America's Most Challenging High Schools

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The absolute smartest handful of kids are at Blair. Smarter than any at TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:The absolute smartest handful of kids are at Blair. Smarter than any at TJ.

Says who?

And, so what?

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Anonymous wrote:The absolute smartest handful of kids are at Blair. Smarter than any at TJ.

Frog in a well...

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Anonymous wrote:Sherwood fared better than Blair as well as neighboring Blake and Magruder.

Because it's about the percentage of kids taking AP level classes. How many ESOL students are there at Sherwood?

It has an ESOL program / not cereain of #.

That was the trade off for opting out of the NEC.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a stupid list. If you have lots of minorities with average sats the rating go up. But if we have whites and asians with high scores the ratings go down. This should really be called the mentally challenged ratings

It has absolutely nothing to do with SATs. So maybe at least read it first before you call it stupid.

lol... that ^PP obviously lives in a W cluster and can't deal with the fact that more kids in a non W school challenge themselves more than in her cluster. Obviously, she lives and breathes test scores.

NP, but I think she just meant "stats" instead of "sats." And test scores are a lot of what determines lists and rankings like this. Calm down.

Yes, but this "ranking" is about how "challenging" the school is (ie, how many kids take AP/IB), not about the scores.

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Anonymous wrote:The absolute smartest handful of kids are at Blair. Smarter than any at TJ.

I think RM magnet kids are much better. Someone posted IB magnet profile before and it was mind-boggling.

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I'm correcting the poster who thinks this is only about how many kids enroll in college-level courses. The E&E data point in the Challenge Index specifically says it's about the percentage of kids who PASS at least one college level test during their career there. For example, at Blair that is 56%, st Sherwood it is 54%, at BCC it's 71%, at Einstein it's 50%. This is not simply about packing AP classes with kids. Thy have to score a 3 or higher.

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Anonymous wrote:The absolute smartest handful of kids are at Blair. Smarter than any at TJ.

inferiority complex much?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm correcting the poster who thinks this is only about how many kids enroll in college-level courses. The E&E data point in the Challenge Index specifically says it's about the percentage of kids who PASS at least one college level test during their career there. For example, at Blair that is 56%, st Sherwood it is 54%, at BCC it's 71%, at Einstein it's 50%. This is not simply about packing AP classes with kids. Thy have to score a 3 or higher.

And now I'm correcting you. The E&E data is a metric provided by the College Board for context, but it is not used in calculating the Challenge Index rankings.

This explains it:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/how-the-americas-most-challenging-high-schools-list-works/2017/05/03/e6483160-2919-11e7-a616-d7c8a68c1a66_story.html?utm_term=.636860ae88c4

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Anonymous wrote:The absolute smartest handful of kids are at Blair. Smarter than any at TJ.

inferiority complex much?

It's common knowledge among the genius class.

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Anonymous wrote:Once again Blair sucks

I disagree. Look at the methodology. It's dividing # of IB/AP tests by # of students. Blair is not a whole school magnet, and Blair has a very high FARMS rate. This methodology doesn't even look at FARMS rate. Not a Blair parent, btw.

True. RM has a very similar setting in terms of magnet (only smaller/fewer kids). RM ranked pretty high. That means RM general population kids outperform Blair non-magnet kids or RM magnet kids out perform Blair magnet kids or both.

RM has the Magnet IB program. An overwhelming majority of RMIB magnet kids take the AP exams as well as the IB exams. You heard it right. These kids take all the regular AP exams, then they take all the IB exams for the IB diploma requirement (insane rate of 98% of RMIB kids get the fill diploma - the highest %age in the world), then they take the AP exams for all the corresponding IB exams. Very few come out of that program with less than 10-12 AP and IB. This could very well skew the stats for the entire school.
- RMIB alum parent.

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Anonymous wrote:The absolute smartest handful of kids are at Blair. Smarter than any at TJ.

inferiority complex much?

It's common knowledge among the genius class.

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My RMIB graduate took 11 APs and 6 IBs. 17 in all. Which means that for every student like him, there could be 2 students in the non-IB population who did not take any ap or ib and they would still average out for more than 5 ap/ib each. There are also many non-ib candidates in RMIB that are aiming for 8 or more aps. This skews the stats completely. We need to compare like with like. And that can never be.

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Anonymous wrote:Once again Blair sucks

I disagree. Look at the methodology. It's dividing # of IB/AP tests by # of students. Blair is not a whole school magnet, and Blair has a very high FARMS rate. This methodology doesn't even look at FARMS rate. Not a Blair parent, btw.

True. RM has a very similar setting in terms of magnet (only smaller/fewer kids). RM ranked pretty high. That means RM general population kids outperform Blair non-magnet kids or RM magnet kids out perform Blair magnet kids or both.

RM has the Magnet IB program. An overwhelming majority of RMIB magnet kids take the AP exams as well as the IB exams. You heard it right. These kids take all the regular AP exams, then they take all the IB exams for the IB diploma requirement (insane rate of 98% of RMIB kids get the fill diploma - the highest %age in the world), then they take the AP exams for all the corresponding IB exams. Very few come out of that program with less than 10-12 AP and IB. This could very well skew the stats for the entire school.
- RMIB alum parent.

+1 This is true. DC graduated with 15 APs and 6 IBs. AP exams were much easier per DC.

- another RMIB alum parent

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And where did your kids with a million APs land?