest recovery on record. Now look what happened when a pro-business president took over. We are at 3% growth and a 25% YOY increase in the market. But you'd never hear that on CNN.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt OP's veracity. We get treated to one of these moronic lying threads several times a day. Actually, far and away atrump voters did so from fear of immigrants and brown people.

+1, this has been shown several different ways. Trump voters were overwhelmingly voting on culture, race and immigration, not economics.

-1 they weren't voting on race and culture, or what you refer to as "immigration." They were voting 1) against illegal immigration, around which liberals are accepting, 2) for a conservative SCOTUS, and 3) for bringing back jobs through a more competitive climate. This nonsense about voting based on culture and race is a bunch of BS being advanced by liberals in order instill fear among their base and to turn out the vote.

The liberals have gotten so bad with their accusations of racist that one cannot even criticize any style or whatever if blacks disproportionately are part of that style. Reminds me of the days when you couldn't criticize any action of Obama's without your dislike of that action being attributed to racism.

Cultural anxiety. If you are against immigration and want a more conservative supreme court, those are just another manifestation of anxiety about a multicultural future.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/white-working-class-trump-cultural-anxiety/525771/

You liberals exasperate me. Whoever said I am against immigration? For the umpteenth time, I am against ILLEGAL immigration. And I want a conservative SCOTUS because I don't like when Justices legislate from the bench to meet a liberal agenda.

It doesn't matter what YOU think; the discussion is about why Trump won. Why do you think he's trying to clamp down on ALL immigration? It's not about terrorism or jobs; that's just a fig leaf for trying to preserve white cultural dominance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt OP's veracity. We get treated to one of these moronic lying threads several times a day. Actually, far and away atrump voters did so from fear of immigrants and brown people.

+1, this has been shown several different ways. Trump voters were overwhelmingly voting on culture, race and immigration, not economics.

-1 they weren't voting on race and culture, or what you refer to as "immigration." They were voting 1) against illegal immigration, around which liberals are accepting, 2) for a conservative SCOTUS, and 3) for bringing back jobs through a more competitive climate. This nonsense about voting based on culture and race is a bunch of BS being advanced by liberals in order instill fear among their base and to turn out the vote.

The liberals have gotten so bad with their accusations of racist that one cannot even criticize any style or whatever if blacks disproportionately are part of that style. Reminds me of the days when you couldn't criticize any action of Obama's without your dislike of that action being attributed to racism.

What do you mean? There have been a numerous polls and articles written about Trump voters "cultural anxiety" or "fear of diversity." I assume you are saying that is all a bunch of BS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I doubt OP's veracity. We get treated to one of these moronic lying threads several times a day. Actually, far and away atrump voters did so from fear of immigrants and brown people.

+1, this has been shown several different ways. Trump voters were overwhelmingly voting on culture, race and immigration, not economics.

The economy had been recovering tremendously under Obama. But you'd never hear that on FOX News, instead it was all BS about "the REAL unemployment rate is 35%" and "what a horrible month of job creation, Obama only created 250,000 jobs this month, bah" nonsense and spin. The "economy" argument being made by the right wing has been fake all along.

Well of course an economy would recover after a deep recession. It's just the cyclical nature of it. But a president can either help or hinder a recovery depending on his polices, and Obama's were not business-friendly. Hence, the slowest recovery on record. Now look what happened when a pro-business president took over. We are at 3% growth and a 25% YOY increase in the market. But you'd never hear that on CNN.

I hear jobs and market reports every day on CNN. (I prefer NPR, but same idea.) Seriously, you people are deranged with your fantasies about what the media covers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I doubt OP's veracity. We get treated to one of these moronic lying threads several times a day. Actually, far and away atrump voters did so from fear of immigrants and brown people.

+1, this has been shown several different ways. Trump voters were overwhelmingly voting on culture, race and immigration, not economics.

The economy had been recovering tremendously under Obama. But you'd never hear that on FOX News, instead it was all BS about "the REAL unemployment rate is 35%" and "what a horrible month of job creation, Obama only created 250,000 jobs this month, bah" nonsense and spin. The "economy" argument being made by the right wing has been fake all along.

