Out of State Schools and Merit Aid

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Anonymous wrote:Some good info on CC about automatic merit aid for certain stats. List is mostly for state publics if you are interested.

https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/21437224/#Comment_21437224

Not a fan of the straight GPA. My kid could have taken some easy classes in an easy public school for a high GPA’s. MCPS inflate their GPA’s. Rigorous college prep schools do not and getting a lot of A’s is no easy task.

I can see why so many private school kids prefer private colleges that look at school, rigor, how the school grades, etc... compared to state colleges.

These are a joke. Some only want a 30 ACT for the highest scholarships but a 3.75 unweighted GPA? That is strange.

If the colleges are large public state schools, I’d believe it. That’s how they give scholarships to kids from rural high schools who don’t have any AP/IB classes and have few honors classes. It’s getting all or mostly all A’s with the curriculum that’s offered when you have 75 kids in your graduating class.

I am not talking about comparing non weighted to weighted GPA’s.

I am talking a non weighted English remedial class in a rural school is not the same as Literature in a college prep school. To just blankly state they take X GPA without looking at what classes were taken is a mistake. Pitt was the only one on the list that said they look at the transcript to decide if the GPA is worthy of the scholarship. The rest don’t care if you take only 3 years of math or mostly remedial and electives. That I have a problem with .

Well that’s the reality. Big state schools (for the most part) aren’t going to look at a kid’s stats other than do they get this minimum GPA and that minimum test score, and if yes do they meet higher minimums to get merit aid. It’s somewhat unfair in terms of admissions and merit aid, yes, in that it gives a seeming advantage to kids coming out of small, non-competitive high schools. But the kid coming out of a competitive college prep HS who took honors and AP classes is going to be much more prepared for college, which is much more important in the long run.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some good info on CC about automatic merit aid for certain stats. List is mostly for state publics if you are interested.

https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/21437224/#Comment_21437224

Not a fan of the straight GPA. My kid could have taken some easy classes in an easy public school for a high GPA’s. MCPS inflate their GPA’s. Rigorous college prep schools do not and getting a lot of A’s is no easy task.

I can see why so many private school kids prefer private colleges that look at school, rigor, how the school grades, etc... compared to state colleges.

These are a joke. Some only want a 30 ACT for the highest scholarships but a 3.75 unweighted GPA? That is strange.

If the colleges are large public state schools, I’d believe it. That’s how they give scholarships to kids from rural high schools who don’t have any AP/IB classes and have few honors classes. It’s getting all or mostly all A’s with the curriculum that’s offered when you have 75 kids in your graduating class.

I am not talking about comparing non weighted to weighted GPA’s.

I am talking a non weighted English remedial class in a rural school is not the same as Literature in a college prep school. To just blankly state they take X GPA without looking at what classes were taken is a mistake. Pitt was the only one on the list that said they look at the transcript to decide if the GPA is worthy of the scholarship. The rest don’t care if you take only 3 years of math or mostly remedial and electives. That I have a problem with .

But you're mad at a state with low performing public schools. This is not UVA offering scholarships with hard cut-offs. Although they allow in and give scholarships to OOS students, they primarily serve in-state students. In other words, NOT YOU.

That list is most state schools and includes in and out of state tuition merit aid. These aren’t all crap schools that are only offering some in state kids a deal. Some packages are $30K plus for GPA above 3.75 and a min 30 ACT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I assume PP meant 4.36 gpa for Pitt and not 3.36.

Someone looking at Pitt as an OOS option because stats are not high enough for UVA or UMD should know that Pitt likely won't give them merit. They are looking for all A's and very high test scores.

Pitt was tough this year for merit aid. Lots of strong students got nothing.

But OP, Temple is very generous with merit aid for out-of-state students.

[Anonymous]

UConn out of state w/merit aid equaled Va instate. We preferred UConn. DD had 720 math SAT, don't remember other sections, math was the more significant. Unweighted GPA of 3.8/3 APs Calc BC, Chem, Physics C. Don't know that their decision was formula based though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Purdue if she is interested in engineering (and probably a few other OOS engineering schools).

Didn't happen for us (merit aid at Purdue) but your situation may vary. DS also got into Ga TEch for aerospace engineering. Also no merit aid.

OP's child is a daughter, Purdue gives more merit aid for female engineering students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UConn out of state w/merit aid equaled Va instate. We preferred UConn. DD had 720 math SAT, don't remember other sections, math was the more significant. Unweighted GPA of 3.8/3 APs Calc BC, Chem, Physics C. Don't know that their decision was formula based though.

UConn is a great school. Definitely on the rise like Pitt. Getting more strong candidates.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UConn out of state w/merit aid equaled Va instate. We preferred UConn. DD had 720 math SAT, don't remember other sections, math was the more significant. Unweighted GPA of 3.8/3 APs Calc BC, Chem, Physics C. Don't know that their decision was formula based though.

UConn is a great school. Definitely on the rise like Pitt. Getting more strong candidates.

Just wish it was in a better town. It's in the middle of nowhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UConn out of state w/merit aid equaled Va instate. We preferred UConn. DD had 720 math SAT, don't remember other sections, math was the more significant. Unweighted GPA of 3.8/3 APs Calc BC, Chem, Physics C. Don't know that their decision was formula based though.

UConn is a great school. Definitely on the rise like Pitt. Getting more strong candidates.

Just wish it was in a better town. It's in the middle of nowhere.

True but they built that town up a little and Providence is about 50min for weekends.