Yesterday was a rough day for the Democrats

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I suspect in a few years, unless you are in the 1% and not some self-loathing masochist, you will be very sorry Trump is president ... and the smugness will be all gone.

Strongly disagree. He is reaching out to all people to help get us back on the track--the one that Obama drove us off.

And, your perception that NP is smug is off base. The people who voted for Trump are breathing a collective sigh of relief because they truly felt HRC would have taken us further to the left and those voters opposed far left thinking. Get it through you head that these voters aren't being smug, or sore losers like the HRC voters, they just have a different vision of the country than you do. The difference is you see Trump supporters as "bad" people and they see HRC supporters as "wrong." Change your thinking and stop seeing them as bad people and try to understand why they feel the way they do.

[Anonymous]

OP, Who gives a fuck about Kanye. But the bigger question is why that bullshit is a higher priority than the fact that Trump isn't sorting out his massive conflicts of interest. Seriously, he postponed his press announcement on his business so that he could meet with Kanye? What the fuck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I suspect in a few years, unless you are in the 1% and not some self-loathing masochist, you will be very sorry Trump is president ... and the smugness will be all gone.

Strongly disagree. He is reaching out to all people to help get us back on the track--the one that Obama drove us off.

And, your perception that NP is smug is off base. The people who voted for Trump are breathing a collective sigh of relief because they truly felt HRC would have taken us further to the left and those voters opposed far left thinking. Get it through you head that these voters aren't being smug, or sore losers like the HRC voters, they just have a different vision of the country than you do. The difference is you see Trump supporters as "bad" people and they see HRC supporters as "wrong." Change your thinking and stop seeing them as bad people and try to understand why they feel the way they do.

Absolutely NOT. You are delusional. Hillary was not going to drive us off of some kind of socialist cliff. Not even remotely. The Trump voters' belief system is predicated on nonsense like that and it's entirely false. Please STOP making this kind of bullshit up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, Who gives a fuck about Kanye. But the bigger question is why that bullshit is a higher priority than the fact that Trump isn't sorting out his massive conflicts of interest. Seriously, he postponed his press announcement on his business so that he could meet with Kanye? What the fuck.

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No, he postponed his press conference until after the electoral college vote. Once he gets that, he can say a big fuck you to everyone who wants him to divest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yesterday was a rough day for the Democrats?

It would be more accurate to say that every single day since November 9th have been bad days for the Democrats.

And the proof of this is the hysteria we see in the posts by liberals on this forum and in the media who just cannot get over the fact that someone who they thought was a buffoon ended up creaming Hillary!

They are leaderless and adrift as to what they should do other than indulge in futile exercises like the recount effort that they tried to get done using Stein as a surrogate. The recount collapsed and so they have moved to hoping that enough electors will desert Trump ..... of course all we have is one Republican elector who seems to have joined the effort although they publicize it as being ten or more, except that all the other electors are Democrats who were not expected to vote for Trump in any event.

Ok. And this makes you happy because why? Sociopath? Yay, other Americans are sad!

It does not make me happy. It actually mystifies me and I am someone who has voted for Democratic presidential candidates for decades though I did not vote for either Hillary or Trump this go around.

FWIW, the very same thing happened when Reagan was running and Democrats were apoplectic that his victory would be a disaster - quite honesty, I was concerned as well. Reagan was feared as a war monger and a nuclear confrontation with the Soviets was viewed as likely. Democrats also used to deride Reagan as being dumb and an idiot just like they do to Trump today. Guess what ..... we survived fine.

So although I have reservations about some of Trump's policies, I have enough faith in the US to believe that we will come through fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, Who gives a fuck about Kanye. But the bigger question is why that bullshit is a higher priority than the fact that Trump isn't sorting out his massive conflicts of interest. Seriously, he postponed his press announcement on his business so that he could meet with Kanye? What the fuck.

No, he postponed it just to piss YOU off, it worked, goodness he's a genius! The conflict of interest stuff is being sorted out, obviously it is massive and these things take time. The law is the law, Trump will respect the law and things will be in play by the inauguration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I suspect in a few years, unless you are in the 1% and not some self-loathing masochist, you will be very sorry Trump is president ... and the smugness will be all gone.