Well of course an economy would recover after a deep recession. It's just the cyclical nature of it. But a president can either help or hinder a recovery depending on his polices, and Obama's were not business-friendly. Hence, the slowest recovery on record. Now look what happened when a pro-business president took over. We are at 3% growth and a 25% YOY increase in the market. But you'd never hear that on CNN.

Oh, I'm well aware of the market (and you are overhyping it) - yes, CNN does in fact have good coverage, not that I get my news from CNN anyhow - I get my news from a wide variety of sources, as most liberals do, instead of right wing "CNN, NBC, and the rest are fake news liberal propaganda" kinds of deliberate aversion to anything other than FOX and Breitbart. The things I bolded are pure bullshit talking points confabulated by the right wing. Business did just fine under Obama. Even the Koch brothers more than doubled their holdings and net worth under Obama even though they were theoretically in the crosshairs of Obama's supposed "war on business." But apparently in the bizarro world of conservatism, doubling your wealth is "anti-business." If more than doubling my wealth is bad for me then you can be bad to me any day of the week.

Trump has not enacted even one single piece of policy that can account for growth and most of what's happened under Trump is nothing more than a continuation of the same rates of recovery that were already happening under Obama. Wishful thinking on your part there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I doubt OP's veracity. We get treated to one of these moronic lying threads several times a day. Actually, far and away atrump voters did so from fear of immigrants and brown people.

+1, this has been shown several different ways. Trump voters were overwhelmingly voting on culture, race and immigration, not economics.

-1 they weren't voting on race and culture, or what you refer to as "immigration." They were voting 1) against illegal immigration, around which liberals are accepting, 2) for a conservative SCOTUS, and 3) for bringing back jobs through a more competitive climate. This nonsense about voting based on culture and race is a bunch of BS being advanced by liberals in order instill fear among their base and to turn out the vote.

The liberals have gotten so bad with their accusations of racist that one cannot even criticize any style or whatever if blacks disproportionately are part of that style. Reminds me of the days when you couldn't criticize any action of Obama's without your dislike of that action being attributed to racism.

Cultural anxiety. If you are against immigration and want a more conservative supreme court, those are just another manifestation of anxiety about a multicultural future.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/white-working-class-trump-cultural-anxiety/525771/

You liberals exasperate me. Whoever said I am against immigration? For the umpteenth time, I am against ILLEGAL immigration. And I want a conservative SCOTUS because I don't like when Justices legislate from the bench to meet a liberal agenda.

Sorry, it doesn't cut it to say you only want to curb illegal immigration because the President you voted for and support has been pushing to deeply cut legal immigration too. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/08/02/trump-gop-senators-to-introduce-bill-to-slash-legal-immigration-levels/?utm_term=.40e872eb96a4

And given the low unemployment rates he's constantly bragging about are we still going to claim that foreigners are coming hear and stealing all of our jobs? Doesn't compute.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most people are living paycheck-to-paycheck. I know I am. I make $85,000/year but I take home $59,950 AFTER TAXES and Social Security. So I am struggling to get by. I have over $30,000 in student loans and I live with 4 roommates. Even if I were making 6 figures, I'd get killed in taxes.

My income bracket is like the top 30 percent for a single male, which is incredibly sad. I know lots of folks my age struggling to find good employment. Employers are taking advantage of the poor economy by creating "internships" that pay peanuts and "part-time gigs" so as to avoid paying for healthcare.

I mean, most of the jobs created now are Uber jobs and Amazon warehouse jobs. Not exactly the type of jobs needed to make a living. And if you "get educated" and "learn skills", you will still get penalized during TAX SEASON!

So I get why folks voted Trump. The economy sucks. Hillary didn't offer any solutions to fix the economy. Trump made his campaign specifically about JOBS! JOBS! JOBS! I completely understand why people fell for this mad man. Yes, he's a mad man and a moron but the economy has improved and stock market is up... so I am rethinking my opinion about him.

You shouldn't depend on the government to solve your problems. Why aren't you pulling yourself up by your bootstraps? Why did you agree to $30,000 in student loans?

Since you don't think people should depend on the government to solve their problems, I assume you are opposed to Medicaid, food stamps, Obamacare subsidies, welfare, and subsidized housing. Why don't those leeches just pull themselves up by the bootstraps?

