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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm on the left and I don't like the vandalism.  I would be fine if his statue came down through legal means.  I have long thought the holiday was misplaced and should be renamed.  [/quote]
Me too. I'd like to remind people that [b]"liberals" and "the left" aren't monoliths.[/b] While we have similar beliefs, we have different means to those ends.

I'm in favor of taking statues down and putting them in a museum or other educational facility. I am not pro-vandalism. [/quote]

While this is true, I will point out to you that your liberal compatriots and peers have gotten exponentially worse - more extreme, self-righteous, felonious - in just the last year or so.

Which is exactly why I do not count myself in your ranks anymore.[/quote]
There are also many of us who are quietly campaigning for progressive representation in the mid-term election, visiting our current representatives, attending town halls, and having actual discussions, along with the peaceful marches and actual work for progressive causes. We recognize that that's what's going to[b] make real change happen[/b]. [/quote]

Define your real change goals.   Now what is wrong with Columbus Day?  We should have Viking Day.  But the Vikings didn't start the movement to the New World.  Chiinese stopped in Africa.  http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=15040888

I suppose you want unlimited illegal immigration and benefits for those persons.  We have been called a melting pot.  Ever cook soup?   The pot can get full.  [/quote]

Damn right.  There's nothing wrong with sending the surplus illegals back to where they came from.  [/quote]

Hmmmm. The natives of the day would consider Columbus s "surplus illegal."[/quote]

Did Europeans come here with nothing and expect to be fully supported by what are technically called aboriginal peoples?   What was on the land?   Go to the wheel.  The axel was the hard part to invent and it didn't seem to have been done in multiple locations.  Incas, Aztecs-advanced civilizations with buildings were not in North America.

Polish and Ukraine.  https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-it-took-so-long-to-inv/

Oh the Poles- they are also the people who rescued Vienna from becoming part of the Ottoman Empire.   All this hatred is really stupid.   [/quote]

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