America's Most Challenging High Schools

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Anonymous wrote:And where did your kids with a million APs land?

A full ride undergrad and MIT phd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And where did your kids with a million APs land?

Mostly Ivy schools or other selective & lucrative STEM programs in competitive schools with full ride. Most students also get at least a year or year and a half worth of college credits - which allows them to do double or triple majors in college, because with just an ordinary course load, in 4 years, they can do multiple majors. It is like a gift that keeps on giving. College admission is not the end all for doing these insane number of APs.

Most magnet kids rake in between 11 - 20 APs. Add the IB requirement of 6 IB (IB limits it to 6 exams only) - and it is easy to have a whole lot of APs and IBs for RM magnet students. This means that the stats of the school also gets majorly skewed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And where did your kids with a million APs land?

Mostly Ivy schools or other selective & lucrative STEM programs in competitive schools with full ride. Most students also get at least a year or year and a half worth of college credits - which allows them to do double or triple majors in college, because with just an ordinary course load, in 4 years, they can do multiple majors. It is like a gift that keeps on giving. College admission is not the end all for doing these insane number of APs.

Most magnet kids rake in between 11 - 20 APs. Add the IB requirement of 6 IB (IB limits it to 6 exams only) - and it is easy to have a whole lot of APs and IBs for RM magnet students. This means that the stats of the school also gets majorly skewed.

^^I am the RMIB grad parent and wrote the comment above. I want to make clear that a lot of these student accomplishments are not because of the excellence of the school - be it the magnet or W schools or privates. Most of these accomplishments are because these students had a long term strategy, planning and time management and they were also working towards them on the weekend, over summer breaks, much before they ever came to high school.

For any bright student in any school, if there is a support system outside of school and these clear goals and objectives - these are not impossible to achieve results. Yes, a lot of strategy and hardwork is required - especially if you are not the uber-rich and a legacy candidate. Most of these students were also excelling in sports, extra-curricular activities, working jobs, internships, lots of SSL hours, community service etc....This does not happen in 4 years. This happens from when the student is in elementary and middle school.

So, whatever methodology Jay Matthews utilizes it will not be accurate or reflect how much or how little the school contributes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And where did your kids with a million APs land?

Mostly Ivy schools or other selective & lucrative STEM programs in competitive schools with full ride. Most students also get at least a year or year and a half worth of college credits - which allows them to do double or triple majors in college, because with just an ordinary course load, in 4 years, they can do multiple majors. It is like a gift that keeps on giving. College admission is not the end all for doing these insane number of APs.

Most magnet kids rake in between 11 - 20 APs. Add the IB requirement of 6 IB (IB limits it to 6 exams only) - and it is easy to have a whole lot of APs and IBs for RM magnet students. This means that the stats of the school also gets majorly skewed.

^^I am the RMIB grad parent and wrote the comment above. I want to make clear that a lot of these student accomplishments are not because of the excellence of the school - be it the magnet or W schools or privates. Most of these accomplishments are because these students had a long term strategy, planning and time management and they were also working towards them on the weekend, over summer breaks, much before they ever came to high school.

For any bright student in any school, if there is a support system outside of school and these clear goals and objectives - these are not impossible to achieve results. Yes, a lot of strategy and hardwork is required - especially if you are not the uber-rich and a legacy candidate. Most of these students were also excelling in sports, extra-curricular activities, working jobs, internships, lots of SSL hours, community service etc....This does not happen in 4 years. This happens from when the student is in elementary and middle school.

So, whatever methodology Jay Matthews utilizes it will not be accurate or reflect how much or how little the school contributes.

This sounds really stupid. I'm getting you ready for college when you're 5!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And where did your kids with a million APs land?

Mostly Ivy schools or other selective & lucrative STEM programs in competitive schools with full ride. Most students also get at least a year or year and a half worth of college credits - which allows them to do double or triple majors in college, because with just an ordinary course load, in 4 years, they can do multiple majors. It is like a gift that keeps on giving. College admission is not the end all for doing these insane number of APs.

Most magnet kids rake in between 11 - 20 APs. Add the IB requirement of 6 IB (IB limits it to 6 exams only) - and it is easy to have a whole lot of APs and IBs for RM magnet students. This means that the stats of the school also gets majorly skewed.