Well, your assumptions are completely wrong. My comments were to a person who voted for Trump whose party's platform is all about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps. Why would anyone vote republican expecting the government to solve their problems? It's nonsensical.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people are living paycheck-to-paycheck. I know I am. I make $85,000/year but I take home $59,950 AFTER TAXES and Social Security. So I am struggling to get by. I have over $30,000 in student loans and I live with 4 roommates. Even if I were making 6 figures, I'd get killed in taxes.

My income bracket is like the top 30 percent for a single male, which is incredibly sad. I know lots of folks my age struggling to find good employment. Employers are taking advantage of the poor economy by creating "internships" that pay peanuts and "part-time gigs" so as to avoid paying for healthcare.

I mean, most of the jobs created now are Uber jobs and Amazon warehouse jobs. Not exactly the type of jobs needed to make a living. And if you "get educated" and "learn skills", you will still get penalized during TAX SEASON!

So I get why folks voted Trump. The economy sucks. Hillary didn't offer any solutions to fix the economy. Trump made his campaign specifically about JOBS! JOBS! JOBS! I completely understand why people fell for this mad man. Yes, he's a mad man and a moron but the economy has improved and stock market is up... so I am rethinking my opinion about him.

You shouldn't depend on the government to solve your problems. Why aren't you pulling yourself up by your bootstraps? Why did you agree to $30,000 in student loans?

Since you don't think people should depend on the government to solve their problems, I assume you are opposed to Medicaid, food stamps, Obamacare subsidies, welfare, and subsidized housing. Why don't those leeches just pull themselves up by the bootstraps?

Well, your assumptions are completely wrong. My comments were to a person who voted for Trump whose party's platform is all about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps. Why would anyone vote republican expecting the government to solve their problems? It's nonsensical.

Not the poster you are replying to, but it goes back to culture, not economics. Trump voters are perfectly ok with government assistance as long as it's not going to inner cities. Republicans in general and Trump in particular are experts at exploiting cultural fears, from Willie Horton to the welfare queens to harvesting baby parts to rapists in the women's bathrooms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I doubt OP's veracity. We get treated to one of these moronic lying threads several times a day. Actually, far and away atrump voters did so from fear of immigrants and brown people.

+1, this has been shown several different ways. Trump voters were overwhelmingly voting on culture, race and immigration, not economics.

-1 they weren't voting on race and culture, or what you refer to as "immigration." They were voting 1) against illegal immigration, around which liberals are accepting, 2) for a conservative SCOTUS, and 3) for bringing back jobs through a more competitive climate. This nonsense about voting based on culture and race is a bunch of BS being advanced by liberals in order instill fear among their base and to turn out the vote.

The liberals have gotten so bad with their accusations of racist that one cannot even criticize any style or whatever if blacks disproportionately are part of that style. Reminds me of the days when you couldn't criticize any action of Obama's without your dislike of that action being attributed to racism.

Cultural anxiety. If you are against immigration and want a more conservative supreme court, those are just another manifestation of anxiety about a multicultural future.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/white-working-class-trump-cultural-anxiety/525771/

You liberals exasperate me. Whoever said I am against immigration? For the umpteenth time, I am against ILLEGAL immigration. And I want a conservative SCOTUS because I don't like when Justices legislate from the bench to meet a liberal agenda.

Oh, but instead you want a conservative Justice to legislate from the bench. You are such a hypocrite.

+1 lol... And you can thank the conservative SCOTUS for banning campaign finance reform - that thing the Dems wanted to push through which would limit big money in politics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people are living paycheck-to-paycheck. I know I am. I make $85,000/year but I take home $59,950 AFTER TAXES and Social Security. So I am struggling to get by. I have over $30,000 in student loans and I live with 4 roommates. Even if I were making 6 figures, I'd get killed in taxes.

My income bracket is like the top 30 percent for a single male, which is incredibly sad. I know lots of folks my age struggling to find good employment. Employers are taking advantage of the poor economy by creating "internships" that pay peanuts and "part-time gigs" so as to avoid paying for healthcare.

