Harvard's Black Commencement

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Anonymous wrote:Some universities (particular in CA and TX... similar to the demographcs of young people there) are majority-minority, and soon whites will be a minority number-wise. I guess no one will mind when Whites have their own ceremony then?

The argument that whites will be in the minority is idiotic. Whites are only in the minority if you only consider 2 races: white and non-white. However, as a single race, Caucasian Americans (whites) are and will always be the single largest group at these colleges. You need to check your us vs. them mentality.

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Anonymous wrote:Good for them. I'm AA and attended another Ivy for graduate training, after an HBCU for undergrad. I can see the desire for such a celebration, in addition to the regular ceremony.

Apparently it's mostly for Harvard graduate students at this point, but they're hoping to extend to undergrads in future years.

Why? What if I want to hold a Whites Only graduation ceremony? You can see the desire for that too, right?

I'm sure the Young Republicans have some sort of celebration. Just get creative with the name and you can achieve your intended purpose.

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Anonymous wrote:Have none of you been on an Ivy graduation recently? Why do multicultural events bother you? Do you mind when the frats (which are often extremely racially and economically segregated) have their own graduation events? Is it racist for your (mono-ethnic) family to have an all-white graduation party?

Graduation is a happy time and everyone celebrates any way they want to. Harvard is not the only Ivy to have multicultural graduation events. The largest ones are Asian. There are Lavender and Native American and First Generation and Black and Latino graduations at many schools. Its just a chance for each community to get together and honor each other.

Thank you for being a voice of reason.

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Lots of schools do this. It's a separate celebration in addition to the main graduation, usually put on by the student identity groups (e.g. Black Students Association). Many of these students face challenges in getting through school that their white peers don't. So it's a way to celebrate overcoming those challenges with your similarly-situated peers. Just an extra event to celebrate w your group (among the many graduation events).

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White person here who does not mind a bit. I don't think we had this at my non-Harvard Ivy but I graduated a looong time ago.

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This thread makes me laugh. Some people are always mad when they aren't invited to a party. I went to Harvard and we had an AA graduation party (non-university sponsored) and it was fun. This one isn't any different from what we've been doing for at least the past 30 years. The only difference is that the media picked it up and (given the current environment) figured they could get a few extra clicks.

To the OP, the media thanks you for playing the game.

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Anonymous wrote:Some universities (particular in CA and TX... similar to the demographcs of young people there) are majority-minority, and soon whites will be a minority number-wise. I guess no one will mind when Whites have their own ceremony then?

The argument that whites will be in the minority is idiotic. Whites are only in the minority if you only consider 2 races: white and non-white. However, as a single race, Caucasian Americans (whites) are and will always be the single largest group at these colleges. You need to check your us vs. them mentality.

NP here but you are misinformed. Whites are already a minority at many if not all of the UC colleges. Asians as a group are the majority. Now you could argue that perhaps we should parse Chinese from Filipino and so on but regardless they are the majority. It should be pointed out that this is only the case because UC colleges are race blind in their admissions. I hop you feel a but silly saying that whites will always be the largest group at these colleges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of schools do this. It's a separate celebration in addition to the main graduation, usually put on by the student identity groups (e.g. Black Students Association). Many of these students face challenges in getting through school that their white peers don't. So it's a way to celebrate overcoming those challenges with your similarly-situated peers. Just an extra event to celebrate w your group (among the many graduation events).

Be careful with that statement. Every student can face challenges getting through school and looking at their skin color isn't an indication. There are black students who cruise through college with no problems and white students who struggle. The celebration isn't a reward for the struggle, its a celebration of the accomplishment. It's that simple.

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Anonymous wrote:Some universities (particular in CA and TX... similar to the demographcs of young people there) are majority-minority, and soon whites will be a minority number-wise. I guess no one will mind when Whites have their own ceremony then?

The argument that whites will be in the minority is idiotic. Whites are only in the minority if you only consider 2 races: white and non-white. However, as a single race, Caucasian Americans (whites) are and will always be the single largest group at these colleges. You need to check your us vs. them mentality.

NP here but you are misinformed. Whites are already a minority at many if not all of the UC colleges. Asians as a group are the majority. Now you could argue that perhaps we should parse Chinese from Filipino and so on but regardless they are the majority. It should be pointed out that this is only the case because UC colleges are race blind in their admissions. I hop you feel a but silly saying that whites will always be the largest group at these colleges.

Why would I feel silly? I specifically stated "Caucasian Americans" and you validated my point by suggesting parsing the Asian population into country of origin. So, according to my original statement, Caucasian Americans outnumber students from Japan, China, Korea, The Philippines, etc. when taken separately.

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Anonymous wrote:Some universities (particular in CA and TX... similar to the demographcs of young people there) are majority-minority, and soon whites will be a minority number-wise. I guess no one will mind when Whites have their own ceremony then?

The argument that whites will be in the minority is idiotic. Whites are only in the minority if you only consider 2 races: white and non-white. However, as a single race, Caucasian Americans (whites) are and will always be the single largest group at these colleges. You need to check your us vs. them mentality.