Strongly disagree. He is reaching out to all people to help get us back on the track--the one that Obama drove us off.

And, your perception that NP is smug is off base. The people who voted for Trump are breathing a collective sigh of relief because they truly felt HRC would have taken us further to the left and those voters opposed far left thinking. Get it through you head that these voters aren't being smug, or sore losers like the HRC voters, they just have a different vision of the country than you do. The difference is you see Trump supporters as "bad" people and they see HRC supporters as "wrong." Change your thinking and stop seeing them as bad people and try to understand why they feel the way they do.

Absolutely NOT. You are delusional. Hillary was not going to drive us off of some kind of socialist cliff. Not even remotely. The Trump voters' belief system is predicated on nonsense like that and it's entirely false. Please STOP making this kind of bullshit up.

Yes she was, she and Saul, her hero were taking us straight down that road. The sooner you see the truth the sooner you can move on. Trump voters are right, you are wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yesterday was a rough day for the Democrats?

It would be more accurate to say that every single day since November 9th have been bad days for the Democrats.

And the proof of this is the hysteria we see in the posts by liberals on this forum and in the media who just cannot get over the fact that someone who they thought was a buffoon ended up creaming Hillary!

They are leaderless and adrift as to what they should do other than indulge in futile exercises like the recount effort that they tried to get done using Stein as a surrogate. The recount collapsed and so they have moved to hoping that enough electors will desert Trump ..... of course all we have is one Republican elector who seems to have joined the effort although they publicize it as being ten or more, except that all the other electors are Democrats who were not expected to vote for Trump in any event.

Ok. And this makes you happy because why? Sociopath? Yay, other Americans are sad!

It does not make me happy. It actually mystifies me and I am someone who has voted for Democratic presidential candidates for decades though I did not vote for either Hillary or Trump this go around.

FWIW, the very same thing happened when Reagan was running and Democrats were apoplectic that his victory would be a disaster - quite honesty, I was concerned as well. Reagan was feared as a war monger and a nuclear confrontation with the Soviets was viewed as likely. Democrats also used to deride Reagan as being dumb and an idiot just like they do to Trump today. Guess what ..... we survived fine.

So although I have reservations about some of Trump's policies, I have enough faith in the US to believe that we will come through fine.

Some people survived, some did quite well and some - particularly the working class - went on a downward spiral from which there's been no recovery.

Republicans who want a repeat of the Reagan glory years forget that it came at the cost of a stable middle class and started the oxidation of the Rust Belt. Or maybe they remember it well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I suspect in a few years, unless you are in the 1% and not some self-loathing masochist, you will be very sorry Trump is president ... and the smugness will be all gone.

Strongly disagree. He is reaching out to all people to help get us back on the track--the one that Obama drove us off.

And, your perception that NP is smug is off base. The people who voted for Trump are breathing a collective sigh of relief because they truly felt HRC would have taken us further to the left and those voters opposed far left thinking. Get it through you head that these voters aren't being smug, or sore losers like the HRC voters, they just have a different vision of the country than you do. The difference is you see Trump supporters as "bad" people and they see HRC supporters as "wrong." Change your thinking and stop seeing them as bad people and try to understand why they feel the way they do.

They voted for a bigot, xenophobic, misogynistic con man (all of these adjectives are supported by the mans own actions). So yes, they are at the very least comfortable with that and in my book, "bad people". Stop characterizing bigotry as a difference of opinion or different vision.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I suspect in a few years, unless you are in the 1% and not some self-loathing masochist, you will be very sorry Trump is president ... and the smugness will be all gone.

Strongly disagree. He is reaching out to all people to help get us back on the track--the one that Obama drove us off.