I mean, most of the jobs created now are Uber jobs and Amazon warehouse jobs. Not exactly the type of jobs needed to make a living. And if you "get educated" and "learn skills", you will still get penalized during TAX SEASON!

So I get why folks voted Trump. The economy sucks. Hillary didn't offer any solutions to fix the economy. Trump made his campaign specifically about JOBS! JOBS! JOBS! I completely understand why people fell for this mad man. Yes, he's a mad man and a moron but the economy has improved and stock market is up... so I am rethinking my opinion about him.

You shouldn't depend on the government to solve your problems. Why aren't you pulling yourself up by your bootstraps? Why did you agree to $30,000 in student loans?

Since you don't think people should depend on the government to solve their problems, I assume you are opposed to Medicaid, food stamps, Obamacare subsidies, welfare, and subsidized housing. Why don't those leeches just pull themselves up by the bootstraps?

Well, your assumptions are completely wrong. My comments were to a person who voted for Trump whose party's platform is all about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps. Why would anyone vote republican expecting the government to solve their problems? It's nonsensical.

Not the poster you are replying to, but it goes back to culture, not economics. Trump voters are perfectly ok with government assistance as long as it's not going to inner cities. Republicans in general and Trump in particular are experts at exploiting cultural fears, from Willie Horton to the welfare queens to harvesting baby parts to rapists in the women's bathrooms.

I think this is true, and some even don't realize that they are getting government handouts, ie, "government stay out of medicare" and the fact that many people think ACA is good, but Obamacare is bad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The average Trump voter was pretty wealthy. They did not need jobs.

This thread smells like reheated propaganda.

Something Mueller this way comes, eh?

They really have ramped it up lately, haven't they?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people are living paycheck-to-paycheck. I know I am. I make $85,000/year but I take home $59,950 AFTER TAXES and Social Security. So I am struggling to get by. I have over $30,000 in student loans and I live with 4 roommates. Even if I were making 6 figures, I'd get killed in taxes.

My income bracket is like the top 30 percent for a single male, which is incredibly sad. I know lots of folks my age struggling to find good employment. Employers are taking advantage of the poor economy by creating "internships" that pay peanuts and "part-time gigs" so as to avoid paying for healthcare.

I mean, most of the jobs created now are Uber jobs and Amazon warehouse jobs. Not exactly the type of jobs needed to make a living. And if you "get educated" and "learn skills", you will still get penalized during TAX SEASON!

So I get why folks voted Trump. The economy sucks. Hillary didn't offer any solutions to fix the economy. Trump made his campaign specifically about JOBS! JOBS! JOBS! I completely understand why people fell for this mad man. Yes, he's a mad man and a moron but the economy has improved and stock market is up... so I am rethinking my opinion about him.

You shouldn't depend on the government to solve your problems. Why aren't you pulling yourself up by your bootstraps? Why did you agree to $30,000 in student loans?

Since you don't think people should depend on the government to solve their problems, I assume you are opposed to Medicaid, food stamps, Obamacare subsidies, welfare, and subsidized housing. Why don't those leeches just pull themselves up by the bootstraps?

Well, your assumptions are completely wrong. My comments were to a person who voted for Trump whose party's platform is all about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps. Why would anyone vote republican expecting the government to solve their problems? It's nonsensical.

Not the poster you are replying to, but it goes back to culture, not economics. Trump voters are perfectly ok with government assistance as long as it's not going to inner cities. Republicans in general and Trump in particular are experts at exploiting cultural fears, from Willie Horton to the welfare queens to harvesting baby parts to rapists in the women's bathrooms.

I'm the PP you're replying to and I know why many Trump voters vote the way they do, but it's generally good to point out their hypocrisy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Also, the fact that people on this board actually do not know this speaks to the obliviousness of the liberal elite.

Actually most of the people who post and brag seem like people like my doctor friends that is people who came from the third world or extreme poverty. People who had money or grew up with greedy standards are not that thirsty for money and dont brag about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I doubt OP's veracity. We get treated to one of these moronic lying threads several times a day. Actually, far and away atrump voters did so from fear of immigrants and brown people.

+1, this has been shown several different ways. Trump voters were overwhelmingly voting on culture, race and immigration, not economics.