^^I am the RMIB grad parent and wrote the comment above. I want to make clear that a lot of these student accomplishments are not because of the excellence of the school - be it the magnet or W schools or privates. Most of these accomplishments are because these students had a long term strategy, planning and time management and they were also working towards them on the weekend, over summer breaks, much before they ever came to high school.

For any bright student in any school, if there is a support system outside of school and these clear goals and objectives - these are not impossible to achieve results. Yes, a lot of strategy and hardwork is required - especially if you are not the uber-rich and a legacy candidate. Most of these students were also excelling in sports, extra-curricular activities, working jobs, internships, lots of SSL hours, community service etc....This does not happen in 4 years. This happens from when the student is in elementary and middle school.

So, whatever methodology Jay Matthews utilizes it will not be accurate or reflect how much or how little the school contributes.

This sounds really stupid. I'm getting you ready for college when you're 5!

I am sure to any ignorant person it sounds stupid. Many of these kids start doing extracurricular like music, sports, scouts, martial arts, robotics, programming etc quite young. They are honing their academic skills during summer break and getting academic acceleration & enrichment outside of the school day. This is a function of educated and high SES households mostly. The most challenging high schools (like TJ) have also the most educated parents and they are willing to put the time, money and effort for their kids academic achievement from when they are in ES and MS.

But please you do you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And where did your kids with a million APs land?

Mostly Ivy schools or other selective & lucrative STEM programs in competitive schools with full ride. Most students also get at least a year or year and a half worth of college credits - which allows them to do double or triple majors in college, because with just an ordinary course load, in 4 years, they can do multiple majors. It is like a gift that keeps on giving. College admission is not the end all for doing these insane number of APs.

Most magnet kids rake in between 11 - 20 APs. Add the IB requirement of 6 IB (IB limits it to 6 exams only) - and it is easy to have a whole lot of APs and IBs for RM magnet students. This means that the stats of the school also gets majorly skewed.

^^I am the RMIB grad parent and wrote the comment above. I want to make clear that a lot of these student accomplishments are not because of the excellence of the school - be it the magnet or W schools or privates. Most of these accomplishments are because these students had a long term strategy, planning and time management and they were also working towards them on the weekend, over summer breaks, much before they ever came to high school.

For any bright student in any school, if there is a support system outside of school and these clear goals and objectives - these are not impossible to achieve results. Yes, a lot of strategy and hardwork is required - especially if you are not the uber-rich and a legacy candidate. Most of these students were also excelling in sports, extra-curricular activities, working jobs, internships, lots of SSL hours, community service etc....This does not happen in 4 years. This happens from when the student is in elementary and middle school.

So, whatever methodology Jay Matthews utilizes it will not be accurate or reflect how much or how little the school contributes.

This sounds really stupid. I'm getting you ready for college when you're 5!

I am sure to any ignorant person it sounds stupid. Many of these kids start doing extracurricular like music, sports, scouts, martial arts, robotics, programming etc quite young. They are honing their academic skills during summer break and getting academic acceleration & enrichment outside of the school day. This is a function of educated and high SES households mostly. The most challenging high schools (like TJ) have also the most educated parents and they are willing to put the time, money and effort for their kids academic achievement from when they are in ES and MS.

But please you do you.

Such memorable and fun childhoods they are all having.

They are also committing suicide at an unprecedented rate.

Think we will continue to do us.

[Anonymous]

Such memorable and fun childhoods they are all having.

They are also committing suicide at an unprecedented rate.

Think we will continue to do us.

np - not your concern right? raise your kids anyway you want to, let others raise their way. suicides can happen any where - always have, always will.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And where did your kids with a million APs land?

Mostly Ivy schools or other selective & lucrative STEM programs in competitive schools with full ride. Most students also get at least a year or year and a half worth of college credits - which allows them to do double or triple majors in college, because with just an ordinary course load, in 4 years, they can do multiple majors. It is like a gift that keeps on giving. College admission is not the end all for doing these insane number of APs.

Most magnet kids rake in between 11 - 20 APs. Add the IB requirement of 6 IB (IB limits it to 6 exams only) - and it is easy to have a whole lot of APs and IBs for RM magnet students. This means that the stats of the school also gets majorly skewed.

