Being paid less than my team member who reports to me

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meet in person instead of sending an email. In the meeting explain why you feel you deserve a higher salary. Rule number 1 of salary negotiations is not to compare yourself to someone else because that gets you nowhere (essentially you sound petulant).

Seriously you have to justify your value and why you are worth more to the company. Obviously your subordinate did that.

[Anonymous]

Go on, girl! You should definitely ask for more, and go elsewhere if you dont get it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Before you send that email you might want to see if he has more education or experience than you. Just because he reports to you doesn't mean that you are more qualified - could be that he turned down the Lead position that you accepted

what a joke!! she's the lead and should be paid accordingly -- more than her reports. If they made a mistake and overpaid him, that's their problem.

Except it isn't. They aren't obligated to fix anything. The problem is wholly hers. And if they don't fix it, what she gonna do? Quit? She's negotiating from a point of relatively poor leverage. "It isn't fair" doesn't exactly do wonders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Before you send that email you might want to see if he has more education or experience than you. Just because he reports to you doesn't mean that you are more qualified - could be that he turned down the Lead position that you accepted

what a joke!! she's the lead and should be paid accordingly -- more than her reports. If they made a mistake and overpaid him, that's their problem.

Except it isn't. They aren't obligated to fix anything. The problem is wholly hers. And if they don't fix it, what she gonna do? Quit? She's negotiating from a point of relatively poor leverage. "It isn't fair" doesn't exactly do wonders.

Any reasonable manager or HR department would try to close the gap as much as possible. If not yes, she will find another job. Surprised you don't get that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meet in person instead of sending an email. In the meeting explain why you feel you deserve a higher salary. Rule number 1 of salary negotiations is not to compare yourself to someone else because that gets you nowhere (essentially you sound petulant).

If that's the rule, how do you prove you were discriminated against because you're a woman or a minority or both?

Stupid rule.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Before you send that email you might want to see if he has more education or experience than you. Just because he reports to you doesn't mean that you are more qualified - could be that he turned down the Lead position that you accepted

what a joke!! she's the lead and should be paid accordingly -- more than her reports. If they made a mistake and overpaid him, that's their problem.

Except it isn't. They aren't obligated to fix anything. The problem is wholly hers. And if they don't fix it, what she gonna do? Quit? She's negotiating from a point of relatively poor leverage. "It isn't fair" doesn't exactly do wonders.

Any reasonable manager or HR department would try to close the gap as much as possible. If not yes, she will find another job. Surprised you don't get that.

+1000

Interesting that so many are trying to fear monger OP into shutting up and taking it. This is exactly how the wage gap happens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meet in person instead of sending an email. In the meeting explain why you feel you deserve a higher salary. Rule number 1 of salary negotiations is not to compare yourself to someone else because that gets you nowhere (essentially you sound petulant).

+1

I'm surprised it took 3 pages before someone made this very legimate point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Meet in person instead of sending an email. In the meeting explain why you feel you deserve a higher salary. Rule number 1 of salary negotiations is not to compare yourself to someone else because that gets you nowhere (essentially you sound petulant).

+1

I'm surprised it took 3 pages before someone made this very legimate point.

In this case, I think comparing her to someone else is extremely important and crucial to the negotiations, and definitely should be brought up. I also think documenting this and having evidence of the request will work to OP's advantage

[Anonymous]

Get it girl. Fight the good fight.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you educated the same?

No - Im much more highly educated.

How about age? If he is significantly older than you, he may have gotten a higher salary from annual raises and job changes, and he negotiated a higher starting salary for his position based on his prior earning history.

I've had older staff reporting to me that made more money than me because they had been in the industry 10-15 years longer than I had and had that much more earning history than I did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you educated the same?

No - Im much more highly educated.

How about age? If he is significantly older than you, he may have gotten a higher salary from annual raises and job changes, and he negotiated a higher starting salary for his position based on his prior earning history.

I've had older staff reporting to me that made more money than me because they had been in the industry 10-15 years longer than I had and had that much more earning history than I did.

Op has already said she has more experience as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you educated the same?

No - Im much more highly educated.

How about age? If he is significantly older than you, he may have gotten a higher salary from annual raises and job changes, and he negotiated a higher starting salary for his position based on his prior earning history.

I've had older staff reporting to me that made more money than me because they had been in the industry 10-15 years longer than I had and had that much more earning history than I did.

Op has already said she has more experience as well.

Op has an axe to grind though. Clearly isn't looking for any justifiable explanation - which could be as simple as the person negotiated strongly coming in, has had some significant wins or otherwise is particularly strong in some dimension that the company values. Perhaps that persons experience, while comparable in years, perhaps comes from that of a competitor and therefore has some incremental value. Just because you are senior to someone doesn't mean you are categorically more valuable.

I think op has a reasonable concern around salary compression, but "I'm older" isn't especially compelling.

[Anonymous]

Op is also not considering the possible alternative reality: the one person who is paid more than her is a total anomaly in the firm: their salary is outsized relative to their role, and OPs salary is, simply put, appropriate.

In fact that's likely the case.

[Anonymous]

Y'all are about to get OP fired / forced to resign. OP, you better not go with the email approach you mentioned. You need to start a verbal dialogue, and your reason has to be more than I deserve $Z because Y earns that amount. Just like another PP said, you need to justify your worth and value to the company and you better have a damn good reason why they should up your salary. As another PP said, that employee earning more could very well be an anomaly - please also do some more research before starting this convo.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Before you send that email you might want to see if he has more education or experience than you. Just because he reports to you doesn't mean that you are more qualified - could be that he turned down the Lead position that you accepted

what a joke!! she's the lead and should be paid accordingly -- more than her reports. If they made a mistake and overpaid him, that's their problem.

Spoken like someone witt very little (or none) experience in matters like this. It’s not their problem that OP is bad at negotiating salary, it’s her problem. If a company can get away with underpaying someone that doesn’t know better, they of course will. And your basic premise that the “lead” should get paid the most is false anyways.