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06/09/2017 11:55

Subject: Re:Do you tip your paint crew?

Anonymous

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Anonymous wrote:Just some food for thought. We are having a fence installed and received estimates from 6 companies. 5 companies are within a few hundred dollars of each other. The 6th company doubled the other estimates. The catch? This company is composed of a few retired/active firefighters that they run together. They split the payment between themselves, there is no “big boss”. If I went with them I wouldn't be tipping any additional amount since for me this is already more than accounted for in the 100% increase of the estimate. It’s not always black and white. It wouldn’t be “cheap” to not tip in this case. The holier than thou types on here need to relax a little. If you really want to make a difference in peoples lives there are more effective ways than via tipping, but you already know that I’m sure.

That fact that you got 6 estimates is an indication that you probably can't afford a new fence. Six estimates is nuts! And you're trying to figure out how you can get away with not tipping! Did you look for a discount coupon too? You're a piece of work.

You're so busy pinching your pennies you will probably end up with someone who will botch the job or disappear on you.

Good luck!

What a bizarre comment. I can certainly afford it, which is why we were looking for one. If I find 6 reputable companies with great reviews why would I not ask for an estimate, it's not like its time out of my pocket. You sound like you have no idea what you are talking about. Go troll elsewhere please.

That's the point, you don't mind wasting your own time. You have no respect for these people's time. It's money to them, and you are wasting it trying to find a lowest, low price. I'll bet if you tell the next sucker that you've gotten 6 estimates, you won't get 7th. They know your type. On some level you know you can't afford a fence, or you are a cheapskate.

Like I said earlier, you sound like you have no idea what you are talking about. I’m not wasting any time. I don't have to be present, it’s a fence estimate (aka outside). They can either swing by at their convenience or provide it based on the measurements I give them in the email. The whole point of getting an estimate is the compare different companies. None of these companies provides estimates under the assumption that you will be giving them your business. And if you want to receive 3 estimates you should apply to more, because not everyone gets back to you or sometimes it takes them a long time to do so. Common sense helps here. Keep trying to peddle your argument though, it’s quite funny.

If you have 6 estimates from well reviewed companies, why haven't you hired one? Are you still seeking more estimates?

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06/09/2017 12:00

Subject: Do you tip your paint crew?

Anonymous

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Anonymous wrote:I tip well because it pays in good service and good relationships. For example, I tip my mechanics (whose hourly rate is $$$) and the guy that does inspections. I am also polite and friendly to them. I am certain that this approach has saved me a lot of money over the years in repair costs.

People don't realize that they usually pay a penalty for being a crappy customer. Tipping shows appreciation, which the OP did not do.

I don’t understand how. In your experience do people charge you lower rates if you tip them? Do they botch the repair on purpose if you don’t? No legitimate business would do this, not one. I guess it can help if you have trouble distinguishing necessary repairs from added fluff, but if you have a trustworthy mechanic that isn’t a problem whether you tip or not.

Most/many business people charge a premium to customers who are a pain in the a$$. They just don't realize it. Like the PP who thought that the pAinters doubled the price based on her zip code, it was more like based on her attitude. It's like combat pay.

That’s not really true...Even if you are a pain in the a$$, they won’t really know that until after their first experience with you since tipping is something done after the work is complete. I guess if you took your car back a second time and noticed the hourly rate went up... but I’ve never seen that happen. Most shops have a fixed rate and stick to it.

So you just have to find new businesses all the time after all your burned bridges? You so smart.

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06/09/2017 12:05

Subject: Do you tip your paint crew?

Anonymous

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I tip well because it pays in good service and good relationships. For example, I tip my mechanics (whose hourly rate is $$$) and the guy that does inspections. I am also polite and friendly to them. I am certain that this approach has saved me a lot of money over the years in repair costs.

People don't realize that they usually pay a penalty for being a crappy customer. Tipping shows appreciation, which the OP did not do.

I don’t understand how. In your experience do people charge you lower rates if you tip them? Do they botch the repair on purpose if you don’t? No legitimate business would do this, not one. I guess it can help if you have trouble distinguishing necessary repairs from added fluff, but if you have a trustworthy mechanic that isn’t a problem whether you tip or not.

Most/many business people charge a premium to customers who are a pain in the a$$. They just don't realize it. Like the PP who thought that the pAinters doubled the price based on her zip code, it was more like based on her attitude. It's like combat pay.

