Christopher Columbus Monument Vandalized in Baltimore

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Anonymous wrote:I'm on the left and I don't like the vandalism. I would be fine if his statue came down through legal means. I have long thought the holiday was misplaced and should be renamed.

Me too. I'd like to remind people that "liberals" and "the left" aren't monoliths. While we have similar beliefs, we have different means to those ends.

I'm in favor of taking statues down and putting them in a museum or other educational facility. I am not pro-vandalism.

Excellent! Keep that in mind when the left labels all Trump supporters racists. I might support some of what Trump is doing, but that doesn't automatically make me a racist jerk.

Except it does.

And there you have it. Proving the point quite nicely.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I'm on the left and I don't like the vandalism. I would be fine if his statue came down through legal means. I have long thought the holiday was misplaced and should be renamed.

Me too. I'd like to remind people that "liberals" and "the left" aren't monoliths. While we have similar beliefs, we have different means to those ends.

I'm in favor of taking statues down and putting them in a museum or other educational facility. I am not pro-vandalism.

While this is true, I will point out to you that your liberal compatriots and peers have gotten exponentially worse - more extreme, self-righteous, felonious - in just the last year or so.

Which is exactly why I do not count myself in your ranks anymore.

There are also many of us who are quietly campaigning for progressive representation in the mid-term election, visiting our current representatives, attending town halls, and having actual discussions, along with the peaceful marches and actual work for progressive causes. We recognize that that's what's going to make real change happen.

Define your real change goals. Now what is wrong with Columbus Day? We should have Viking Day. But the Vikings didn't start the movement to the New World. Chiinese stopped in Africa. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=15040888

I suppose you want unlimited illegal immigration and benefits for those persons. We have been called a melting pot. Ever cook soup? The pot can get full.

Damn right. There's nothing wrong with sending the surplus illegals back to where they came from.

[Anonymous]

Christopher Columbus was a great American.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's right to vandalize but I agree that we shouldn't have monuments to genocidal maniacs, or a holiday in their honor...

The holiday is mostly celebrated to honor Italian Americans.

Maybe the Mafia can protect the Columbus statues.

Wasn't this a discussion on an episode of The Sopranos ?

I'd love to see some goodfellas kick the asses of those "Antifa" thugs. Pop the popcorn and sell tickets.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm on the left and I don't like the vandalism. I would be fine if his statue came down through legal means. I have long thought the holiday was misplaced and should be renamed.

Me too. I'd like to remind people that "liberals" and "the left" aren't monoliths. While we have similar beliefs, we have different means to those ends.

I'm in favor of taking statues down and putting them in a museum or other educational facility. I am not pro-vandalism.

Serious question: what museum would want those statues? Wouldn't they be vandalized too? I don't like Christopher Columbus but, I also don't agree with vandalism.

Are we like Isis and the taliban. Destroying whatever history or artifacts we do not approve of from day to day?

The statues should stay up with a BIG display noting the issues and histories of these historical figures in our nation's history.

so you think the Bill Cosby mural should have stayed up instead of replacing it with something else?

Bens Chile Bowl took down Bill Cosby and replaced him with that notorious corrupt racist and tax cheat D.C. Mayor Bar-ry. That may be worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm on the left and I don't like the vandalism. I would be fine if his statue came down through legal means. I have long thought the holiday was misplaced and should be renamed.

Me too. I'd like to remind people that "liberals" and "the left" aren't monoliths. While we have similar beliefs, we have different means to those ends.

I'm in favor of taking statues down and putting them in a museum or other educational facility. I am not pro-vandalism.

Excellent! Keep that in mind when the left labels all Trump supporters racists. I might support some of what Trump is doing, but that doesn't automatically make me a racist jerk.

The first draft of my response actually began with "Just like you keep trying to remind us that all conservatives aren't alike..." but I thought that might be incendiary. But yes, know that that was my intention.

It's hard to remember that all people on "the other side" aren't the enemy. But in an era like this one, it seems--to us--that if you support one position, you must support them all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm on the left and I don't like the vandalism. I would be fine if his statue came down through legal means. I have long thought the holiday was misplaced and should be renamed.

Me too. I'd like to remind people that "liberals" and "the left" aren't monoliths. While we have similar beliefs, we have different means to those ends.

I'm in favor of taking statues down and putting them in a museum or other educational facility. I am not pro-vandalism.

While this is true, I will point out to you that your liberal compatriots and peers have gotten exponentially worse - more extreme, self-righteous, felonious - in just the last year or so.