And, your perception that NP is smug is off base. The people who voted for Trump are breathing a collective sigh of relief because they truly felt HRC would have taken us further to the left and those voters opposed far left thinking. Get it through you head that these voters aren't being smug, or sore losers like the HRC voters, they just have a different vision of the country than you do. The difference is you see Trump supporters as "bad" people and they see HRC supporters as "wrong." Change your thinking and stop seeing them as bad people and try to understand why they feel the way they do.

Absolutely NOT. You are delusional. Hillary was not going to drive us off of some kind of socialist cliff. Not even remotely. The Trump voters' belief system is predicated on nonsense like that and it's entirely false. Please STOP making this kind of bullshit up.

Yes she was, she and Saul, her hero were taking us straight down that road. The sooner you see the truth the sooner you can move on. Trump voters are right, you are wrong.

Absolutely right. Democrats can mock and deny all they want, but everything she has done fits exactly with the method/teachings of the man to whom she devoted her undergraduate thesis:

Saul Alinsky. Link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky

Look - Saul was a community organizer. Hillary was obviously enamored with his ideas or she wouldn't have written an entire thesis on the guy. Follow Hillary's career; follow what she has said over the years. No one believes it's a mere coincidence she acts in accordance with Saul's philosophy.

Consider these 2 rules, and ask yourself if the Clinton campaign practiced this:

“If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. ". (Remember - it was Hillary's people who sent agent provocateurs to Trump rallies).

“The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Remember how Hillary's team tried to bluff in Michigan and over-state their supposed advantage?).



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, Who gives a fuck about Kanye. But the bigger question is why that bullshit is a higher priority than the fact that Trump isn't sorting out his massive conflicts of interest. Seriously, he postponed his press announcement on his business so that he could meet with Kanye? What the fuck.

No, he postponed it just to piss YOU off, it worked, goodness he's a genius! The conflict of interest stuff is being sorted out, obviously it is massive and these things take time. The law is the law, Trump will respect the law and things will be in play by the inauguration.

Hahaha. If you actually believe that, then the joke's on you. It ain't gonna happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I suspect in a few years, unless you are in the 1% and not some self-loathing masochist, you will be very sorry Trump is president ... and the smugness will be all gone.

Strongly disagree. He is reaching out to all people to help get us back on the track--the one that Obama drove us off.

And, your perception that NP is smug is off base. The people who voted for Trump are breathing a collective sigh of relief because they truly felt HRC would have taken us further to the left and those voters opposed far left thinking. Get it through you head that these voters aren't being smug, or sore losers like the HRC voters, they just have a different vision of the country than you do. The difference is you see Trump supporters as "bad" people and they see HRC supporters as "wrong." Change your thinking and stop seeing them as bad people and try to understand why they feel the way they do.

Absolutely NOT. You are delusional. Hillary was not going to drive us off of some kind of socialist cliff. Not even remotely. The Trump voters' belief system is predicated on nonsense like that and it's entirely false. Please STOP making this kind of bullshit up.

Yes she was, she and Saul, her hero were taking us straight down that road. The sooner you see the truth the sooner you can move on. Trump voters are right, you are wrong.

Absolutely right. Democrats can mock and deny all they want, but everything she has done fits exactly with the method/teachings of the man to whom she devoted her undergraduate thesis:

Saul Alinsky. Link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky

Look - Saul was a community organizer. Hillary was obviously enamored with his ideas or she wouldn't have written an entire thesis on the guy. Follow Hillary's career; follow what she has said over the years. No one believes it's a mere coincidence she acts in accordance with Saul's philosophy.

Consider these 2 rules, and ask yourself if the Clinton campaign practiced this:

“If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. ". (Remember - it was Hillary's people who sent agent provocateurs to Trump rallies).

“The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Remember how Hillary's team tried to bluff in Michigan and over-state their supposed advantage?).



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals

You would not conclude that she was "enamored" of his ideas if you read her thesis.

[Anonymous]

Good grief. Trump and his party are waist-deep in shit and you're reaching for Saul Alinsky?

[Anonymous]

The rough week belongs to whoever had to talk to Kanye West days after he left the psych hospital.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The rough week belongs to whoever had to talk to Kanye West days after he left the psych hospital.

I thought that too.