That’s not really true...Even if you are a pain in the a$$, they won’t really know that until after their first experience with you since tipping is something done after the work is complete. I guess if you took your car back a second time and noticed the hourly rate went up... but I’ve never seen that happen. Most shops have a fixed rate and stick to it.

They know you are a pain in the a$$ from the start. It's more obvious than you think. You will pay more, because they know you going to be more difficult to work for or they really don't want your business at all because they don't like you. It makes total business sense. They know the red flags.

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06/09/2017 12:09

Subject: Do you tip your paint crew?

Anonymous

If you're getting high estimates/prices or no return calls.... they blacklisted you.

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06/09/2017 12:13

Subject: Re:Do you tip your paint crew?

Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just some food for thought. We are having a fence installed and received estimates from 6 companies. 5 companies are within a few hundred dollars of each other. The 6th company doubled the other estimates. The catch? This company is composed of a few retired/active firefighters that they run together. They split the payment between themselves, there is no “big boss”. If I went with them I wouldn't be tipping any additional amount since for me this is already more than accounted for in the 100% increase of the estimate. It’s not always black and white. It wouldn’t be “cheap” to not tip in this case. The holier than thou types on here need to relax a little. If you really want to make a difference in peoples lives there are more effective ways than via tipping, but you already know that I’m sure.

That fact that you got 6 estimates is an indication that you probably can't afford a new fence. Six estimates is nuts! And you're trying to figure out how you can get away with not tipping! Did you look for a discount coupon too? You're a piece of work.

You're so busy pinching your pennies you will probably end up with someone who will botch the job or disappear on you.

Good luck!

What a bizarre comment. I can certainly afford it, which is why we were looking for one. If I find 6 reputable companies with great reviews why would I not ask for an estimate, it's not like its time out of my pocket. You sound like you have no idea what you are talking about. Go troll elsewhere please.

That's the point, you don't mind wasting your own time. You have no respect for these people's time. It's money to them, and you are wasting it trying to find a lowest, low price. I'll bet if you tell the next sucker that you've gotten 6 estimates, you won't get 7th. They know your type. On some level you know you can't afford a fence, or you are a cheapskate.

Like I said earlier, you sound like you have no idea what you are talking about. I’m not wasting any time. I don't have to be present, it’s a fence estimate (aka outside). They can either swing by at their convenience or provide it based on the measurements I give them in the email. The whole point of getting an estimate is the compare different companies. None of these companies provides estimates under the assumption that you will be giving them your business. And if you want to receive 3 estimates you should apply to more, because not everyone gets back to you or sometimes it takes them a long time to do so. Common sense helps here. Keep trying to peddle your argument though, it’s quite funny.

If you have 6 estimates from well reviewed companies, why haven't you hired one? Are you still seeking more estimates?

We had it installed months ago...I was just giving an example of a unique situation. I applied to several extra companies because we needed it installed in <3 weeks and that can be tough. Never hurts to do your homework....unless you are you lol.

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06/09/2017 12:17

Subject: Do you tip your paint crew?

Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I tip well because it pays in good service and good relationships. For example, I tip my mechanics (whose hourly rate is $$$) and the guy that does inspections. I am also polite and friendly to them. I am certain that this approach has saved me a lot of money over the years in repair costs.

People don't realize that they usually pay a penalty for being a crappy customer. Tipping shows appreciation, which the OP did not do.

I don’t understand how. In your experience do people charge you lower rates if you tip them? Do they botch the repair on purpose if you don’t? No legitimate business would do this, not one. I guess it can help if you have trouble distinguishing necessary repairs from added fluff, but if you have a trustworthy mechanic that isn’t a problem whether you tip or not.

Most/many business people charge a premium to customers who are a pain in the a$$. They just don't realize it. Like the PP who thought that the pAinters doubled the price based on her zip code, it was more like based on her attitude. It's like combat pay.

That’s not really true...Even if you are a pain in the a$$, they won’t really know that until after their first experience with you since tipping is something done after the work is complete. I guess if you took your car back a second time and noticed the hourly rate went up... but I’ve never seen that happen. Most shops have a fixed rate and stick to it.

They know you are a pain in the a$$ from the start. It's more obvious than you think. You will pay more, because they know you going to be more difficult to work for or they really don't want your business at all because they don't like you. It makes total business sense. They know the red flags.