Which is exactly why I do not count myself in your ranks anymore.

Sure you were. Ha! Keep the laughs coming.

Interesting. I've gotten this response before. Denial much? Yeah, I was, and I'm not the only one. Still am a moderate, it's just that you crazy Left extremists have moved too far left, too extreme, too pompous and self righteous, and I'm over it.

Oh, I'm a minority, immigrant, female too. Kiss my a**.

[Anonymous]

It's hard to remember that all people on "the other side" aren't the enemy. But in an era like this one, it seems--to us--that if you support one position, you must support them all.


I did not vote for Trump. But on a purely emotional level, this sentiment and the incessant, hysterical rush to tag anyone who supports even a single position that Trump or the Republicans puts forward as a bigoted, homophobic, white supremacist racist tempts me to consider casting a "protest" vote for him in the next election.

[Anonymous]

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It's hard to remember that all people on "the other side" aren't the enemy. But in an era like this one, it seems--to us--that if you support one position, you must support them all.

I did not vote for Trump. But on a purely emotional level, this sentiment and the incessant, hysterical rush to tag anyone who supports even a single position that Trump or the Republicans puts forward as a bigoted, homophobic, white supremacist racist tempts me to consider casting a "protest" vote for him in the next election.
PP. My point was, it's hard to remember that the folks on the other side aren't the same. But we should talk to each other like individual human beings, not as "the enemy." That's all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It's hard to remember that all people on "the other side" aren't the enemy. But in an era like this one, it seems--to us--that if you support one position, you must support them all.

I did not vote for Trump. But on a purely emotional level, this sentiment and the incessant, hysterical rush to tag anyone who supports even a single position that Trump or the Republicans puts forward as a bigoted, homophobic, white supremacist racist tempts me to consider casting a "protest" vote for him in the next election.

PP. My point was, it's hard to remember that the folks on the other side aren't the same. But we should talk to each other like individual human beings, not as "the enemy." That's all.


edited for quote clarity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm on the left and I don't like the vandalism. I would be fine if his statue came down through legal means. I have long thought the holiday was misplaced and should be renamed.

Me too. I'd like to remind people that "liberals" and "the left" aren't monoliths. While we have similar beliefs, we have different means to those ends.

I'm in favor of taking statues down and putting them in a museum or other educational facility. I am not pro-vandalism.

While this is true, I will point out to you that your liberal compatriots and peers have gotten exponentially worse - more extreme, self-righteous, felonious - in just the last year or so.

Which is exactly why I do not count myself in your ranks anymore.

There are also many of us who are quietly campaigning for progressive representation in the mid-term election, visiting our current representatives, attending town halls, and having actual discussions, along with the peaceful marches and actual work for progressive causes. We recognize that that's what's going to make real change happen.

Define your real change goals. Now what is wrong with Columbus Day? We should have Viking Day. But the Vikings didn't start the movement to the New World. Chiinese stopped in Africa. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=15040888

I suppose you want unlimited illegal immigration and benefits for those persons. We have been called a melting pot. Ever cook soup? The pot can get full.

Damn right. There's nothing wrong with sending the surplus illegals back to where they came from.

Hmmmm. The natives of the day would consider Columbus s "surplus illegal."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm on the left and I don't like the vandalism. I would be fine if his statue came down through legal means. I have long thought the holiday was misplaced and should be renamed.

Me too. I'd like to remind people that "liberals" and "the left" aren't monoliths. While we have similar beliefs, we have different means to those ends.

I'm in favor of taking statues down and putting them in a museum or other educational facility. I am not pro-vandalism.

While this is true, I will point out to you that your liberal compatriots and peers have gotten exponentially worse - more extreme, self-righteous, felonious - in just the last year or so.

Which is exactly why I do not count myself in your ranks anymore.

Sure you were. Ha! Keep the laughs coming.

Interesting. I've gotten this response before. Denial much? Yeah, I was, and I'm not the only one. Still am a moderate, it's just that you crazy Left extremists have moved too far left, too extreme, too pompous and self righteous, and I'm over it.

Oh, I'm a minority, immigrant, female too. Kiss my a**.

Tila Tequila, is that you?!?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm on the left and I don't like the vandalism. I would be fine if his statue came down through legal means. I have long thought the holiday was misplaced and should be renamed.

Me too. I'd like to remind people that "liberals" and "the left" aren't monoliths. While we have similar beliefs, we have different means to those ends.