^^I am the RMIB grad parent and wrote the comment above. I want to make clear that a lot of these student accomplishments are not because of the excellence of the school - be it the magnet or W schools or privates. Most of these accomplishments are because these students had a long term strategy, planning and time management and they were also working towards them on the weekend, over summer breaks, much before they ever came to high school.

For any bright student in any school, if there is a support system outside of school and these clear goals and objectives - these are not impossible to achieve results. Yes, a lot of strategy and hardwork is required - especially if you are not the uber-rich and a legacy candidate. Most of these students were also excelling in sports, extra-curricular activities, working jobs, internships, lots of SSL hours, community service etc....This does not happen in 4 years. This happens from when the student is in elementary and middle school.

So, whatever methodology Jay Matthews utilizes it will not be accurate or reflect how much or how little the school contributes.

This sounds really stupid. I'm getting you ready for college when you're 5!

I am sure to any ignorant person it sounds stupid. Many of these kids start doing extracurricular like music, sports, scouts, martial arts, robotics, programming etc quite young. They are honing their academic skills during summer break and getting academic acceleration & enrichment outside of the school day. This is a function of educated and high SES households mostly. The most challenging high schools (like TJ) have also the most educated parents and they are willing to put the time, money and effort for their kids academic achievement from when they are in ES and MS.

But please you do you.

Such memorable and fun childhoods they are all having.

They are also committing suicide at an unprecedented rate.

Think we will continue to do us.

Suidice? I do not think that these kids have the 13 reasons why. You should watch this netflix series. It may save someone you know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I am sure to any ignorant person it sounds stupid. Many of these kids start doing extracurricular like music, sports, scouts, martial arts, robotics, programming etc quite young. They are honing their academic skills during summer break and getting academic acceleration & enrichment outside of the school day. This is a function of educated and high SES households mostly. The most challenging high schools (like TJ) have also the most educated parents and they are willing to put the time, money and effort for their kids academic achievement from when they are in ES and MS.

But please you do you.

Kid, you have to do these things now (in first grade, third grade, seventh grade), because they will look good on your college applications and help you get into competitive colleges with funding.

And then after that, what?

I don't know anybody in real life who is raising their children like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am sure to any ignorant person it sounds stupid. Many of these kids start doing extracurricular like music, sports, scouts, martial arts, robotics, programming etc quite young. They are honing their academic skills during summer break and getting academic acceleration & enrichment outside of the school day. This is a function of educated and high SES households mostly. The most challenging high schools (like TJ) have also the most educated parents and they are willing to put the time, money and effort for their kids academic achievement from when they are in ES and MS.

But please you do you.

Kid, you have to do these things now (in first grade, third grade, seventh grade), because they will look good on your college applications and help you get into competitive colleges with funding.

And then after that, what?

I don't know anybody in real life who is raising their children like that.

ok. We certainly move in different circles.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am sure to any ignorant person it sounds stupid. Many of these kids start doing extracurricular like music, sports, scouts, martial arts, robotics, programming etc quite young. They are honing their academic skills during summer break and getting academic acceleration & enrichment outside of the school day. This is a function of educated and high SES households mostly. The most challenging high schools (like TJ) have also the most educated parents and they are willing to put the time, money and effort for their kids academic achievement from when they are in ES and MS.

But please you do you.

Kid, you have to do these things now (in first grade, third grade, seventh grade), because they will look good on your college applications and help you get into competitive colleges with funding.

And then after that, what?

I don't know anybody in real life who is raising their children like that.

ok. We certainly move in different circles.

It's funny how people with slacker kids bend over backwards to tell you how happy their kids are. The suggestion, of course, is that smart super ambitious kids are miserable all day. Oh, and their kids have the best social skills too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am sure to any ignorant person it sounds stupid. Many of these kids start doing extracurricular like music, sports, scouts, martial arts, robotics, programming etc quite young. They are honing their academic skills during summer break and getting academic acceleration & enrichment outside of the school day. This is a function of educated and high SES households mostly. The most challenging high schools (like TJ) have also the most educated parents and they are willing to put the time, money and effort for their kids academic achievement from when they are in ES and MS.

But please you do you.