-1 they weren't voting on race and culture, or what you refer to as "immigration." They were voting 1) against illegal immigration, around which liberals are accepting, 2) for a conservative SCOTUS, and 3) for bringing back jobs through a more competitive climate. This nonsense about voting based on culture and race is a bunch of BS being advanced by liberals in order instill fear among their base and to turn out the vote.

The liberals have gotten so bad with their accusations of racist that one cannot even criticize any style or whatever if blacks disproportionately are part of that style. Reminds me of the days when you couldn't criticize any action of Obama's without your dislike of that action being attributed to racism.

Cultural anxiety. If you are against immigration and want a more conservative supreme court, those are just another manifestation of anxiety about a multicultural future.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/white-working-class-trump-cultural-anxiety/525771/

You liberals exasperate me. Whoever said I am against immigration? For the umpteenth time, I am against ILLEGAL immigration. And I want a conservative SCOTUS because I don't like when Justices legislate from the bench to meet a liberal agenda.

Sorry, it doesn't cut it to say you only want to curb illegal immigration because the President you voted for and support has been pushing to deeply cut legal immigration too. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/08/02/trump-gop-senators-to-introduce-bill-to-slash-legal-immigration-levels/?utm_term=.40e872eb96a4

And given the low unemployment rates he's constantly bragging about are we still going to claim that foreigners are coming hear and stealing all of our jobs? Doesn't compute.

Wapo is used toilet paper. Np. Dont believe anything they say since the election. I am hispanic american born here whose parents have always been respectful of American jobs. My parents left when their visa ran out then came back legally. We think employers hiring illegals left and right those employers being kfc, mcdonalds and other fast food joints and restaurants is the reason why illegals keep coming in by foot. No one knows their background. People keep renting to them also. My street had a string of car break ins last christmas right before a house of illegals moved out and as I was lugging in big boxes I bought a car of hispanics most likely illegal too stop and stared. I yelled wtf they were staring at and they sped off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I doubt OP's veracity. We get treated to one of these moronic lying threads several times a day. Actually, far and away atrump voters did so from fear of immigrants and brown people.

+1, this has been shown several different ways. Trump voters were overwhelmingly voting on culture, race and immigration, not economics.

-1 they weren't voting on race and culture, or what you refer to as "immigration." They were voting 1) against illegal immigration, around which liberals are accepting, 2) for a conservative SCOTUS, and 3) for bringing back jobs through a more competitive climate. This nonsense about voting based on culture and race is a bunch of BS being advanced by liberals in order instill fear among their base and to turn out the vote.

The liberals have gotten so bad with their accusations of racist that one cannot even criticize any style or whatever if blacks disproportionately are part of that style. Reminds me of the days when you couldn't criticize any action of Obama's without your dislike of that action being attributed to racism.

Cultural anxiety. If you are against immigration and want a more conservative supreme court, those are just another manifestation of anxiety about a multicultural future.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/white-working-class-trump-cultural-anxiety/525771/

You liberals exasperate me. Whoever said I am against immigration? For the umpteenth time, I am against ILLEGAL immigration. And I want a conservative SCOTUS because I don't like when Justices legislate from the bench to meet a liberal agenda.

Sorry, it doesn't cut it to say you only want to curb illegal immigration because the President you voted for and support has been pushing to deeply cut legal immigration too. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/08/02/trump-gop-senators-to-introduce-bill-to-slash-legal-immigration-levels/?utm_term=.40e872eb96a4

And given the low unemployment rates he's constantly bragging about are we still going to claim that foreigners are coming hear and stealing all of our jobs? Doesn't compute.

Wapo is used toilet paper. Np. Dont believe anything they say since the election. I am hispanic american born here whose parents have always been respectful of American jobs. My parents left when their visa ran out then came back legally. We think employers hiring illegals left and right those employers being kfc, mcdonalds and other fast food joints and restaurants is the reason why illegals keep coming in by foot. No one knows their background. People keep renting to them also. My street had a string of car break ins last christmas right before a house of illegals moved out and as I was lugging in big boxes I bought a car of hispanics most likely illegal too stop and stared. I yelled wtf they were staring at and they sped off.

Cool story, hermosa.