I'm in favor of taking statues down and putting them in a museum or other educational facility. I am not pro-vandalism.

While this is true, I will point out to you that your liberal compatriots and peers have gotten exponentially worse - more extreme, self-righteous, felonious - in just the last year or so.

Which is exactly why I do not count myself in your ranks anymore.

Sure you were. Ha! Keep the laughs coming.

Interesting. I've gotten this response before. Denial much? Yeah, I was, and I'm not the only one. Still am a moderate, it's just that you crazy Left extremists have moved too far left, too extreme, too pompous and self righteous, and I'm over it.

Oh, I'm a minority, immigrant, female too. Kiss my a**.

DP. This is me too! Minority's, female and a first generation immigrant. Grew up hating GW and his bogus war and was staunchly Democratic. Thought Al Franken was pretty awesome. But these past few years the Democrats have gone off the rails. Voted for Hillary because I thought Trump was an idiot but the amount of hate and lies they have been spewing have turned me off for sure. Voted for Hogan in Maryland because Brown was too far left for me.

Honestly, whether you believe it or not, there are quite a few lapsed democrats like us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm on the left and I don't like the vandalism. I would be fine if his statue came down through legal means. I have long thought the holiday was misplaced and should be renamed.

Me too. I'd like to remind people that "liberals" and "the left" aren't monoliths. While we have similar beliefs, we have different means to those ends.

I'm in favor of taking statues down and putting them in a museum or other educational facility. I am not pro-vandalism.

While this is true, I will point out to you that your liberal compatriots and peers have gotten exponentially worse - more extreme, self-righteous, felonious - in just the last year or so.

Which is exactly why I do not count myself in your ranks anymore.

Sure you were. Ha! Keep the laughs coming.

Interesting. I've gotten this response before. Denial much? Yeah, I was, and I'm not the only one. Still am a moderate, it's just that you crazy Left extremists have moved too far left, too extreme, too pompous and self righteous, and I'm over it.

Oh, I'm a minority, immigrant, female too. Kiss my a**.

DP. This is me too! Minority's, female and a first generation immigrant. Grew up hating GW and his bogus war and was staunchly Democratic. Thought Al Franken was pretty awesome. But these past few years the Democrats have gone off the rails. Voted for Hillary because I thought Trump was an idiot but the amount of hate and lies they have been spewing have turned me off for sure. Voted for Hogan in Maryland because Brown was too far left for me.

Honestly, whether you believe it or not, there are quite a few lapsed democrats like us.

Not a minority or immigrant, but reformed Democrat. Like you said, Dems have gone off the rails. I want nothing to do with that party anymore.

BTW, I work in public health. My program is for undocumented pregnant women and children. I love what I do. Go ahead, ultra libs - try to wrap your head around that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm on the left and I don't like the vandalism. I would be fine if his statue came down through legal means. I have long thought the holiday was misplaced and should be renamed.

Me too. I'd like to remind people that "liberals" and "the left" aren't monoliths. While we have similar beliefs, we have different means to those ends.

I'm in favor of taking statues down and putting them in a museum or other educational facility. I am not pro-vandalism.

While this is true, I will point out to you that your liberal compatriots and peers have gotten exponentially worse - more extreme, self-righteous, felonious - in just the last year or so.

Which is exactly why I do not count myself in your ranks anymore.

There are also many of us who are quietly campaigning for progressive representation in the mid-term election, visiting our current representatives, attending town halls, and having actual discussions, along with the peaceful marches and actual work for progressive causes. We recognize that that's what's going to make real change happen.

Define your real change goals. Now what is wrong with Columbus Day? We should have Viking Day. But the Vikings didn't start the movement to the New World. Chiinese stopped in Africa. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=15040888

I suppose you want unlimited illegal immigration and benefits for those persons. We have been called a melting pot. Ever cook soup? The pot can get full.

Damn right. There's nothing wrong with sending the surplus illegals back to where they came from.

Hmmmm. The natives of the day would consider Columbus s "surplus illegal."

Did Europeans come here with nothing and expect to be fully supported by what are technically called aboriginal peoples? What was on the land? Go to the wheel. The axel was the hard part to invent and it didn't seem to have been done in multiple locations. Incas, Aztecs-advanced civilizations with buildings were not in North America.

Polish and Ukraine. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-it-took-so-long-to-inv/

Oh the Poles- they are also the people who rescued Vienna from becoming part of the Ottoman Empire. All this hatred is really stupid.