Kid, you have to do these things now (in first grade, third grade, seventh grade), because they will look good on your college applications and help you get into competitive colleges with funding.

And then after that, what?

I don't know anybody in real life who is raising their children like that.

ok. We certainly move in different circles.

It's funny how people with slacker kids bend over backwards to tell you how happy their kids are. The suggestion, of course, is that smart super ambitious kids are miserable all day. Oh, and their kids have the best social skills too.

I think that there's a whole lot of room between "slacker kids" -- which means what, exactly, when you're talking about a five-year-old or ten-year-old? -- and the idea that a child should do things not as ends in themselves (for example, the child enjoys them, or the child acquires useful skills), but as means to the end of getting into college. Life is long, and success and happiness are not synonyms.

[Anonymous]

Most 5 year olds in our circle are doing soccer, swimming or something like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And where did your kids with a million APs land?

Mostly Ivy schools or other selective & lucrative STEM programs in competitive schools with full ride. Most students also get at least a year or year and a half worth of college credits - which allows them to do double or triple majors in college, because with just an ordinary course load, in 4 years, they can do multiple majors. It is like a gift that keeps on giving. College admission is not the end all for doing these insane number of APs.

Most magnet kids rake in between 11 - 20 APs. Add the IB requirement of 6 IB (IB limits it to 6 exams only) - and it is easy to have a whole lot of APs and IBs for RM magnet students. This means that the stats of the school also gets majorly skewed.

^^I am the RMIB grad parent and wrote the comment above. I want to make clear that a lot of these student accomplishments are not because of the excellence of the school - be it the magnet or W schools or privates. Most of these accomplishments are because these students had a long term strategy, planning and time management and they were also working towards them on the weekend, over summer breaks, much before they ever came to high school.

For any bright student in any school, if there is a support system outside of school and these clear goals and objectives - these are not impossible to achieve results. Yes, a lot of strategy and hardwork is required - especially if you are not the uber-rich and a legacy candidate. Most of these students were also excelling in sports, extra-curricular activities, working jobs, internships, lots of SSL hours, community service etc....This does not happen in 4 years. This happens from when the student is in elementary and middle school.

So, whatever methodology Jay Matthews utilizes it will not be accurate or reflect how much or how little the school contributes.

Completely agree!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And where did your kids with a million APs land?

Mostly Ivy schools or other selective & lucrative STEM programs in competitive schools with full ride. Most students also get at least a year or year and a half worth of college credits - which allows them to do double or triple majors in college, because with just an ordinary course load, in 4 years, they can do multiple majors. It is like a gift that keeps on giving. College admission is not the end all for doing these insane number of APs.

Most magnet kids rake in between 11 - 20 APs. Add the IB requirement of 6 IB (IB limits it to 6 exams only) - and it is easy to have a whole lot of APs and IBs for RM magnet students. This means that the stats of the school also gets majorly skewed.

^^I am the RMIB grad parent and wrote the comment above. I want to make clear that a lot of these student accomplishments are not because of the excellence of the school - be it the magnet or W schools or privates. Most of these accomplishments are because these students had a long term strategy, planning and time management and they were also working towards them on the weekend, over summer breaks, much before they ever came to high school.

For any bright student in any school, if there is a support system outside of school and these clear goals and objectives - these are not impossible to achieve results. Yes, a lot of strategy and hardwork is required - especially if you are not the uber-rich and a legacy candidate. Most of these students were also excelling in sports, extra-curricular activities, working jobs, internships, lots of SSL hours, community service etc....This does not happen in 4 years. This happens from when the student is in elementary and middle school.

So, whatever methodology Jay Matthews utilizes it will not be accurate or reflect how much or how little the school contributes.

This sounds really stupid. I'm getting you ready for college when you're 5!

I am sure to any ignorant person it sounds stupid. Many of these kids start doing extracurricular like music, sports, scouts, martial arts, robotics, programming etc quite young. They are honing their academic skills during summer break and getting academic acceleration & enrichment outside of the school day. This is a function of educated and high SES households mostly. The most challenging high schools (like TJ) have also the most educated parents and they are willing to put the time, money and effort for their kids academic achievement from when they are in ES and MS.

But please you do you.

Wow this is idiotic. My 7 year old is toooootttallly learning JAVA programming!