DD is half Asian, half white. Is one better to declare for college applications?

[Anonymous]

everybody is looking for an advantage based on skin color, and wondering why race issues continue to prevail

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We opted not to specify our race categories on FCPS' forms but did indicate what languages we speak at home. Guess what, we a few years later found out that our mixed children are marked by FCPS in their system as Asians. Leaving it blank on the forms will likely just prompt the schools to choose the race category for you. BTW, it's not a myth that Asians are subjected to higher standards for college admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just pick African American.

The entire human race originated in Africa and we are American. Seems logical to me.



I wish there were a box that said "I refuse to give in to racists that would ask this question."

Honest question, but just how black do you have to be to pick African American? Do colleges even try to confirm it? I ask because my kids are 10% sub-saharan African (according to 23 and me).

Sub-saharan African? You do know there is a difference between African and African-American, right? Since humanity evolved from Africa (scientifically proven), go ahead and check the box AA and watch whites and asians battle each other about who's blacker. Sigh, PP......

Yes, but African-American is not a genetic group. If you are genetically black it shows as sub-saharan African, regardless of whether you are from South Carolina, Jamaica, or Ghana.

There is an undeniable genetic connection to Africa of African-Americans. That should be evident and undisputed. This is something that cannot be disputed or white-washed. Even the general region can be determined.

[Anonymous]

What a laugh! Posters have no problem checking the AA box for admission but would not literally trade places with the very people that you are claiming to check off. How sick. How Trumpian.

[Anonymous]

Chances are your child has already chosen a race (or multiple) when they took the PSAT and/or SAT. They have that information on record so I doubt changing it now will make a lot of difference.

FWIW, my daughter chose both Asian and Caucasian because that's what she is. Meanwhile she had a very white girl from her school choose Latino/Hispanic because her grandfather was the British ambassador to Panama years ago - and it made her eligible for lots of awards. I find that annoying but I wasn't going to encourage my daughter to do the same. Luckily her stats were strong and she got into her first choice ED.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We opted not to specify our race categories on FCPS' forms but did indicate what languages we speak at home. Guess what, we a few years later found out that our mixed children are marked by FCPS in their system as Asians. Leaving it blank on the forms will likely just prompt the schools to choose the race category for you. BTW, it's not a myth that Asians are subjected to higher standards for college admissions.

I was told by our counselor that if you choose to leave it blank then colleges assume you're Asian. Nobody with a decided advantage would leave it blank.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Asian for college. White for everything else in life.

Are you kidding? Asians need to have higher SATs and GPA than the White students. Even though Asians are minorities the colleges try and limit them because if they took only by merit and strength of the application the Asian students would be the majority in the colleges. Asian students take away seats from White students. Asian performance is what is widening the achievement gap with other races. Better to declare her as a White candidate and that way she will have less competition from other Asians.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ parent of a white kid. Choose white or mixed/ other.

Asian kids are absolutely held to higher GPA/ SAT standards because of quotas. Especially at higher ranked colleges, and especially in STEM.

Look at the admission stats/ class composition for Cal Tech (which by law is race blind) and MIT. Similar rankings.

Cal Tech is 42% Asian and 29% white.

https://www.registrar.caltech.edu/academics/enrollment

MIT, which s "holistic" and not race blind is 35% white and 26% Asian.

So unless admissions are race blind-- not Asian.


https://www.registrar.caltech.edu/academics/enrollment

Meaningless numbers. Whites are about 72% or the population and Asians are around 5%. It would stand to reason that there would be a greater percentage of Caucasians that Asians.

Right, but the same kids are apply to Cal Tech and MIT. They are probably the top 2 engineering schools in the country. Given similar applicant pools, Asians make up 42% of the class when race blind admissions used at Cal Tech, by law. And only 26% of the class when MIT can use more judgment to create a "diverse" school.

As a white parent, I know my kid has an edge over an Asian kid with identical qualifications at MIT. Asian quotas are a thing.

[Anonymous]

The fact that this discussion has to be held is a sad commentary.

[Anonymous]

Cablanasian

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Anonymous wrote:Cablanasian

That includes black.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We opted not to specify our race categories on FCPS' forms but did indicate what languages we speak at home. Guess what, we a few years later found out that our mixed children are marked by FCPS in their system as Asians. Leaving it blank on the forms will likely just prompt the schools to choose the race category for you. BTW, it's not a myth that Asians are subjected to higher standards for college admissions.

I was told by our counselor that if you choose to leave it blank then colleges assume you're Asian. Nobody with a decided advantage would leave it blank.

Begs the question: why would they assume the student is Asian if that is left blank?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ parent of a white kid. Choose white or mixed/ other.

Asian kids are absolutely held to higher GPA/ SAT standards because of quotas. Especially at higher ranked colleges, and especially in STEM.

Look at the admission stats/ class composition for Cal Tech (which by law is race blind) and MIT. Similar rankings.

Cal Tech is 42% Asian and 29% white.

https://www.registrar.caltech.edu/academics/enrollment

MIT, which s "holistic" and not race blind is 35% white and 26% Asian.

So unless admissions are race blind-- not Asian.


https://www.registrar.caltech.edu/academics/enrollment

Meaningless numbers. Whites are about 72% or the population and Asians are around 5%. It would stand to reason that there would be a greater percentage of Caucasians that Asians.

It's not about the % of population of the US. You have to look at the % of the applicant pool for the school.

[Anonymous]

After reading this I am tempted to check Hispanic for my jewish white daughter.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We opted not to specify our race categories on FCPS' forms but did indicate what languages we speak at home. Guess what, we a few years later found out that our mixed children are marked by FCPS in their system as Asians. Leaving it blank on the forms will likely just prompt the schools to choose the race category for you. BTW, it's not a myth that Asians are subjected to higher standards for college admissions.

I was told by our counselor that if you choose to leave it blank then colleges assume you're Asian. Nobody with a decided advantage would leave it blank.

Begs the question: why would they assume the student is Asian if that is left blank?

In FCPS, it is the least favorable racial category. Because they are overrepresneted in TJ admissions. I'm assuming colleges think along the same lines-- if someone won't tell, they get the least favorable treatment in admissions.