NP here but you are misinformed. Whites are already a minority at many if not all of the UC colleges. Asians as a group are the majority. Now you could argue that perhaps we should parse Chinese from Filipino and so on but regardless they are the majority. It should be pointed out that this is only the case because UC colleges are race blind in their admissions. I hop you feel a but silly saying that whites will always be the largest group at these colleges.

Why would I feel silly? I specifically stated "Caucasian Americans" and you validated my point by suggesting parsing the Asian population into country of origin. So, according to my original statement, Caucasian Americans outnumber students from Japan, China, Korea, The Philippines, etc. when taken separately.

Um...no. Those stats are for asian americans of chinese, korean, etc. descent. Parsing those would be like parsing whites into those of german, irish, italain descent. Now do you feel silly?

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Anonymous wrote:Some universities (particular in CA and TX... similar to the demographcs of young people there) are majority-minority, and soon whites will be a minority number-wise. I guess no one will mind when Whites have their own ceremony then?

The argument that whites will be in the minority is idiotic. Whites are only in the minority if you only consider 2 races: white and non-white. However, as a single race, Caucasian Americans (whites) are and will always be the single largest group at these colleges. You need to check your us vs. them mentality.

NP here but you are misinformed. Whites are already a minority at many if not all of the UC colleges. Asians as a group are the majority. Now you could argue that perhaps we should parse Chinese from Filipino and so on but regardless they are the majority. It should be pointed out that this is only the case because UC colleges are race blind in their admissions. I hop you feel a but silly saying that whites will always be the largest group at these colleges.

Why would I feel silly? I specifically stated "Caucasian Americans" and you validated my point by suggesting parsing the Asian population into country of origin. So, according to my original statement, Caucasian Americans outnumber students from Japan, China, Korea, The Philippines, etc. when taken separately.

Um...no. Those stats are for asian americans of chinese, korean, etc. descent. Parsing those would be like parsing whites into those of german, irish, italain descent. Now do you feel silly?

You're entertaining the thought of being in the minority while knowing you will always have the power. That's quite a privilege.

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Liberals

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Anonymous wrote:Some universities (particular in CA and TX... similar to the demographcs of young people there) are majority-minority, and soon whites will be a minority number-wise. I guess no one will mind when Whites have their own ceremony then?

The argument that whites will be in the minority is idiotic. Whites are only in the minority if you only consider 2 races: white and non-white. However, as a single race, Caucasian Americans (whites) are and will always be the single largest group at these colleges. You need to check your us vs. them mentality.

NP here but you are misinformed. Whites are already a minority at many if not all of the UC colleges. Asians as a group are the majority. Now you could argue that perhaps we should parse Chinese from Filipino and so on but regardless they are the majority. It should be pointed out that this is only the case because UC colleges are race blind in their admissions. I hop you feel a but silly saying that whites will always be the largest group at these colleges.

Why would I feel silly? I specifically stated "Caucasian Americans" and you validated my point by suggesting parsing the Asian population into country of origin. So, according to my original statement, Caucasian Americans outnumber students from Japan, China, Korea, The Philippines, etc. when taken separately.

Um...no. Those stats are for asian americans of chinese, korean, etc. descent. Parsing those would be like parsing whites into those of german, irish, italain descent. Now do you feel silly?

You're entertaining the thought of being in the minority while knowing you will always have the power. That's quite a privilege.

Actually I am a minority. Be careful about your assumptions.

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Anonymous wrote:Some universities (particular in CA and TX... similar to the demographcs of young people there) are majority-minority, and soon whites will be a minority number-wise. I guess no one will mind when Whites have their own ceremony then?

The argument that whites will be in the minority is idiotic. Whites are only in the minority if you only consider 2 races: white and non-white. However, as a single race, Caucasian Americans (whites) are and will always be the single largest group at these colleges. You need to check your us vs. them mentality.

NP here but you are misinformed. Whites are already a minority at many if not all of the UC colleges. Asians as a group are the majority. Now you could argue that perhaps we should parse Chinese from Filipino and so on but regardless they are the majority. It should be pointed out that this is only the case because UC colleges are race blind in their admissions. I hop you feel a but silly saying that whites will always be the largest group at these colleges.

Why would I feel silly? I specifically stated "Caucasian Americans" and you validated my point by suggesting parsing the Asian population into country of origin. So, according to my original statement, Caucasian Americans outnumber students from Japan, China, Korea, The Philippines, etc. when taken separately.

Um...no. Those stats are for asian americans of chinese, korean, etc. descent. Parsing those would be like parsing whites into those of german, irish, italain descent. Now do you feel silly?

You're entertaining the thought of being in the minority while knowing you will always have the power. That's quite a privilege.

Actually I am a minority. Be careful about your assumptions.

Indian?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have none of you been on an Ivy graduation recently? Why do multicultural events bother you? Do you mind when the frats (which are often extremely racially and economically segregated) have their own graduation events? Is it racist for your (mono-ethnic) family to have an all-white graduation party?

Graduation is a happy time and everyone celebrates any way they want to. Harvard is not the only Ivy to have multicultural graduation events. The largest ones are Asian. There are Lavender and Native American and First Generation and Black and Latino graduations at many schools. Its just a chance for each community to get together and honor each other.

Thank you for being a voice of reason.

This times a million. I find it interesting, having attended an SEC school whose white greek system was fairly racist and exclusionary, I find it funny to see the uproar.