Or maybe none/all of them are wrong. I think of religion as being like the pictures a little child draws of their mother. All of them are "true" in that they are the closest representation a child can make, and drawn to reflect the child's love. But they aren't exactly accurate, unless the mom has arms growing out of her ears, or eyes almost as big as her head. Having an image of God in my mind helps me focus my prayers, but that doesn't mean it's perfectly accurate or give me the right to judge people who use an other image. |
This is a little laughable. Dr. Borg is a very well-known, well-respected Biblical Scholar. Even those who don't necessarily agree with his personal beliefs respect his education and research, especially as related to the authorship of sacred scripture. To dismiss him as a "Christian heretic" removes any credibility you might have had. You may disagree with some of his personal beliefs (although you don't sound like someone particularly well-educated on Biblical history), but his research is well-respected. |
Well I'm pretty sure the Mithras people are wrong, because there's historical evidence that Mithras appeared among the centurions a couple of centuries after Jesus' death. But for the rest, I've read Borg and like many of his arguments. |
Marcus Borg denies the divinity of Christ and denies the physical resurrection of Christ. He also holds that Scripture is not the inspired word of God but is a collection of writings of men trying to make sense of their concept of God. If words have meaning, this is not Christianity. Heresy is definitionally espousing Christianity while at the same time holding views of Christ that are in contradiction to an orthodox understanding of Christ as God. You might think he's an erudite scholar and be convinced of his arguments, but what he espouses is Christian heresy. Why can't we at least have an understanding of what words mean? |
Many devout christians hold beliefs like Borg's. Beliefs can very greatly between religions (e.g., Islam and Christianity) and within a religion (Pentecostalism and mormonism). |
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http://comicvine.gamespot.com/amar-chitra-katha-special/4050-49071/
Jesus Christ (In comic format - produced in India.) |
Really -- sightings of a god? I didn't know historians did that. I thought they were limited to the material world. That is, they could report that Roman Centurions said they saw Mithras, but they couldn't actually report a sighting of a supernatural being. At any rate, the fact that Roman centurions saw Mithras 200 years after Christ doesn't mean Mithras didn't exist as a god long before that in other places. People are still reporting sightings of Jesus - and Mary too. That doesn't mean that Jesus and Mary just started to exist. Everyone knows they been around over 2,000 years. |
You know very well that by "appeared" I meant "the first recorded evidence of this God." And I certainly hope you understand the difference between evidence starting from 60-90 AD for Jesus vs. evidence starting from 200-300AD for Mithras. I suspect you're not really this dense, and you just want to stir the pot. But if Mithras, and Horus with his golden penis, seem like credible sources for the Christian resurrection to you, then whatever floats your boat! |
PS I totally support you telling your chldren all about the golden penis, and that this is why you don't believe the Christian story! |
Oh, poor Groundhog! Are you still pursuing this ridiculous line of thought? |
If you deny Christ is God, or that Christ rose from the dead, you are not a devout Christian, or any kind of Christian whatsoever. You may revere Christ as a great teacher or whatever, but these are foundational beliefs of Christianity. Sure, beliefs vary, but when they deviate over the person/Godhood of Christ is when heresy sets in. Pentecostalism has some practices that are disputable from Biblical instruction, but its view of Christ is orthodox. Mormonism's portrayal of Christ is way beyond Biblical witness and is itself Christian heresy. |
Heresy is always vis-a-vis a line of thought that calls itself orthodoxy because it has established its tenets of belief. If you don't ageee with the orthodoxy, then to that group you might be a heretic, but only to that particular group. |
Thus sayeth the Lord! |
I have never seen the Jesus one, but generally these comics are great fun! |
Mithras is an ancient persian god that roman soldiers picked up on much later. Sort of like the native Hawaians not hearing about Jesus until the 19th century when protestant missionaries introduced Christianity to the indigenous people there. |